Anyone who thinks its cool to barge into the private space of a rider on the starting grid and start making negative comments about them is indeed a .......
Anyone who thinks its cool to barge into the private space of a rider on the starting grid and start making negative comments about them is indeed a .......
I sure did
But did you watch the race through the yellow glasses worn by others?
Didn't think so.
Doc they are waiting on VR's opinion before offering the fact as to why Dani lost time
See, this is truth
You can believe what you want to believe, but as with alternate opinions it is an opinion and not fact
Like all people you will be seeing things with a bias and are fully entitled to that
Some may see similar, some may see different .......
Yours, his or his time as a racer?
Seriously as well.
Are you a Rossi fan, a motorcycle racing fan, or a motorcycle racing fan who supports Rossi?
Some will stay, many will go when he leaves
........ …...... and like others I am not blind (as for inept you will need to ask the wife) but .... yeah I can enjoy a race where people ride (or drive) in close formation, right on the edge of grip, ability and every other variable.
Ecviting does NOT have to be passes, it does NOT have to be contact, it can be the sheer artistry of watching those at the top of a chosen sport put it all on the line and ride in manners that we dream of and wake in a sticky mess
I find man v machine for interesting than fairing bashing at 5 corners
Maybe but afterall, have we NOT been told by many racers and forum people alike, that one should not impede or compete with someone fighting for a championship when that one person is out of the chmionship fight themselves?
To me, the bigger question is would the 'unwritten rule' have ever been mentioned were Rossi not invokved …............... I suspect not
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How is it possible that supposed MotoGP "fans" can conclude, in an 18 race season that a championship is won or lost because one rider couldn't execute one pass in one race against the fastest most determined rider in that race?
Rossi fans, and Rossi himself, should upset at Rossi for not winning more races or accumulating more points over the course of a season. If the logic is that one rider "cost" VR the championship, apart from Rossi himself, maybe then Pedrosa and Iannone should be enemy number one, for beating Rossi to a podium. Pedrosa being the reverse supposedly of Marquez crime, that is racing a contender so spirited, once, at one race.
These supposed fans of this sport, and Rossi himself, seem not understand not accumulating maximum points in round 1-9 has the exact same effect as rounds 10-18.
Rossi fans, and Rossi himself, should upset at Rossi for not winning more races or accumulating more points over the course of a season. If the logic is that one rider "cost" VR the championship, apart from Rossi himself, maybe then Pedrosa and Iannone should be enemy number one, for beating Rossi to a podium. Pedrosa being the reverse supposedly of Marquez crime, that is racing a contender so spirited, once, at one race.
These supposed fans of this sport, and Rossi himself, seem not understand not accumulating maximum points in round 1-9 has the exact same effect as rounds 10-18.
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When I look at this race and read the post race interviews I become convinced Marquez was riding shotgun for what he already knows is going to be his new team-mate. I don't suppose Honda can announce the Lorenzo signing just yet. Still Yamaha cancelled the party expecting something to be announced.It is really funny how you can say tons of nonsense for months (WWF, title race inevitably rigged in Rossi''s favor, the sport is manipulated to makke Rossi win and blah blah) and then, when facts disprove every single things you affirmed, in the most undisputable way, you simply add more blatant nonsense.
Bravo!
Honestly, I really think Rossi should go to the psychiatrist. He is always attacking MM and JL and what he is basically asking in this last race is for his enemies to help him win the championship. Only a fool could ask for something as insane.
You really think too high of yourself. Rossi did nto win the championship because he was not good enough. He was simply off pace in the last sessions. That aside, the only reason I upset is that MM with his actions destroyed what could have been good races.
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Why is it that a team principal is saying what the League's ultimate representative Carmelo Ezpeleta should have said immediately when Rossi commiserated his feelings and accusations of Marquez's integrity in public, caught on tape?
Why is a team principal saying more impartial commentary on Rossi's baseless accusations than the supposed "impartial" media, starting with Neil Hodgson ' s attack on Marc's integrity? Reporting has now become an opinion piece, and a poor one at that.
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Dorna agree. Hell they canceled the entire pre-event press conferences, a time honored tradition, to insulate one man.
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No way Lorenzo leaves Yamaha. Yamaha have been really good to him. They stood by him when Rossi told them to choose between the two. He's made his premiere class mark with Yamaha and over the years has worked with them to create a bike that is most uniquely suited to his riding style. Changing to the twitchey Honda would be career suicide.
Nobody deserves to lose a title (IMO) and this includes VR.
As I said a while back, to say someone deserved to lose a title demeans the skills required to win it
But yes, Marquez was less deserving to retain the title this year as quite frankly, his consistency was shocking …... way to many visits to the gravel traps (helped or not) meant that HE destroyed his chances.
You do realise that you do not help any argument you thrust forward by labelling EVERYONE who disagress with Rossi a 'Rossi Hater'
I suspect that many neiutral fans will be surprised but once again, MM did not imped a championship contender as had been requested 2 weeks ago from the very Ross camp no accusing him of NOT becoming involved
Do you see the irony at all?
Jlo to Ducati in 2017
Ianonne to Yamaha
MM stays solid
DP may retire or will be Honda
But he had a lot to prove …....... often that is a bigger incentive
Marquez was 0.35 quicker than Lorenzo in warm up, but yeah, he didn't have the pace.
Remind me …........ what were the ambient air temp and track temps for warmup vs the race again?
Now now 22, do not let FACTS get in the way of bopperist conspiracy theory represented as factual
There is no doubt that Rossi brings dollars and that is part of the issue in that it makes him indispensible to a team as the subsequent dollar impact is large and generally cannot be readily filled.
It is this very impact that allows him to somewhat 'be larger than the sport' in the eyes of many and it is (IMO) a blight on the sport that it continues.
When VR leaves the subsequent impact in sponsorship dollars will be significant but I suspect that the grid and off track political shenanigans will settle slightly before we have the new 'peoples champion' that DORNA so want.
Out of all this however, one suspects whether that will be MM (given recent situations, I suspect not) or Ianonne or another
Exactly ........... they were Rossi fans.
Their nationality does not matter for it is the rider that they support for whom they are booing
nah, he did this all his career.
Sometimes it pays off (many many times did for Vale), sometimes not.
Now it backfired.
On the other side, being paranoid does not mean you are not followed.
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Don't agree. The Yamaha looks smooth because of Lorenzo, not the other way around. Pol and initially Smith have made the Yamaha look twitchy. Lorenzo will make the Honda look very smooth.
Recently the balance in Yamaha has moved back to Rossi. We know Rossi works hard behind the scenes politically. The problem was they did not think he could ever be competitive again. He has since proved them wrong, in large part due to the man he sacked, Burgess, who said what he thought Rossi needed to hear, that he's old and slow and doesn't work as hard as the other riders.
Look at this race again. If Marquez and Lorenzo were actually team-mates the race would look completely normal. Honda has supported the way Marquez rode, even though he failed to get the win, because they already know Lorenzo will be riding for Honda so already consider them team-mates.
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the thing is, after watching the race for the second time, i still have the same pov, tbh i really think marquez wanted to win this race, but he was at fault cuz at the back of his mind he didnt want rossi to win the Championship (which rossi had it comming), so he had to be 1st and lorenzo 2nd, this is the reason(again this is just my pov) he didnt try to pass lorenzo sooner, he was waiting for the last 2 or 3 laps till dani interfered, you say he stopped him sharply, completely right but that was for his own sake cuz if dani wouldve passed him the he wouldve(probably) pass lorenzo too thus making it harder for him to win(specially now in his childish mind even if he can win the race then rossi would be the champion),and that small battle with dani lost him some time and he wasnt able to catch lorenzo on the last lap. yes marquez is kinda guilty(dont know if thats the right word for this situation) but not to the extend that rossi is feeding the press.
and to the other post about rossi'e qualifying and FP time, since the records didnt matter to him anymore, i think he was just trying and practicing for the way he was gonna race and not the lap time.
ps, i really hated lorenzo interview where he said i beat him at everything,everything. he is completely right in saying he won more GPs this year but since when Q,FP,fastest lap of the race, consecutive leading lap,... became more important than being on the podium!!
Some stories are saying no choice
Others are saying it all depends on another person and what they want
Whilst many call ........
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Do I .......... maybe
I suspect that some big dollars will again be offered his way
But, I suspect that it would be a Rossiesque period for JL as the bike does not seem to reward the smooth
Personally, I see him as Yamaha for life if he is allowed to be
