Tires started it, but the Yamahas don't have the same problem. So you have to say that the fault is in the design.
MotoGp 2012 Rnd1 Qatar FP.Quali.Predictions
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Tires started it, but the Yamahas don't have the same problem. So you have to say that the fault is in the design.
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Agreed.
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What, Stoner might be sandbagging? U've told us multiple times he has no such gene for this sort of thing. Ah, the apologies, denials, rationalizations begin. What, Stoner did short stint? He's never done that before...Its the Honda, its ..... Its not possible Lorenzo tried harder?
So the Honda guy says the Yamaha is better...uh yeah, not motive there. Lets all believe him, eh?
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Honda in trouble? Why, cuz he got nip for pole by the man who got pole his first time in the class as a rookie? Uhm... Lets not jump to conclusions just yet. The race is tomorrow.
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If that's his "racepace" Rossi way up .... creek now, sad to see I have watched him for years and admire his talent, but after watching last night I'm afraid he's gonna be an also ran this year.
On the plus side; at least the CRT's will keep him honest.
I'm gonna say it now. Valentino is to be the first factory rider beaten to the line by a CRT entry.
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Uhm..so what? To keep it from being a perfect machine?
U would know better than us, but "massive"? Dude got nipped for pole by guy who got pole as a rookie.
Exactly because of this. If I was a lorenzo, pedrosa or rossi fan and one of them was only 0.2 seconds off pole I would not be concerned. Stoner though is known for trying to dominate every session as much as he can and very likely showed everything he had. This is also qatar, where he won 4 of the 5 premier class 800 formula races, and was comfortably the fastest and crashed when he had a substantial lead in the other. He also got pole on the lcr honda in 2006, and won the 2005 race in the 250 class.
6 or so flying laps in the whole of QP also suggests he is not comfortable. I am not giving up, he showed the ability to find something for the race on a couple of occasions last year. I would not even be worried about the yamaha being a little faster bike as may prove to be the case, but it is difficult to have the confidence to ride a bike beyond ordinary human limits as he has been able to do in the past if the chatter is as severe as is being said.
No excuses btw, it is up to him and honda to fix the problem, and more power to yamaha and jorge if they have come up with a good bike. Jorge also remains a seriously good rider.
I would like to see crutchlow repeat his practice form in the race, I love the way he rides. I currently have some hope for the new formula as well, particularly given cal's performance and nicky's (if he can get his tyres to last in the race); the "golden age" of the 500 formula we all love was dominated by superbike riders riding point and shoot.
Qualifying this season is different than qualifying last season. The fuel is still unlimited, but the reliability rules no longer benefit Honda in the 1000cc era. I think Yamaha's inline configuration gives them more options for qualifying setup as well. Unless Stoner finds something mega, qualifying is going to be a competitive affair, and Yamaha will probably have an edge. If Spies can get his qualifying setup sorted, he will probably score several poles this season.
Unlike 2011, the race will not necessarily reflect qualifying, imo.
Nicky basically said this in his post QP interview. He's running the tires off the bike trying to keep pace with the others. He expects tire life to be a big issue in the race. I think Nicky and Rossi will look sharp for 5 or 6 laps and then struggle badly just to stay ahead of CE and RdP. I wish I felt better about their chances but I don't. I do believe that Rossi will extract the maximum from the tire in terms of life but that won't be enough.
On the other hand, there's a 50/50 chance of a huge pile up in turn 1 that changes the dynamic of the entire mid pack. This is the first race of the season, everyone is hungry, no one is going to be cruising in to turn 1 and I think the likelyhood of several bikes going down is fairly high...
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No, Honda aren't in trouble because Stoner got beaten for pole, just as they weren't in trouble when the same thing happened in 2011.
But, given that the top six consists of 4 x Yamaha, 1 x Ducati and 1 x Honda where that Honda is ridden by Stoner and on a track where his results have been sensational for a number of years, to me that is cause for concern at Qatar. It is not necessarily cause for concern for the season but if the pattern were to continue then absolutely there is an issue and it is incumbent to ensure that the issue is recognised (just as I suspect that heads are cranking to solve it now).
Chatter or not I don't think Stoner or Honda are in big trouble at all.
Who was fastest on race tyres? Before the softs went on?
Who will race with softs anyway? Lorenzo will be tough to beat, but he always is. Spies will be as well.
Who was fastest on race tyres? Before the softs went on?
Who will race with softs anyway? Lorenzo will be tough to beat, but he always is. Spies will be as well.
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http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/ducati+review+qatar+qp
Valentino Rossi:
"Yesterday was nothing fantastic but a lot better, especially with the used tyre, so my goal was to qualify on the second row. I’m very far from that target though, as the problems that we had before were worse. It’s very strange because we only made some small changes from yesterday, but the feeling was very different. After that we returned to yesterday’s setting and I went a little bit faster, but it wasn’t enough to significantly improve the result. I’m not sure what to expect for the race, but obviously, I hope to do better. Nicky made a different setup choice than ours and did a good session with both tyres, so now we’ll also look at his data and try to do better."
lol.. anyone read this?.. sorry.. but this is hilarious to me.. Lorenzo his teammate = wall. Nicky his teammate = gimme that.
Valentino Rossi:
"Yesterday was nothing fantastic but a lot better, especially with the used tyre, so my goal was to qualify on the second row. I’m very far from that target though, as the problems that we had before were worse. It’s very strange because we only made some small changes from yesterday, but the feeling was very different. After that we returned to yesterday’s setting and I went a little bit faster, but it wasn’t enough to significantly improve the result. I’m not sure what to expect for the race, but obviously, I hope to do better. Nicky made a different setup choice than ours and did a good session with both tyres, so now we’ll also look at his data and try to do better."
lol.. anyone read this?.. sorry.. but this is hilarious to me.. Lorenzo his teammate = wall. Nicky his teammate = gimme that.
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Seriously, we're going to debate whether or not the Honda & Stoner are in trouble? With all do respect my friend...WTF?!? Where have all the sane people gone?
So let me get this straight, Stoner has led every single test, every single session, ever single practice, with the same Honda and the same tires, but ur gonna base ur entire premise that theyre in "trouble" based on the last 3 mins of qual where Stoner admitted to setting issues, and where Lorenzo, a previous pole setter, barely edged him out as time ran out?
Well ...., Ducati should pack up and go home if Honda is in trouble. I think the problem here is expectation. U and a few others might think its a foregone conclusion. Thing is these guys are not robots and computers. The world is not ending because Stoner didnt get pole at Qatar.
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Thats why they line up gentz. Even Rossi got beat now and then when he was in his peak. The others guys are trying too peeps.
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I'm no rider's "fan". I only care about reality and I admire the riders who've got that unique talent (that's why Stoner also is in my fav riders list since 2007).
It is because I have always been fully aware of Rossi's talent, that I cannot stand him allowing himself to be beaten by Abrahams and Barbera. If he has lost the sacred fire (something bound to happen sooner or later), he should acknowledge it and draw the consequences. Heck, there's no 'strategy' or 'bike setup' that can justify Rossi not being faster than Barbera or Abraham.
I wouldn't justify Stoner being beaten by Bradl or Bautista, so why should I justify Rossi being beaten by satellite Ducatis? Come on.
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