I imagine that most on this forum would like to see Marquez take Pedrosa's ride tomorrow. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him take Dovi's seat instead making Repsol with two Spaniards (and one Aussie) to improve their odds of having a spanish champion. This line-up would be interesting
I imagine that most on this forum would like to see Marquez take Pedrosa's ride tomorrow. But I wouldn't be surprised to see him take Dovi's seat instead making Repsol with two Spaniards (and one Aussie) to improve their odds of having a spanish champion. This line-up would be interesting
I didn't read anyone saying Dani is a GOAT. Could you point where you read that? I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to call Dani a GOAT since he hasn't even won a title in the premier class.
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You can wish in one hand and .... in the other and I can tell you which hand will get full first.
If Aoyama places ahead of Stoner at the end of this season I will buy you a carton of fine ale.
If he wins the championship make it six.
My word is good.
Aoyama is not that good, he is a hand full of wishes
My prediction is "whoever is leading at the mid year break will win the championship unless there is a group of riders in say a 30 point spread at the front", then FMG it will be interesting.
I personally believe it will be Stoner but who knows?
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I got that wrong in a science test in high school. The question was "What is DNA?"
I was convinced it was the National Dyslexics Association
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Good post, thanks. I don't particularly disagree with any of your points, which seem reasonable to me. The difference seems to be mainly that you are a Dani fan, so where you say that he is misfortunate to be injured so much and that he is in the wrong place at the wrong time, i would say he crashes too much for someone with his physical attributes and that he hasn't made the wisest decisions regarding his career in motogp. I admire Dani's riding, and i think he is a potential motogp world championship but there are several other potential world champions on the grid who have already achieved this feat, naturally i will rate their chances higher. It's one thing to have the potential to realistically achieve something, its something else to have already done it and have the potential to repeat.
On another note, I don't think Lorenzo is as arrogant as you (and others) suggest. He was in 2006, but has matured a lot since then and is one of the wisest riders on the grid.
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Sorry but that's not true. He doesn't crash more than his rivals. The difference is that when he's down he almost always injures himself while other riders just pick the spare bike and carry on with little drama. People have this wrong perception that he is a crasher because they see him always injured.
Without taking anything away from Stoner or Lorenzo (I'm a Stoner fan
I'm just saying that had Pedrosa found himself in such circumstances pheraps he would already been champion by now. And in case you're wondering, yes I think both fully deserved their title. They are both great champions.
Anyway, enough defending Dani. I agree he will have to win a GP title soon if he want people to change their opinion of him (and more importantly to guarantee his ride at Repsol Honda).
Yes, I see this as his great problem. It can't even be said about dani that he just needs to have a better bike or not push it quite so hard so that he has less crashes; he doesn't have many crashes anyway. Everybody comes off the bike some time, in testing or practice if not during races. Unfortunately dani just doesn't bounce well. I think all of his last 4 seasons have been significantly affected by injury, with iirc a hand fracture prior to the season in the one year he wasn't injured during the season.
(EDIT I looked it up. He has had at least one fracture in all of the years 2003, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009 and 2010, and had significant pre-season injuries as well as injuries during the season in 2 of the last 4 years. Even in 2007 he had soft tissue injuries at 2 races which somewhat affected him).
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Sorry but that's not true. He doesn't crash more than his rivals. The difference is that when he's down he almost always injures himself while other riders just pick the spare bike and carry on with little drama. People have this wrong perception that he is a crasher because they see him always injured.
Without taking anything away from Stoner or Lorenzo (I'm a Stoner fan), in their championship years there was a fair amount of luck involved (I already covered this in my previous post). They both found themselves in the right place at the right time. Sure at the end of the day what matters is: Stoner: 1 / Lorenzo: 1 / Pedrosa: 0.
I'm just saying that had Pedrosa found himself in such circumstances pheraps he would already been champion by now. And in case you're wondering, yes I think both fully deserved their title. They are both great champions.
Anyway, enough defending Dani. I agree he will have to win a GP title soon if he want people to change their opinion of him (and more importantly to guarantee his ride at Repsol Honda).
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Haven't read you're previous posts about this, so excuse me if I make you repeat yourself. But how can you claim he has not had his fair share of luck (right place/right time) when he has been in Honda Respol team ever since 2006 and in the role of number 1 rider since 2007 (many would argue even earlier)?
Hmmmmmmm............. just reading through this, I don't see why anyone would question the obvious answers to the poll, or the poll question. I put choices up there, and fair enough if you got pissed off about me not including every rider, ( I'm lazy after all), so you may have room for grievance. But, it's a simple question....
Maybe this is more a question of who can give a simple answer to a simple question without being a simpleton .......
carry on ....
Maybe this is more a question of who can give a simple answer to a simple question without being a simpleton .......
carry on ....
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Many of you are going for Stoner, but personally, I think Rossi has it this year.
Many of you are going for Stoner, but personally, I think Rossi has it this year.
I like several of them and think they all have a chance. Just want to see some good battles.....
For reference, think (125cc) Mugello with 10 riders all within 1 sec at the line. THAT, my friend was a battle!
Don't remember for sure if it was Ueda or Aoki that won.
Ok well perhaps he doesn't crash too much he just has too many big crashes, to be specific he gets hurt too much. Whether or not others crash more than him isn't the point, the errors he makes cost him dearly so it is important that he makes less of them.
Without taking anything away from Stoner or Lorenzo (I'm a Stoner fan), in their championship years there was a fair amount of luck involved (I already covered this in my previous post). They both found themselves in the right place at the right time. Sure at the end of the day what matters is: Stoner: 1 / Lorenzo: 1 / Pedrosa: 0.
I'm just saying that had Pedrosa found himself in such circumstances pheraps he would already been champion by now. And in case you're wondering, yes I think both fully deserved their title. They are both great champions.
Well i disagree that they found themselves in the right place at the right time. I think they worked their way into strong positions and then ensured they maximized the chances they had.
You must be joking.
You mean the same team who produced one of worst bikes on the grid in the 800cc era in 2007 and only recovered during last year's championship?
You mean the same team who had become (until now) the laughing stock in the whole paddock and with the motogp viewers/fans?
Yeah I'm sure he is one of the luckiest riders ever to have joined a team coinciding with the start of the lowest point (in the technical side) in their motogp history... at a time when competition is fiercer than ever (and Yamaha enjoying their most successful period). You can also add today's testing restrictions which hampers whoever is behind (for e.x. last year they could've sort their bike much earlier if that was 2004).
Just because HRC have a glorious past doesn't mean they can't get it wrong. And if you can't acknowledge the fact that Honda hasn't been able to build a title challenger at all in the 800cc era then you must be blind or something. Next you will say that he already had at least one season in GP when he had the luxury of having dominant machinery - like Stoner (2007) and Lorenzo (2010) - but failed to win... what a lucky guy indeed!
Oh he was also so lucky last year when the throttle of his RC212V decided to stuck open at the end of a straight causing a spectacular crash making his collarbone in 3 pieces, at a crucial stage in the champioship and in the busiest period with many races in succession... oh, and get this, and just when Honda found it's best form yet in the 800cc with him starting to win consistently, and he missed it all AGAIN. Now that's luck, huh?
Contrast this with Lorenzo in the same year, no way he would've won as much with Dani fit. There was a moment latter in the season, I think it was the Aragon race, he had a huge moment while trying to pass Simoncelli (I think) the bike slided, he was almost down, he really looked like he was going to fall but somehow managed to hang on like if there was some invisible force lifting the bike. He couldn't have asked for a better season, it was perfect. It looked like he was choosen by God or something.
I have a lot of admiration for dani, particularly for his speed and for his toughness. But to spell it right out he has certainly had bad luck, particularly with the mechanical failure-caused crash last year, but from the litany of injuries I have listed earlier in the thread the conclusion I draw is that his physical stature whether or not it has advantages in some aspects makes him insufficiently robust to win a title, with strong competitors at least one of whom is likely to have an injury-free year in any given year.
Whether honda have pig-headedly ignored him for 5 years and given him dud bikes due to following some abstruse engineering philosophy or whether he +/- puig with control of the direction of development have given honda the wrong steer is similar to the argument concerning stoner at ducati; I guess either is possible but as some have suggested for a company with the resources of honda having more than 1 rider giving input into development may be beneficial, with stoner's ability to ride around problems perhaps at least resulting in no excessive concentration on minor problems.
So you're saying Stoner before signing for Ducati he knew the other manufacturers would build below par (and underpowered) machinery in 2007 and that michelin would be as bad at it transpired, leaving him and Ducati with a big advantage. Likewise, you think Lorenzo didn't have any luck with Pedrosa out of his way in the second half of the season (again: Pedrosa's crash wasn't rider error) just when he started to beat him consistently. Or having his teammate (and his biggest threat that year) sidelined early on (you can say it was pressure from Lorenzo what make him crash but you can't know, and he didn't crash in competition i.e qualifying or race, he crashed in practice where you are not competing for position) making his two only title rivals out of his way leaving him and his dominant bike to do as they pleased. Hmmm ok, let's agree to disagree
