I think it was a mistake, but it doesn't mean it's not reckless. The same applies to Rossi's pass at Jerez. It was a mistake, but it was reckless.
Scott is an excellent journalist, and I largely agree with his article.
Scott is an excellent journalist, and I largely agree with his article.
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To be sure - I didn't bring it up. As to his intelligence - he had a good grasp of racing, but his rage and willingness to lash out were undeniable.
There's just too many things about "synn" that don't add up. And too many parallels that call attention to themselves.
That’s the thing though, Rossi wasn’t penalised for Jerez 2011, at least MM was always going to make it through the corner, Stoner made no attempt to make capital out of the Jerez incident/made no accusations of recklessness despite rather more justification imo, and was in fact vilified by pretty much the same people who want MM’s head now for a much milder reaction to an apology than MM received from the Rossi pit.
For the penalty, I think one key distinction between Jerez11 and Argentina18 is the sheer volume of incidents Marquez was involved in during the race (not to mention the weekend).
If we want to discuss the question of why Marquez was called reckless after the incident, it's due to the extremely high frequency of dangerous moves he has made (as I detailed in other threads). By contrast, aAt that point in Rossi's (16 year) career, he had only really been involved in two questionable manoeuvres (Jerez05, LS08), so Stoner (who destroyed Sete's shoulder in 06 and caused his retirement) didn't have strong cause to call Rossi reckless (given the infrequency incidents Rossi had experienced until that point). Stoner nevertheless gave Rossi a strong serve when Rossi entered his garage.
There is a good argument that Rossi should've been penalized at Jerez11. It was never going to stick. I remember seeing Rossi attempt the pass an instant before the crash and feeling a sense of bewilderment.
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Not necessarily, is it? Because nobody is really arguing that MM has an aggressive riding style, which many have had for a while and others have at present, or that he had a horrible day in Argentina. What they argue is that if somebody asks for harsher punishments or a ban for a certain action or style then it seems that other incidents during the same race or other riders should be included in the conversation too (e.g. Zarco, Petrucci) and that no differentiation should be made only based on the rider's name.
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We finally figured out who you are. Your rage and willingness to lash out were the giveaway
Your Keshav
You're clearly a rational thinker, so you'd assume that nobody would argue that point. In fact, there are a crew of loons here that contend that very point.
Agreed. I think that's uncontroversial.
I don't think they are arguing that. I think that people look past the point made due to the 'insults' which accompany such points. Some have expressed their opinion that they think that Rossi could have avoided the incident, with which I agree, some argue that it is not bad offence if it wasn't for the 'bad' day MM had that day and that we would not be talking about it if the person that landed on the tarmac wasn't VR and I agree with all of it and actually believe you do to.
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You still spell spell like a 2nd grader. I ask again - how's that "I'm only going to talk about racing" thing going?
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And you are still hiding behind your avatar and won't post anything to identify yourself - and since you're such a hard-..., or so you claim, the only reason why you would be afraid to post anything, is that you're a sockpuppet and I think we know whose.
And I'll say this about Knockdown... at least he doesn't repeat the same insipid joke 60 times a day.
And I'll say this about Knockdown... at least he doesn't repeat the same insipid joke 60 times a day.
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I told you where to find me, curryfart. Why aren’t you booking your tickets?
I’ll even bring the piece of .... Subaru around!
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Are you saying I’d recognise you by your well waxed moustache and the mouth full of gold?
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Dramatic! Do you write headlines for the newspapers by any chance? Here’s a headline following your train of thought “Rossi kills best friend at Sepang!!!”
Let’s leave the dramatic over exaggerations to the journalists and stick to the topic buddy. Do the riders as a whole agree Marquez is reckless, dangerous, unsafe? I don’t know myself, as you pointed out I can’t read their minds, yet from statements in the press no rider other than Rossi is calling for action specifically on Marquez. Maybe they should follow motogp tradition and have a vote?
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They banned the winged spikes on the fairings on the grounds of safety thank God. Can you imagine the terror of the riders having to face a spikey Marquez. It would be much to bear for some. Or is that one?
