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somewhere in africa there is a kid wearing a 2015 marquez championship jersey. try there.
somewhere in africa there is a kid wearing a 2015 marquez championship jersey. try there.
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It is really funny how you can say tons of nonsense for months (WWF, title race inevitably rigged in Rossi''s favor, the sport is manipulated to makke Rossi win and blah blah) and then, when facts disprove every single things you affirmed, in the most undisputable way, you simply add more blatant nonsense.
Bravo!
This season, especially post Phillip Island has been a case study on Rossi favoritism to a stratospheric level. And the McCarthyist allowances to highjack the narrative without the chastisement of the League has been an expose. Starting with Race Direction's infamous admission they didn't black flag, no not for safety concerns, but so as not to impact the championship. To the gag order upon the entire paddock, cancelation of press conference, to now revelations of Rossi's exclusive ear of Carmelo in 'motorhome confessions'. What facts have disproved my allegations? Everything that transpired in the last couple of weeks seems more like a Rossi-favoritism vindication-binge. MotoVR, RossiTV, etc.
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To the extent that we can really now imagine the magnitude and no holds bar reach of such Machiavellian tactics. If openly he commandeer the official pre-event press conference to accuse other riders of sabotaging his championship to the world where the League responded in such astonishing manner as to insulate him. Where he felt unashamed to make such a brazen revelation to Carmelo on camera no less, further accusing foul play in today's race. And a later invitation to be summoned to his personal motorhome. Every single indictment that has been registered thoughtout the years regarding special status to the detriment of others, from the Saturday night special tires, to the move toward the spec tire and Bridgestone debacle to leaving Yamaha in a fit of rage to only be bailed out from the Ducati failure brokered by Carmelo to this year's change in tire development that improved his advantage in results, culminating with the brazen end of season scandal and the League's gross failure to act impartial, all of it now at the forefront.
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Exactly. Should they have called the championship after Qatar since VR was leading then?
His problem late season was that after fairly taking his chances when things were going his way earlier in the season, late in the season the Honda may have improved, MM started to ride in a tactically smarter fashion which allowed for any continuing limitations of the bike, Pedrosa got fit, and Jorge Lorenzo remained faster early in races and probably overall in the dry unless he wore his tyres out late race, so VR had to hope everything went his way in the late season races given he only had one viable tactic. If he was faster than MM, or could compete with JL early in races, he could have controlled the championship instead of relying on what other riders chose to do.
From my point of view, and possibly from his, MM may well have tried not to interfere with the contenders at PI whilst still winning the race, both early in the race when he obviously had bike problems and later when he didn't put hard passes on either rider. After Rossi basically insulted him and left a slur against his reputation which would possibly blight the rest of his career given how crazy some of Rossi's supporters are as posts on this and other forums in recent weeks have amply demonstrated perhaps he got his back up and decided not to accede to blackmail. If he did, and I do say if, it is difficult to see how the response to attempted blackmail deserves criticism rather than the blackmail, particularly since MM did nothing illegal in either of the last 2 races, and some of the people now complaining were hoping and indeed calling for MM to help Rossi before all this.
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Texas
Lorenzo celebrates ------ yes I know it hurts some bad hey, bad luck
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So funny how Rossi fans are making pic after pic insinuating Lorenzo and Marquez are lovers. It is not because they ...... Rossi, that they are gay. It is just that Rossi confused them by behaving like such a nasty little ..... ... :giggle:
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Not having a go at you here Curve as I know that you do like to piss take a bit but what I find interesting with all the 'gay' themed pics doing the rounds is how many of the same people who criticised the Rossi+Uccio pictures as being 'disgusting' now see these as fine
I will admit that there have been some bloody good ones around though, the two on the bike is very well done but still, there seems a lot of people who go by 'do as I say, not as I do'
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Great comeback. But the most funny act of the day is how the Spanish Armada ...... all the Rossi fans :giggle:
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Naah. That kid will be rocking a VR 2015 #10 shirt. After all, Vale is the people's champion.
But man, I have seen him giving VR a lift when Uccio goes into full on race mode on his 50cc scooter in the pits
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I hate Valencia precisely because it's a one line circuit where you've got very few good overtaking points. Yes you can overtake, but it's difficult to do, and actually it's probably not very well understood by the fans how bad a one-line circuit is for racing, especially in a title decider that requires one rider to make a ton of overtakes.
All most of you guys hung up on the idea of MM not wanting to overtake JL see are the camera angles which take a lot out in terms of seeing the circuit as it really is versus how you want to perceive the circuit. Seeing narrow motorcycles creates an illusion that overtaking can be done everywhere.
Turn 1 is your best overtaking spot, and turn 2 is the second best spot. Everything after that is not great for overtaking, and really takes a much faster machine to attempt and make overtakes stick. Without that, turn 1 and 2 are your best options, and turn 1 greatly depends on how much drive you get out of turn 14. Lorenzo had far better drive out of turn 14 than either of the Honda's did.
Being close to another rider, especially one as great as Lorenzo, is not enough to make an overtake attempt, or one that won't result in losing a second or more if you .... it up. Using all those overtakes by VR as the barometer is particularly poor in measure when one considers that the 22 riders he overtook had no interest in holding him up for very long. It's always easy to overtake at Valencia if someone lets you overtake. But if you are intent on keeping someone behind you, it's very easy to do, especially with comparable machinery.
The trouble with Spain is that they've got a number of one-line circuits. Jarama comes to mind as well.
All most of you guys hung up on the idea of MM not wanting to overtake JL see are the camera angles which take a lot out in terms of seeing the circuit as it really is versus how you want to perceive the circuit. Seeing narrow motorcycles creates an illusion that overtaking can be done everywhere.
Turn 1 is your best overtaking spot, and turn 2 is the second best spot. Everything after that is not great for overtaking, and really takes a much faster machine to attempt and make overtakes stick. Without that, turn 1 and 2 are your best options, and turn 1 greatly depends on how much drive you get out of turn 14. Lorenzo had far better drive out of turn 14 than either of the Honda's did.
Being close to another rider, especially one as great as Lorenzo, is not enough to make an overtake attempt, or one that won't result in losing a second or more if you .... it up. Using all those overtakes by VR as the barometer is particularly poor in measure when one considers that the 22 riders he overtook had no interest in holding him up for very long. It's always easy to overtake at Valencia if someone lets you overtake. But if you are intent on keeping someone behind you, it's very easy to do, especially with comparable machinery.
The trouble with Spain is that they've got a number of one-line circuits. Jarama comes to mind as well.
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NJ
So MM stood to pocket £200,000 if he won the race in Valencia.
Sorry, there is no way he forgoes that kind of bonus just to help Lorenzo win the title.
High level athletes/professionals love money. They have expensive lifestyles and also have to plan for the future when they no longer have this earning potential. In a sport where the riders are one crash away always from suffering a career ending injury, you simply do not leave this money on the table for the sake of sticking it to someone else.
Sorry, there is no way he forgoes that kind of bonus just to help Lorenzo win the title.
High level athletes/professionals love money. They have expensive lifestyles and also have to plan for the future when they no longer have this earning potential. In a sport where the riders are one crash away always from suffering a career ending injury, you simply do not leave this money on the table for the sake of sticking it to someone else.
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