MotoGP: 2015 round 18 - Valencia (SPOILERS)

michaelm · Nov 8, 2015

paparazzo said:
Can't really agree. Vale wiuld have for sure been black flagged if this wasn't the penultimate race of the season. Had it been at Motegi, Misano or even PI he would have been black flagged. This is a business after all and with Valencia sold out, 120,000 people and fans everywhere expecting a title fight at the last race a black flag, was out of the question. You would have seen a requests for refunds and based on what I see in Euro soccer, even a possible riot. Dorna was left with little alternative from a business perspective but to late VR keep his points if he finished the race.

The fairest thing for the championship, as well as JL and Rossi, would have been for Valentino to be docked 3 actual points rather than penalty points imo. Except for how points are scored, the guy with the most points winning and rules about tie breaks I am not sure they have many rules about championships though, the rules mainly concern how races are to be run.

nomad · Nov 8, 2015

So Marquez stays second the entire race without attempting a single overtake? Never seen that happen before. James Allen from F1 tweeted the following.

"Great ride by @lorenzo99 but #Marquez needs to ask himself where priorities lie - made no effort to pass and blocked Pedosa. Shame @MotoGP".

Dr No · Nov 8, 2015

paparazzo said:
Can't really agree. Vale wiuld have for sure been black flagged if this wasn't the penultimate race of the season. Had it been at Motegi, Misano or even PI he would have been black flagged. This is a business after all and with Valencia sold out, 120,000 people and fans everywhere expecting a title fight at the last race a black flag, was out of the question. You would have seen a requests for refunds and based on what I see in Euro soccer, even a possible riot. Dorna was left with little alternative from a business perspective but to late VR keep his points if he finished the race.

What I saw Was a title fight. It was a ....... exciting race.

propagandhi · Nov 8, 2015

Sometimes you have to unite to fight back.
Marquez and Lorenzo on the same page.

Something needs to be seriously ...... up in gp if they team up. And it ain't them.

I hope vale comes back a better man after this. I know I loved him after the duc humble pie,maybe he needed this

Dr No · Nov 8, 2015

nomad said:
So Marquez stays second the entire race without attempting a single overtake? Never seen that happen before. James Allen from F1 tweeted the following.

"Great ride by @lorenzo99 but #Marquez needs to ask himself where priorities lie - made no effort to pass and blocked Pedosa. Shame @MotoGP".

Who is James Allen? Seriously? I don't pay attention to F1

xx CURVE xx · Nov 8, 2015

Good times! See ya'll next year!

michaelm · Nov 8, 2015

nomad said:
So Marquez stays second the entire race without attempting a single overtake? Never seen that happen before. James Allen from F1 tweeted the following.

"Great ride by @lorenzo99 but #Marquez needs to ask himself where priorities lie - made no effort to pass and blocked Pedosa. Shame @MotoGP".

Like everyone else, he can have whatever opinion he likes, but it will remain an opinion.

nomad · Nov 8, 2015

#22 said:

Point being he did in Sepang and clearly didn't in Valencia.

RedRob · Nov 8, 2015

Jpslotus what an ..... talk about grief for ten years you've been a member since April lol. Rossi fans are clearly not glory hounds and are fans for life.

GraciasMarquez · Nov 8, 2015

Rossi should not talk about teaming up. Just look how Italian riders let him pass. Unbelievable. Petrucci almost comitted suicide. I am even wondering now whether Ianone crashed to gift Rossi 1 spot so he doesn't have to make it that obvious that he would let him pass; though he already said prerace he was not going to fight Rossi.

And what was the start about ? Rossi should have started last but he didn't. There was 1 guy even after him. What the .... ??? How is that possible ? Did Rossi cheat again ?

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

Dr No said:
Who is James Allen? Seriously? I don't pay attention to F1

Another ..... F1 journalist.

Doesn't rock the boat like the rest of them lest his credentials be revoked.

He should stick to commenting on F1.

nomad · Nov 8, 2015

Dr No said:
Who is James Allen? Seriously? I don't pay attention to F1

Commentator.

MichaelBolton · Nov 8, 2015

nomad said:
Point being he did in Sepang and clearly didn't in Valencia.

Because race direction cautioned him last race. He's a good boy, he learns fast :clap3:

nomad · Nov 8, 2015

GraciasMarquez said:
Rossi should not talk about teaming up. Just look how Italian riders let him pass. Unbelievable. Petrucci almost comitted suicide. I am even wondering now whether Ianone crashed to gift Rossi 1 spot so he doesn't have to make it that obvious that he would let him pass; though he already said prerace he was not going to fight Rossi.

And what was the start about ? Rossi should have started last but he didn't. There was 1 guy even after him. What the .... ??? How is that possible ? Did Rossi cheat again ?

Seriously? Some .... is spoused on here but that's up there.

michaelm · Nov 8, 2015

nomad said:
Point being he did in Sepang and clearly didn't in Valencia.

Counterpoint being that according to you guys his actions were wrong both times.

JPSLotus · Nov 8, 2015

Goes back to the point of, if MM races a championship contender he gets ...., if he supposedly doesn't do it, those same people are screaming about it.

He can't win.

RedRob · Nov 8, 2015

GraciasMarquez said:
Rossi should not talk about teaming up. Just look how Italian riders let him pass. Unbelievable. Petrucci almost comitted suicide. I am even wondering now whether Ianone crashed to gift Rossi 1 spot so he doesn't have to make it that obvious that he would let him pass; though he already said prerace he was not going to fight Rossi.

And what was the start about ? Rossi should have started last but he didn't. There was 1 guy even after him. What the .... ??? How is that possible ? Did Rossi cheat again ?

.......

#22 · Nov 8, 2015

nomad said:
So Marquez stays second the entire race without attempting a single overtake? Never seen that happen before. James Allen from F1 tweeted the following.

"Great ride by @lorenzo99 but #Marquez needs to ask himself where priorities lie - made no effort to pass and blocked Pedosa. Shame @MotoGP".

Thats what the Irishman said when his Donkey died.

nomad said:
Point being he did in Sepang and clearly didn't in Valencia.

Maybe he had bike issues different to what he had in Sepang. Maybe he did just decide to not race JL and ignore the team who employs him and writes his cheques. Kinda like Rossi clearly ignored his team to not race JL in Motegi 2010.

Rossi bopperism never fails to amaze me.

RedRob · Nov 8, 2015

Race a contender is fine but to purposely impede that rider is ....

michaelm · Nov 8, 2015

#22 said:
Thats what the Irishman said when his Donkey died.

Maybe he had bike issues different to what he had in Sepang. Maybe he did just decide to not race JL and ignore the team who employs him and writes his cheques. Kinda like Rossi clearly ignored his team to not race JL in Motegi 2010.

Rossi bopperism never fails to amaze me.

Maybe Rossi double crossed himself as he has many times in this whole circus and MM was actually instructed by RD or Honda not to put hard passes on race contenders

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