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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jazkat @ Mar 31 2009, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>true and with reduced time he will probably get 80% of the polesif not more, rossi will need to be on front row cos if he gets caught up in the pack and stoner runs its curtains for his championship.

stoner is best from pole or front row and thats where he is gonna be.
dont worry mate. The yam and the doctor have more. Stoner again showed his hand to soon and it will cost him

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Mar 30 2009, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Not hate here dude....and nothing to be said since the results are speaking for themselves....and by that I mean Mika is impressive and Nicky really needs to adapt and very quickly....
What's up with your new sig man. I like the previous one better. The anarchist was so rebellious and anti-authority.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Mar 31 2009, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What's up with your new sig man. I like the previous one better. The anarchist was so rebellious and anti-authority.
Glad to see you are in better spirits after Sundays showing of your boy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 31 2009, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>dont worry mate. The yam and the doctor have more. Stoner again showed his hand to soon and it will cost him

gee Rog. after several years of him being around now I still don't think you get Stoner ...... his motives are pretty old school really

J4rno gets it:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J4rn0 @ Mar 30 2009, 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>although I think that Casey always goes as fast as he can, that's his nature and also his main strength. He is not a tactical kind of guy.

I don't think he's into Coronation street, Days of our Lives or even Neighbors ..... he's just plain fast and he shows a pretty old school mentality of winning on the track .... I think thats why he has Rossi phased ....... or as Rossi puts it ....... in a different league/championship than everyone else.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>gee Rog. after several years of him being around now I still don't think you get Stoner ...... his motives are pretty old school really

J4rno gets it:


I don't think he's into Coronation street, Days of our Lives or even Neighbors ..... he's just plain fast and he shows a pretty old school mentality of winning on the track .... I think thats why he has Rossi phased ....... or as Rossi puts it ....... in a different league/championship than everyone else.


I never realized acting like a little ..... was "old school"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>..... he's just plain fast and he shows a pretty old school mentality of winning on the track .... I think thats why he has Rossi phased ....... or as Rossi puts it ....... in a different league/championship than everyone else.
Agree with the sentiments that Stoner rarely holds back, disagree that he has Rossi 'phased' (as you put it). Vale will raise the stakes, just as he did in Laguna. You can't metally intimidate Rossi; try to mess with his head and he'll unravel yours for good.

I do however think that the Stoner/Ducati combination is going to be tough to overcome again this year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Mar 31 2009, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> I never realized acting like a little ..... was "old school"
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hahaha google the old Rossi V Biaggi stuff then

but in reality ...... Swantz. Lawson, Rainey ....... they didn't love each other at the time ..... many of them only make amends some years later. Lawson said that if you didn't win you just felt like killing everyone!

Remember Criville and Doohan! .....


get real! ....... its too much a media show/love story these days .... and Rossi is the king of it

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hahaha google the old Rossi V Biaggi stuff then

but in reality ...... Swantz. Lawson, Rainey ....... they didn't love each other at the time ..... many of them only make amends some years later. Lawson said that if you didn't win you just felt like killing everyone!

Remember Criville and Doohan! .....


get real! ....... its too much a media show/love story these days .... and Rossi is the king of it



Well that was kinda my point. Those two went at each other and threw punchs like a lot of "old school" guys did

Casey would rather have a big sob with the camerman and not shake hands like a spoiled little girl, ahhhh poor baby

I guess Rossi is king of alot of things then most notably Motogp style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/.....gif

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 31 2009, 09:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You can't metally intimidate Rossi; try to mess with his head and he'll unravel yours for good.

No ... I think we saw an unraveled Rossi immediately after Laguna 07 ..... not unraveled as in the sense "nuts" .... he certainly seemed "down" about their season after that date ...... but to his credit he seemed to bounce back after his first win in 08 .......

Besides ...... only Elias drives Rossi nuts ... ( biaggi used too ) ....... I don't know why but Elias gets to Rossi

Stoner gets to Rossi ( or more correct to say Rossi doesn't get Stoner he's been so used to guys who he can play mind games with ) ..... but nothing to do with mind games ( probably why Rossi sees him as his most difficult competitor ........ it must be like try to ask a white pointer not to bite your leg off ) ...... you'd just get a blank stare ........ but still have the "teeth" ( stoners speed ) to deal with.


See ..... I just can't get it when some folk whinge about MGP being boring etc. ...... there's so much too it when you have to look.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.....probably why Rossi sees him as his most difficult competitor ........
And that's what exactly Rossi needs to be motivated. He loves (NEEDS) competition to stay focus. Rossi has 8 WC, so he has nothing else to prove.
That's why he 'loves' rivality (just like Biaggi & Sete)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Arrabbiata1 @ Mar 31 2009, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Agree with the sentiments that Stoner rarely holds back, disagree that he has Rossi 'phased' (as you put it). Vale will raise the stakes, just as he did in Laguna. You can't metally intimidate Rossi; try to mess with his head and he'll unravel yours for good.

I do however think that the Stoner/Ducati combination is going to be tough to overcome again this year.
I don't think stoner has really tried to play mind games with rossi; as j4rno says stoner does what he does. I agree that trying to play mind games with rossi would be futile if he did try it. As for the effect of rossi on stoner I think it will depend on stoner's early season results and how confident he is in himself and his bike; he didn't seem very susceptible to mind games or pressure from rossi in 2007.

I am willing to concede the ducati had a bike and/or tyre advantage in 2007 for a rider capable of utilising it, and I don't think rossi or any one including roberts, doohan or a clone of stoner could have beaten stoner that year on a 2007 yamaha on 2007 michelins however well they rode. However not every rider in history would have beaten rossi had they been on the ducati either.

It is also from my admittedly biased perspective fairly clear that stoner had major bike problems post qatar for the early part of last season. Credit to rossi for laguna 2008, but as was said once about a major victory in a war it was a damned close run thing, with both riders making a single error with rossi's not having the same consequences substantially due to his skill; however on both occasions stoner could have elected that they both go down and if he had been sufficiently bloody minded it would have been tactically and strategically sound to do so, and in both cases he could probably have made the racing incident argument . After that he very likely had doubts he could beat rossi in a dogfight which contributed to his falls in the next 2 races, but he was also desperately still trying to win the championship even though he basically needed to win every race to succeed. I preferred to see him go down fighting just as rossi kept trying to win every race in 2007 to the extent that pedrosa was able to finish second in the championship ahead of him.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>gee Rog. after several years of him being around now I still don't think you get Stoner ...... his motives are pretty old school really

J4rno gets it:


I don't think he's into Coronation street, Days of our Lives or even Neighbors ..... he's just plain fast and he shows a pretty old school mentality of winning on the track .... I think thats why he has Rossi phased ....... or as Rossi puts it ....... in a different league/championship than everyone else.
he was fastest in testing last year and showed his hand to soon to win the beamer, look where that got him (rossi 08 champ). you have a short memory berry.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Mar 31 2009, 04:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'> I never realized acting like a little ..... was "old school"
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>No ... I think we saw an unraveled Rossi immediately after Laguna 07 ..... not unraveled as in the sense "nuts" .... he certainly seemed "down" about their season after that date ...... but to his credit he seemed to bounce back after his first win in 08 .......

Besides ...... only Elias drives Rossi nuts ... ( biaggi used too ) ....... I don't know why but Elias gets to Rossi

Stoner gets to Rossi ( or more correct to say Rossi doesn't get Stoner he's been so used to guys who he can play mind games with ) ..... but nothing to do with mind games ( probably why Rossi sees him as his most difficult competitor ........ it must be like try to ask a white pointer not to bite your leg off ) ...... you'd just get a blank stare ........ but still have the "teeth" ( stoners speed ) to deal with.


See ..... I just can't get it when some folk whinge about MGP being boring etc. ...... there's so much too it when you have to look.
biggest load of ..... ive read in a couple of weeks. oh hold on you havnt posted in a couple of weeks

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 31 2009, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>he was fastest in testing last year and showed his hand to soon to win the beamer, look where that got him (rossi 08 champ). you have a short memory berry.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 31 2009, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>biggest load of ..... ive read in a couple of weeks. oh hold on you havnt posted in a couple of weeks



Its great, I really look forward to coming on here when Stoner is doing well just to see what BS the likes of BM and Pinky have to spew. Its the only time these idiots post(Tom a lesson can be learned here )

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (johnny @ Mar 31 2009, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>

Its great, I really look forward to coming on here when Stoner is doing well just to see what BS the likes of BM and Pinky have to spew. Its the only time these idiots post(Tom a lesson can be learned here )

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 31 2009, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>hahaha google the old Rossi V Biaggi stuff then

but in reality ...... Swantz. Lawson, Rainey ....... they didn't love each other at the time ..... many of them only make amends some years later. Lawson said that if you didn't win you just felt like killing everyone!

Remember Criville and Doohan! .....


get real! ....... its too much a media show/love story these days .... and Rossi is the king of it
Hey rog, I thought this was even better... BM reminds us of Rossi & Max elbows and middle fingers flying, then finishes with Rossi being the king of a love-in LOL.

Tom, Berry, Pinky