MotoGP less exciting.

I think its been ok, there has been a few close battles to the end. Catalunya was a brilliant race, and Le Mans in the wet was fairly exciting. I think its good to see a new guy winning... but I get your point, it is a little boring the same guy cruising his way to victory every race.

i love it, i dont really care about the edge of your seat passing and all that, ok it great to watch but the guys out front are riding the rings outta those bikes its not like coz there is noone to challange them they ease off like say at the wkend if stoner eased off so hopkins could catch up and have a battle with him for a few laps and then tare off again just to entertain the fans, that would be stupid, vale tried it a few years back and it didtn pay off, instead stoner kept his head down and rode a perfect race

a battle is always entertaining but im just as happy to watch in awe as the bikes are being rode by some of the best riders in the world

but your right if someone is not interested in motor bikes or motogp they will find it very boring

I'm not among those who think it is boring.

Watching Casey ride that thing into the distance is simply gobsmacking! Watch Brno again......lap after lap out of the last turn Casey is right out on the edge of the rumble strips, bike and rider flexing and fighting to increase the advantage. Watch the other guys and you will realise it is Casey that is making the difference this year.

It's not all about close battles, otherwise we'd all have been talking about 125s as the main attraction for years. Just sit back and enjoy watching what the kid is doing to obliterate the opposition, he is phenominal.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Burky @ Aug 22 2007, 04:58 PM) [snapback]86479[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm not among those who think it is boring.



Two inches from the gravel's edge at an ungodly speed watching the bike protest while the rider has it pinned, willing for more acceleration... uhm, not so boring.

Yes, close racing is wonderful, but if you watch the nuances of the rider working and squeezing every drop out of their bikes on the threshold of grip it is amazing.

Me two, I think this season is as great as last year and the year before (except 2004, imo the greatest ever).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Burky @ Aug 23 2007, 09:58 AM) [snapback]86479[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I'm not among those who think it is boring.

Watching Casey ride that thing into the distance is simply gobsmacking! Watch Brno again......lap after lap out of the last turn Casey is right out on the edge of the rumble strips, bike and rider flexing and fighting to increase the advantage. Watch the other guys and you will realise it is Casey that is making the difference this year.

It's not all about close battles, otherwise we'd all have been talking about 125s as the main attraction for years. Just sit back and enjoy watching what the kid is doing to obliterate the opposition, he is phenominal.



<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 23 2007, 12:22 PM) [snapback]86487[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Two inches from the gravel's edge at an ungodly speed watching the bike protest while the rider has it pinned, willing for more acceleration... uhm, not so boring.

Yes, close racing is wonderful, but if you watch the nuances of the rider working and squeezing every drop out of their bikes on the threshold of grip it is amazing.


My feelings exactly... as per both posts above + 1

I wouldn't say that Casey ran away with the races earlier in the year... In most cases there was someone fairly close behind (usually Vale) but Casey managed to break free in the closing stages. There's been the 3 races where Rossi has been dominant despite his machine & tyre problems, plus of course Dani & Chris having a win each & the wet races mixing things up a bit, dramas with the crappy Hondas not working, the Suzuki's coming on strong, Rossi working his ... of to try to stay competitive with the generally off form Yamaha etc etc... So where is the lack of interest exactly?

Even the last 2 races where Casey has been "dominant" he didn't just disappear into the distance as some are suggesting... in both situations there happened to be a bright blue Suzuki about 1 sec off his ... for more than half the race! It's only as the races have entered the latter stages that Casey has pulled away & he's still usually on the limit which as said above is great to watch!

So I dunno... where close cut & thrust racing IS awesome to watch, it's a bit like comparing an action movie to a mystery/thriller movie. They're both worthy of viewing, just different in their content.

My 2 cents worth anyway... Cheers, M

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Traverser @ Aug 23 2007, 12:34 PM) [snapback]86489[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Me two, I think this season is as great as last year and the year before (except 2004, imo the greatest ever).


Or if you remember the very entertaining year 2000 500cc title chase...

Winners 2000:

South Africa - Garry McCoy
Malaysia - Kenny Roberts Jnr
Japan (suzuka) - Norick Abe
Spain - Kenny Roberts Jnr
France - Alex Criville
Italy - Loris Capirossi
Catalunya - Kenny Roberts Jnr
Assen - Alex Barros
Donington - Valentino Rossi
Germany - Alex Barros
Brno - Max Biaggi
Portugal - Garry McCoy
Valencia - Garry McCoy
Brazil - Valentino Rossi
Japan (motegi) - Kenny Roberts Jnr
Australia - Max Biaggi

If that's not variety I don't know what is

2000 season is one of my personal favorites. Ah, that awesome win by McCoy at Welkom to start the season was spectacular. Seeing the helo shots of that magnificent track and watching the smoke form that revolutionary wheel of McCoy was amazing. I have the season review and watch it every few months to remind me of how competitive that field was. McCoy looked like he was racing on dirt and KRJR was outstanding at Motegi. The Abe win at Suzuka was impressive. And the win by Rossi at Brazil with Barros looking to podium on his home track culminating with the title won by Roberts Jr. was a sight to see.

Most people don't remember much about 2000 because for many their world began with Rossi in 01, but for me 2000 was the most exciting season until 06.

This season is a travesty.

Motogp went to the 800's because the perfomance of the 990's was progressing too quickly. So, down went capacity, down went hp, down went top speed. The tires got stickier and now corner speeds are up the 10 kph they lost in the straight. Six of one, half dozen of the other, except now the racing is boring and Ducati doesn't have the production might to hand half the field blindingly quick bikes so we can see some epic battles.

Making a bike easier to ride doesn't make it safer!!!!!! If you make it easier to ride, the man on top will keep pushing it to the edge of disaster.......that's his job!!!!!! 99 crashes in the premier class last year, 85 so far this year. I guess all these electronics don't work well in the wet or when people collide

On the up side, motorcycling is amazing and I still have the utmost respect for the abilities of the riders in the field. Lets just hope, we don't get anymore social engineering from the dolts who have read Bernie's playbook for fixing competitive motorsports.

Things have to get better from here, it doesn't seem possible it could get less competitive. Even if Ducati dominate again next year, Melandri should offer more competition than Loris has.

22 literes please. Let them get the top speeds back up, so they can melt the tires for a extra 50 meters before they get the tire on its side. That way we don't have to watch this mindless tape to tape sprinting anymore.

Absolutely Phorest, I'm with you on bringing back the 990s. And lets kill traction control. Bring back the days of Gary McCoy. Hell, bring back Gary McCoy just for the hell of it.

the 125 and 250s are close racing most of the time because they all use dunlops and dont have as much electronics.

I agree with the ban of TC

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ThePhorest @ Aug 23 2007, 05:24 AM) [snapback]86505[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
OK, let me clarify. I said "relative" snoozefest. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy the spectacle and seeing those gorgeous bikes out on the track. It's an amazing thing to watch, no matter how you slice it. It's just that the RACING has been boring! Sure, the riders are still gods and they still work the hell out of the bikes, which is great to see. But when they're doing it by themselves it's less exciting. It is becoming like F1 in that you can just about switch off your TV after the first 10 laps. Unless somebody crashes or screws up bigtime, it's essentially over.

Don't you guys remember the past couple seasons?? Those 990s were FLYING and they were CLOSE!! It was absolutely edge of your seat stuff, race in race out. It was like ripped cage fighters engaging in a delicate dance to the finish. The power, the finesse...man, I loved it. This season it's what...guys pegging the throttle half corner and leaving 5 second gaps between everybody by the end of the race.

Maybe I'm turning into an advocate of bringing the 990s back.


i aggree the 990's were savage they should be brought back

the new rules suck and like with any rules we just gotta live with it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Racejumkie @ Aug 23 2007, 02:53 PM) [snapback]86509[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
Absolutely Phorest, I'm with you on bringing back the 990s. And lets kill traction control. Bring back the days of Gary McCoy. Hell, bring back Gary McCoy just for the hell of it.

....... oath mate!!!!!!!

it's hard to believe that anybody thinks the 07 motogp season is exciting racing.

the only race that was close was Catalunya. every other race has been an absolute snooze-fest. it doesn't matter if it's stoner or pedrosa or rossi winning by a mile, watching the top 3 or 4 riders separated by seconds after the starting laps is weak weak weak.

maybe we just need to be patient and let the new bikes settle in for a year. maybe not. maybe electronics and tires are taking the series in a new direction and this is what we have to look forward to, or something even worse.

if so, i'll be giving more attention to WSBK and the 250 GPs. both those series are already more exciting.

i just re-watched the 2001 suzuka race and i gotta tell you, i think we've all slowly forgotten how great the 500 strokers were. over the last few years of the 4 strokes, we've been seeing less and less exciting racing and now here we are, in a season so dull, i actually barely finished watching brno.

in any case, congrats to stoner... it's obvious he's got the title. i've pretty much given up '07 and here's hoping that something happens in '08 (ban TC? i wish, but not likely.... new tire rule? who knows?) to make the racing more fun to watch.

I think the season and the 800's have been great so far. There has been some close racing, first time winners. Stoner has been a real surprise this year,He's been fast and consistent. Olivier Jacque retired and Westy took over his ride mid season. We had a few wild card riders and who would of thought R.L HAYDEN would beat his brother at Laguna?
Boring? NEVER!!!!

Just sit back and enjoy!

I think that they should turn traction control off like before!!
That would be so much better. It would be about rider skill then, not tyres.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(alex29 @ Aug 23 2007, 12:13 AM) [snapback]86531[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
I think the season and the 800's have been great so far. There has been some close racing, first time winners. Stoner has been a real surprise this year,He's been fast and consistent. Olivier Jacque retired and Westy took over his ride mid season. We had a few wild card riders and who would of thought R.L HAYDEN would beat his brother at Laguna?
Boring? NEVER!!!!

Just sit back and enjoy!



can you give us some examples of the close racing that's happened this year? aside from catalunya, nothing comes to mind. even assen, it was obvious rossi was going to finally overtake stoner and once he did, he walked away. nothing close about that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(drumfu @ Aug 23 2007, 05:33 PM) [snapback]86537[/snapback]<div class='quotemain'>
can you give us some examples of the close racing that's happened this year? aside from catalunya, nothing comes to mind. even assen, it was obvious rossi was going to finally overtake stoner and once he did, he walked away. nothing close about that.

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