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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 24 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who knows? If rumours are to be believed a lot of the factory teams have a and b riders and a and b bikes, except perhaps yamaha this year. I consider it unlikely that stoner would have started with a better bike than capirossi last year though.
i agree, but thats just our opinion not a fact
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Alrighty then, go back a couple of seasons to Nicky Hayden's WC year and what do we find, Nicky developing a bike (well documented) , Pedrosa not so much, who won the championship? No matter whether Melandri is developing a bike or not there is no excuse for being at the back of the grid when your team mate is at the front. With the Hondas in 06 they were never far away from each other.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 24 2008, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i agree, but thats just our opinion not a fact
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I think garry has been a race bike mechanic as I gather have you, so maybe he has an inside source, but I am not sure that everybody in the teams even really knows all the intricacies of what is going on, let alone is likely to reveal same.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 24 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think garry has been a race bike mechanic as I gather have you, so maybe he has an inside source, but I am not sure that everybody in the teams even really knows all the intricacies of what is going on, let alone is likely to reveal same.
yes i have but it was a one bike team and many moons ago.
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Just wanted to add to this thread that MM didnt have a bad season in 2006 and 2007, i still think he is worth another ride with honda. suits his riding style a lot more.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (krusty @ Jun 24 2008, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Is there something in the water in Southampton that makes you people get on this forum and post inane comments ?

Isn't Rog from Southhampton? Ah, that explains it now.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 24 2008, 06:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes i have but it was a one bike team and many moons ago.
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Yeah, but I think the bikes have changed significantly since then. The spokes on the wheels are no longer made of wood.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jun 24 2008, 06:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Who knows? If rumours are to be believed a lot of the factory teams have a and b riders and a and b bikes, except perhaps yamaha this year. I consider it unlikely that stoner would have started with a better bike than capirossi last year though.

Rumours?? Just becasue Rog lives in an imaginary world doesn't mean its just an "opinion" or "rumours". There is plenty of evidence from riders talking about #1 and #2 riders status and development duties. Does anybody really believe "teammates" Edwards and Rossi were BOTH #1s, ever? hahaha. Please.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Jun 24 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rumours?? Just becasue Rog lives in an imaginary world doesn't mean its just an "opinion" or "rumours". There is plenty of evidence from riders talking about #1 and #2 riders status and development duties. Does anybody really believe "teammates" Edwards and Rossi were BOTH #1s, ever? hahaha. Please.
well that was my point you dufus
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Jun 23 2008, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh, Roger has a friend. Isn't that sweet. Having a little cuddle fest are we? Little bit of moral support? Just like little Rog and his little friend Curve over on the other thread about invading Donnington, where yet again we see Roger's hatred of Stoner. Rog and his funny little friend who likes to put up funny little pictures just like he does when he goes to preschool. Can I have a crayon as well? We can draw pictures together.
Rog has friends because he is informed, respectful and rarely puts his foot in his mouth. Even if he is a fanboy.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Jun 24 2008, 07:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Something tells me you haven't followed the GP for long otherwise you would know what a great rider Marco really is!!
I'm pretty sure Krusty probably knows more about the GP scene than anyone else here.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Jun 24 2008, 07:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>All things being equal Marco could wipe the floor with Stoner!
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Doubtful.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 24 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rog has friends because he is informed, respectful and rarely puts his foot in his mouth. Even if he is a fanboy.
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I'm pretty sure Krusty probably knows more about the GP scene than anyone else here.


Doubtful.
not being satirical are you ooost ? but i will take the complement mate
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 24 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>not being satirical are you ooost ? but i will take the complement mate
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Naw mate, really respect and enjoy reading your posts.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Marco beat Stoner in Turkey when they were both on sat Hondas
Are you really comparing the Gresini Honda of 2006 with the LCR Honda of the same year? Honda were preparing to take the title fight to Rossi with Melandri that season. He got what he needed that season shortly after Dani and Nicky. Stoner's bike was left relatively unchanged the whole season, a prime reason why he left for Ducati (and who would turn down a factory Ducati ride other than John Hopkins?).
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 24 2008, 01:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Naw mate, really respect and enjoy reading your posts.


Are you really comparing the Gresini Honda of 2006 with the LCR Honda of the same year? Honda were preparing to take the title fight to Rossi with Melandri that season. He got what he needed that season shortly after Dani and Nicky. Stoner's bike was left relatively unchanged the whole season, a prime reason why he left for Ducati

The same can be said for the Duc now....Stoner gets ANYTHING...Marco gets what they feel already works...vicious circle this debate don't you think?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 24 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>a prime reason why he left for Ducati (and who would turn down a factory Ducati ride other than John Hopkins?).

Are you being funny, Hayden turned it down. If he hadn't where would Stoner be now? On his ride at HRC?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 24 2008, 08:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Naw mate, really respect and enjoy reading your posts.


Are you really comparing the Gresini Honda of 2006 with the LCR Honda of the same year? Honda were preparing to take the title fight to Rossi with Melandri that season. He got what he needed that season shortly after Dani and Nicky. Stoner's bike was left relatively unchanged the whole season, a prime reason why he left for Ducati (and who would turn down a factory Ducati ride other than John Hopkins?).
cheer's mate and the feeling is mutual although we dont get treated to your opinion as often as i would like these days.

as sat teams went gresini had a pretty good package taking marco to 4th in the championship but the lcr wasn't all that bad. after all it took stoner to 8th with i dnf and 6 retirement's so fast it was, the crashes are debatable as to whether it was bike or rider and no i dont want to debate it (please)
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Jun 24 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The same can be said for the Duc now....Stoner gets ANYTHING...Marco gets what they feel already works...vicious circle this debate don't you think?

More layers than an onion.... And for the most part, we're all just guessing. Good, educated guesses based on knowledge past and present spoon-fed to us by riders, teams, and media, but nonetheless guesses.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Jun 24 2008, 11:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rog has friends because he is informed, respectful and rarely puts his foot in his mouth. Even if he is a fanboy.
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Are you smoking some .... a bit more intoxicating than the guy in your avatar?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jun 24 2008, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>cheer's mate and the feeling is mutual although we dont get treated to your opinion as often as i would like these days.
Get a room.
 

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