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sewarion
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cliché, I think Geo made a nice point as far as (not) following through was concerned. And come on, they touched a bit, but it was no 'killer move' or so.


 


Geo, I didn't find MM's breaking 'alarming'. It was close, very close, but he was able to hold the line and keep the distance. This is close racing at teh highest level. I'm not a giant fan of Marquez, but he is acting much less stupid and far more up to it than I ever expected.


 


stiefel, I see no second Rossi in Marquez. I just loved the way he basically said 'it was obviously ok when Rosdsi did it, so don't you dare punishing me for it'. He seems to be playing with his rivals, and in doing so he show's an unexpected amount of smartness.


 


edit: Has anyone already pointed out that Lorenzo got beaten in 'Lorenzo corner'?


See #176 :whistling:
 
I was wrong about Marquez losing the front. Looked more like the rear twitching as he's braking too hard. 


 


Stand by my judgement, though. No penalty needed. Leave the door that wide open, and someone is coming through, especially someone as young, dumb and full of cum as Marquez. As Bradley Smith said, Lorenzo isn't used to having to race. He is used to being so much faster than the rest that he'd get by them quickly and piss off. Marquez isn't going to do that. "In Moto2, we went for gaps a lot smaller than that," said Smith. 


 


Marquez was a long way past Lorenzo at the turn in point. Lorenzo could easily have beaten him by the simple expedient of braking a little harder, then turning in after Marquez had overshot. But he didn't really conceive of the idea that anyone would have the temerity to attempt to stuff it up the inside. He found out the hard way that Marquez is no respecter of authority.


 


I for one welcome our new alien overlord.


 


Oh, and Rossi is now best of the rest. Crutchlow is keen to point out that he was matching Rossi's pace, once he had stopped being held up by Bautista. And he's probably right.
 
CaramaC
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Couple more ....


 


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One cannot blame Marquez in the circumstances. Last corner, door wide open, he dived for it.


Lorenzo should have either kept the door closed, or allowed Marquez to pass (and go wide), to run a tighter line on exit.


He was honest enough to admit his mistake. He didn't want to shake hands with Marc, but he didn't complain either. 
 
Kropotkin
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I was wrong about Marquez losing the front. Looked more like the rear twitching as he's braking too hard. 


 


Stand by my judgement, though. No penalty needed. Leave the door that wide open, and someone is coming through, especially someone as young, dumb and full of cum as Marquez. As Bradley Smith said, Lorenzo isn't used to having to race. He is used to being so much faster than the rest that he'd get by them quickly and piss off. Marquez isn't going to do that. "In Moto2, we went for gaps a lot smaller than that," said Smith.


 


Marquez was a long way past Lorenzo at the turn in point. Lorenzo could easily have beaten him by the simple expedient of braking a little harder, then turning in after Marquez had overshot. But he didn't really conceive of the idea that anyone would have the temerity to attempt to stuff it up the inside. He found out the hard way that Marquez is no respecter of authority.


 


I for one welcome our new alien overlord.


 


Oh, and Rossi is now best of the rest. Crutchlow is keen to point out that he was matching Rossi's pace, once he had stopped being held up by Bautista. And he's probably right.


^^^^^^^^^^


This 100%


Now, at least Jorge knows where he stands and as a result I think we will see a much more exciting championship.  Of course, unless Jorge starts to get some serious support from his largely absent teammate it's going to be one Yamaha against two Hondas every race.
 
I can only imagine SuperSic v. Marquez. The mash-ups would be epic.


 


Rossi---- He is done. I think that it is time to retire while he has some of his aura left. Go win in World Superbikes #46
 
Duc999
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I can only imagine SuperSic v. Marquez. The mash-ups would be epic.


 


Rossi---- He is done. I think that it is time to retire while he has some of his aura left. Go win in World Superbikes #46


 


How? Simoncelli would have seen Marquez once on the starting grid, and never again.
 
Mick D
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I think he's about where he can expect to be. This year he'll sniff Marquez' seat, have to watch out for rampant satellites, or ride to lonely 4ths.


Fixed it for you.
 
stiefel
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That's it, isn't it. More blood, guts and mindless fairing bashing for the hordes of idiots who can't appreciate a motorcycle race for what it is. No wonder the officials are so lax, this .... puts butts on the seats. And it looks so cool in those crash compilations on youtube, courtesy of the motogp channel.


LOL! - you sound exactly like me when I got into a heated flame war with.... .... if I can remember the guy's name - when I first came around Powerslide. I agree with others that his weebly-wobbly antics earlier in the race were of more concern. Jorge left an opening and the kid took it. The move may not had a lot of finesse - but I thought it was legit.
 
Rofl, only took 3 races for something involving Marquez to happen. Marquez is a positive to MotoGP, a new rider for PS posters to get riled up about!
 
Geonerd
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IMO, JL left way too much space and MM made a wild, Melandri-worthy lunge that really shouldn't have paid off.  If the timing was slightly different, Lorenzo could have simply cut back underneath.  To MM's credit, at least he didn't 'follow through' and deliberately run <strike>Sete</strike> Lorenzo in to the gravel.


 


MM's three (more?) near torpedoes earlier in the race were more alarming.  Each time he wobbled to within inches of Lorenzo's rear tire, I was muttering to myself, "That ......'s gonna kill someone!"


 


Lorenzo said he wasn't aware of how close MM was.  I'm surprised no team has installed something like an ultrasonic range finder in the tail of their bikes.  An easy to read multicolored light on the dash could convey distance to the chasing rider.


 


Pedrosa - one of his ~3 annual easy wins that occur when everything is perfect.


 


Cal - what happened?  Tires and heat, I assume.


 


Rossi now understands what it's like to ride a bike that's not specifically made for him and him alone.


 


Bradl - Dude?!


 


Dovi - a hurting Hayden kicked your ....  Wazzup?


 


Didn't he already learn that at Ducati? :scratch:
 
sewarion
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cliché, I think Geo made a nice point as far as (not) following through was concerned. And come on, they touched a bit, but it was no 'killer move' or so.


 


Geo, I didn't find MM's breaking 'alarming'. It was close, very close, but he was able to hold the line and keep the distance. This is close racing at teh highest level. I'm not a giant fan of Marquez, but he is acting much less stupid and far more up to it than I ever expected.


 


stiefel, I see no second Rossi in Marquez. I just loved the way he basically said 'it was obviously ok when Rosdsi did it, so don't you dare punishing me for it'. He seems to be playing with his rivals, and in doing so he show's an unexpected amount of smartness.


 


edit: Has anyone already pointed out that Lorenzo got beaten in 'Lorenzo corner'?


Nick Harris said it as it happened.
 
cliché guevara
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How can someone who loves stoner and haga be so wrong :(


Watch the impact. Worse than what happened to sete.

Small miracle jorge didn't crash


Jorge left a lot more room than Sete did  who was already turning in, and has been pointed out in previous discussions Rossi then proceeded to deliberately force Sete right across the track.


 


I still think you will find most would prefer to have this sort of close racing with Rossi rather than Marquez though; Rossi is one of the ;safest riders there has ever been which Marquez isn't.


 


Rather worse than Stoner's pass on Bautista last year too, although Marquez gets no deduction of marks for hypocrisy.
 
Bradley Smith on the incident. He nails it:


 
Racing incident. If you're going to

leave the door open like that and invite someone through, at the end

of the day, if you've come from 125 and Moto2, you learn that if a

gap's shown to you like that, you take it. I mean we go for tiny

gaps, so when it's that wide, you don't hesitate.





 



I don't think Moto2 is necessarily

breeding a more aggressive type of rider, I think let's be honest,

Jorge has been a world champion for a number of years from 250s, he's

not had to race. When he catches someone, he passes them, he leaves

them. Or he rides around on his own and disappears into the distance.

You lose that last little bit of aggressiveness. Let's be honest, his

last serious race, you're probably looking at 2005, Motegi? Where

like it was tooth and nail, back and forth with De Angelis and

Pedrosa and those boys. So that's what we're probably looking at. But

at the end of the day, Marquez was looking a little bit lairy all

race, was nearly in the back of him a few times.





 



At the end of the day, if you don't

want someone to pass, you cover you're inside line. That's like the

first rule of last corner. You're the one that takes the inside, if

he wants to go round the outside, that's up to him.





 
 

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