Mugello MotoGP testing

awesome times!



I read on gpone that Stoner and Abraham were almost scrapping after a wee coming together on track....

MotoGP Mugello test results:



01- Casey Stoner – Repsol Honda Team – Honda RC212V – 1’47.326

02- Marco Simoncelli – San Carlo Honda Gresini – Honda RC212V – + 0.096

03- Andrea Dovizioso – Repsol Honda Team – Honda RC212V – + 0.735

04- Hector Barbera – Mapfre Aspar Team – Ducati Desmosedici GP11 – + 1.511

05- Karel Abraham – Cardion AB Motoracing – Ducati Desmosedici GP11 – + 1.624

06- Dani Pedrosa – Repsol Honda Team – Honda RC212V – + 1.689

07- Alvaro Bautista – Rizla Suzuki MotoGP – Suzuki GSV-R – + 1.873

08- Randy De Puniet – Pramac Racing Team – Ducati Desmosedici GP11 – + 2.058

09- Hiroshi Aoyama – San Carlo Honda Gresini – Honda RC212V – +2.097

10- Sylvain Guintoli – Pramac Racing Team – Ducati Desmosedici GP11 – + 5.072

11- Mika Kallio – Marc VDS Racing Team – Suter MVDS BMW Moto1 – + 6.342





Moto1 suter 6 seconds off the pace, interesting if they were all on 1000cc what the difference would be.



Iannone also tested for pramac Ducati and posted a 1’52.409

Why weren't Iannone's times published?



The Suter times don't look great, but it is Kallio riding and he's not far behind where Guintoli was. That is interesting.

Why no Yamaha nor official Ducati?

Tom said:

Why weren't Iannone's times published?



The Suter times don't look great, but it is Kallio riding and he's not far behind where Guintoli was. That is interesting.

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Pos----> Rider--------------------------------> Bike------------------> Time

1------> Casey Stoner--------------------> Honda---------------> 1:47.326

2------> Marco Simoncelli----------------> Honda---------------> 1:47.422

3------> Andrea Dovizioso---------------> Honda---------------> 1:48.061

4------> Hector Barbera-----------------> Ducati---------------> 1:48.837

5------> Karel Abraham-------------------> Ducati---------------> 1:48.950

6------> Dani Pedrosa---------------------> Honda---------------> 1:49.015

7------> Alvaro Bautista------------------> Suzuki----------------> 1:49.199

8------> Randy De Puniet---------------> Ducati----------------> 1:49.384

9------> Hiroshi Aoyama-----------------> Honda----------------> 1:49.423

10----> Sylvain Guintoli------------------> Ducati----------------> 1:52.398

11----> Andrea Iannone----------------> Ducati----------------> 1:52.409

12----> Mika Kallio-------------------------> Suter/BMW---------> 1:53.668

Stoner's making friends again.....





http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201107044230/Stoner-Abraham-match-al-Mugello.html

.... i got 5 on Karel!

Talpa said:

Stoner's making friends again.....





http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/201107044230/Stoner-Abraham-match-al-Mugello.html

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He's not going to learn until it ends up costing him.

"Abraham seemed to feel that Stoner deliberately moved over to cause the contact, while Casey lamented the Czech rider's habit of waiting around on track for a tow"

It wouldn't be the first time Casey intentionally used his bike to intimidate and harass another rider after getting pissed, this time he made contact. I wonder if he'll injure himself and another rider or get suspended before he realizes how dangerous his behavior is.

320 Duke tested before Race weekend past - and I recall hearing they and maybe yama will be testing next test window at Bruno or elsewhere.



Fast times above by CS and Hair.



As for the qoute "abraham felt that Stoner deliberately moved over to cause contact" is just his view doesn't mean it is fact on Stoners part - get over it fellas its not a personality contest, far out don't you think some people be it Aliens or could be's over react - yet you all have a comment without any of us knowing the "facts"...were you there ? did you see the incident ? or hear the pit argument ? NO

FTE217 said:

As for the qoute "abraham felt that Stoner deliberately moved over to cause contact" is just his view doesn't mean it is fact on Stoners part - get over it fellas its not a personality contest, far out don't you think some people be it Aliens or could be's over react - yet you all have a comment without any of us knowing the "facts"...were you there ? did you see the incident ? or hear the pit argument ? NO

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With all due respect, i believe u just issued ur opinion. Was it with "facts"? U say Stoner should get over it, get over what? R u formulating an opinion without facts? So u must know the incident was benign?



Lets for a moment believe Karel that Casey 'intentionally' made contact to buzz Karel in hopes of sending a message. That is, Casey intentionally turned into him. To be sure, something dangerous on a hot track. Should Karel drop it? Thats what ur say right? Should we believe him?



Stoner usually gets very upset when riders "balk" him or seek a tow according to him (its documented, right?) So it would be odd for him not to be first to voice disgust (though it looks like Karel wasnt going to wait around for Stoner to wait for a mic to voice his opinion). Now if ur wondering who can judge "intent". Well, Stoner has had no problem accusing other riders of "intentionally" balking him or getting a tow from him. So it will be interesting to hear those who defended Stoner by saying he (Stoner) really didnt 'mean' to say (what was rather clear terms in another incident) to hear their take on Karel's perception of what was "intentional." So on one hand we have Stoner saying for example, Nicky "intentionally" balked him, and now Karel saying Stoner actually made contact "intentionally". (Which i shouldnt hav to explain which is worse). But i will, turning into a rider to make whatever point IS infinitely worse. Now before u write off not knowing facts, let me bring up another interesting 'fact' with video to boot. Stoner tried to interrupt Nicky for at least half a lap after what he thought was a some mild offense (highly debatable, but not in Stoner's mind). So i'd speculate, it seems the 'hand wave' (or seat tap) & for that matter, 'shoulder tap' is no longer enuf for Stoner. If we are to believe the report (not sure what "facts" r in question here, but perhaps Stoners opinion on Nicky were all made up too since it also came from mere media report). I'd b interested to hear what Kropo can get from Karel (body language and his 'interpretation' included...) about the incident. I dont personally know Karel any better than i know Stoner, though i think Stoner has been increasingly involved in these types of incidents. Here is an 'opinion'. From afar Karel seems to b a decent kid without the demostrative intensity of Stoner. Now if Karel felt the incident needing immediate redress, then i'd b interested to know a bit more about why.

hawkdriver said:

He's not going to learn until it ends up costing him.

"Abraham seemed to feel that Stoner deliberately moved over to cause the contact, while Casey lamented the Czech rider's habit of waiting around on track for a tow"

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Yeah but Karel's dad will just pay up the fine.He's willing to foot the whole bill of the racing so I'm sure he expected to pay for Karel's occasional newb mistakes/problems.



On another note though Karel put in some good times, so maybe its what he does to get fired up.

Spoken like the zero credibility member that uve become BM. Or, unlike others, Karel is unwilling to take anybody intentionally trying to ram or buzz him or make contact with him on a hot track. That is if we r to believe Karel. But if we dismiss Karel then we must dismiss Stoner's previous protests too. That would mean ud hav to admit Stoner has lied. At very least overstated and overreacted. That would mean that ud hav to accept some flaw in Stoners on tract antics. R u ready to do that or will u stick to double standard?

Jumkie said:

Spoken like the zero credibility member that uve become BM. Or, unlike others, Karel is unwilling to take anybody intentionally trying to ram or buzz him or make contact with him on a hot track. That is if we r to believe Karel. But if we dismiss Karel then we must dismiss Stoner's previous protests too. That would mean ud hav to admit Stoner has lied. At very least overstated and overreacted. That would mean that ud hav to accept some flaw in Stoners on tract antics. R u ready to do that or will u stick to double standard?

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Spoken like the forum drama queen



I'll make it clear for you buttercup, I care mainly for the riding ...... these sideline bits and bobs mean f'all to me.



I certainly would not base my existence around Pedrosa knocking off Hayden as you did for several wearisome years



Get over it Jumkie or buy a crate of Tissues

Jumkie said:

With all due respect, i believe u just issued ur opinion. Was it with "facts"? U say Stoner should get over it, get over what? R u formulating an opinion without facts? So u must know the incident was benign?

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Jumkie -

no I'm not forming an opinion but questioning the GPone article

Italian run and has Dorna's blessing

Maybe they like to dig it into CS and here is another good opportunity to sell motogp and the tainted "bad boy" CS

Abraham felt to take the matter in his own hands still doesn't mean who is right or wrong

I didn't say Stoner to get over it - but questioning why posters have to jump on the first report about a incident that could be OTT

I said nothing of it being "benign" and I certainly don't condone dangerous intentional racetrack behaviour

As you mention I'd be interested if Kropo's gets the "facts" and posts - it would be a bonus get both sides of the storey



Having read BM's comments I'm in agreeance with - "the sideline bits and bob mean f'all" but I suppose for some here it fills threads/posts till the next race weekend which is fine.

No one seems to get on well with Stoner apart from Lorenzo...and that won't last much longer if Lorenzo keeps beating him.

You'd have to agree Karel deserves the ride being in the 1.48's on the duc and will hopefully be around for a while - so good on him for sticking up for himself. At the end of the day as 1 Australian commentator said on the weekend about Simoncelli's recent episodes "his mom and dad will think he's in the right, whereas the other rider's mum & dad will think they are in the right - that's just the way the world works."

I'll wait until I hear from another source or from the riders preferably.

But I will say this.

1 - What is the point of looking for a tow in a test session?

2 - What is the point of getting even remotely upset with someone looking for a tow in a test session?



If it's true, then ride the bike Casey & stop being a petulant knob. It's become a regular occurrence.

Nino said:

No one seems to get on well with Stoner apart from Lorenzo...and that won't last much longer if Lorenzo keeps beating him.

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Hmmm thats funny ...haven't seen you in the pits.....so how do you know this??????