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JB and a few others of the core team will go with him, but not the extended team (it was around 15 people when they left Yamaha).
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JB and a few others of the core team will go with him, but not the extended team (it was around 15 people when they left Yamaha).
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Make that no-one but Stoner could ride either chassis since 2007.
Not too sure about race proven either, lots of unexplained front end loses by 2010, even with Stoner - 5 crashes during races that season, all front end loses. In 2009 he had no race crashes (apart from the Valencia cold tyres on the warm-uplap). In 2008 he had 3 - Laguna, Brno & Misano, certainly the first was possibly due to red mist
BTW, what do you mean by "kardan & telelever"? I tried google, but no help there. Also, why would "more comfortable ride and cheaper maintenance" be of interest in MotoGP
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Got an inside knowledge have you?
I guess that's all Rossi could afford on 3-4 million.
That's all Yamaha is ready to take back...
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
have i said differently?
maybe you should watch your tone when you can't analyze and properly debate kid.
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
Make that no-one but Stoner could ride either chassis since 2007.
Not too sure about race proven either, lots of unexplained front end loses by 2010, even with Stoner - 5 crashes during races that season, all front end loses. In 2009 he had no race crashes (apart from the Valencia cold tyres on the warm-uplap). In 2008 he had 3 - Laguna, Brno & Misano, certainly the first was possibly due to red mistthe others were possibly the first signs of front end issues even before the control Bridgestone??
BTW, what do you mean by "kardan & telelever"? I tried google, but no help there. Also, why would "more comfortable ride and cheaper maintenance" be of interest in MotoGP
drive shaft and a special sort of fork,bmw motorrad trademarks in a way. of course those have no business in motogp because they don't offer the same performance, have never said differently
was the 800 ducati ever a real good bike. most certainly not.
but even though that bike was a real ..... to ride on the right day it was competitive in the right hands. see aragon 2010 where nicky hayden could beat lorge lorenzo on a factorý yamaha to a podium.i don't feel like singing stoners praises again and again, i'm as big of a casey fan as anybody.everybody knows that he was the only one capable of taming the beast. but there lies the problem. there used to be something in that bike that could be extracted given the right circumstances,including stoners awesome riding.now its just a slow bike.
the bike seems to have become more easy to ride since they went big bang in 2010 and especially since this year,that is it won't fold or pump as violently. but by going the japanese route they lost all realistic chances of having a competitive bike.
i'm pretty sure most people who know would agree that for ducati the only realistic chance of having at least a couple of wins per year (if not spending a LOT more so they can beat honda at their own game...yeah right) is by trying something different to yamaha/honda.
trying to turn the desmosedici in a m1 or rc made the bike slightly more friendly but significantly slower when ridden on the edge.
I wasn't trying to offend you man. I admit I'm a little challenged at getting the right emotion across on the internet (that's why I usually stay out of it..ha) It's all good, if we were talking face to face this wouldn't have been an issue..
Und ich sehe du bist aus Siebenbuergen, ich bin in Kassel aufgewachsen, also haben wir doch was gemeinsam. Freunde?
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siebenbürgen süße heimat!
I wasn't trying to offend you man. I admit I'm a little challenged at getting the right emotion across on the internet (that's why I usually stay out of it..ha) It's all good, if we were talking face to face this wouldn't have been an issue..
Und ich sehe du bist aus Siebenbuergen, ich bin in Kassel aufgewachsen, also haben wir doch was gemeinsam. Freunde?
haha ,word.
no worries no issues without even speaking about it
klar haben wir was gemeinsam,auch ohne deutschland.alle motorrad verrückten sind brüder
haha ,word.
no worries no issues without even speaking about it
klar haben wir was gemeinsam,auch ohne deutschland.alle motorrad verrückten sind brüder
ha, das stimmt!
Great post dude.
I agree 100%. Going the safe route for Duc is wrong, and they will be unlikely to catch Honda and Yamaha. Duc needs to innovate, take the less safe route, and try to find somthing different. For example, I am happy to see them trying carbon fibre. Make the Duc an evil fire breathing monster, and try to find someone able to ride it the way it needs to be riden. I'm a big fan of Rossi, but don't think he's the one (or Pedro or Lorenzo).
As I said in another post, Duc needs to go back to the last point where the bike worked, and start again.
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Thursday, 09 August 2012 08:40
As reported worldwide was the announcement of whether or not Rossi at Yamaha scheduled for 15 August, there will be tomorrow Friday at 9.00 am, according to "La Gazzetta dello Sport" a press release from Ducati as regards the separation between the two parties. Ducati and Yamaha would be decided have the earlier, because tensions between the 3 parties (Ducati, Yamaha and VR46) the last few days has been quite high incurred jointly decided earlier to disclose, so still waiting 24 hours.
http://translate.goo...ie2KglLA6-Dw6hQ
Dave Kropot reporting similar thing too
Looks like Yamaha have realized the cat is out of the bag. Rossi announcement tomorrow, say Italian media.
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you can .......... run dance sing in the streets tomorrow Rossi fans like 5yr old's opening presents on Christmas Day Morning
As reported worldwide was the announcement of whether or not Rossi at Yamaha scheduled for 15 August, there will be tomorrow Friday at 9.00 am, according to "La Gazzetta dello Sport" a press release from Ducati as regards the separation between the two parties. Ducati and Yamaha would be decided have the earlier, because tensions between the 3 parties (Ducati, Yamaha and VR46) the last few days has been quite high incurred jointly decided earlier to disclose, so still waiting 24 hours.
http://translate.goo...ie2KglLA6-Dw6hQ
Dave Kropot reporting similar thing too
Looks like Yamaha have realized the cat is out of the bag. Rossi announcement tomorrow, say Italian media.
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you can .......... run dance sing in the streets tomorrow Rossi fans like 5yr old's opening presents on Christmas Day Morning
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the whole motogp should be ashamed its a complete joke from top to bottom Owners Manufactures Teams Riders
this imo makes Rossi look bad without a doubt if he signs for Yamahahahahaha Carmelo etc Rossi will ride a competitive bike blah blah
the blokes done nothing to get a top factory ride and the more riders that leave the better i say
this soap opera is the reason ppl across social media the net etc are calling it and have been a while
i said before on here yrs ago i wont pay ever to watch this .... trackside even if i won £10m on the euro lottery i wouldnt
and if the TV Coverage goes behind a big pay wall it will have one less viewer because i wont pay a subscription either
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Well said Pidge,
You have to wonder if Yamaha was 'persuaded' by Carmelo to give Ben a POS bike so that he's choose to leave, thus miracolously freeing up a competitive seat for Rossi.
MotoGP is going the same way as F1 was in the early 2000's. Dominated by one or two riders on the same team. It makes for great viewing .... for the Rossi boppers but real racers want RACING, and hence why the sport will be totally ...... when Rossi does leave, because viewing figures will drop to about 10 people, sponsors and teams wont want to spend millions on advertising to those 10 people and only then can we hope to see the re-birth of GP bike racing.
I am sad Stoner is leaving, I am sad Spies is leaving, because both are world class riders who could put on a hell of a show given good equipment, and they have been bullied out of the paddock due to the bully boy tactics of the Valentino Rossi Bopper show.
You have to wonder if Yamaha was 'persuaded' by Carmelo to give Ben a POS bike so that he's choose to leave, thus miracolously freeing up a competitive seat for Rossi.
MotoGP is going the same way as F1 was in the early 2000's. Dominated by one or two riders on the same team. It makes for great viewing .... for the Rossi boppers but real racers want RACING, and hence why the sport will be totally ...... when Rossi does leave, because viewing figures will drop to about 10 people, sponsors and teams wont want to spend millions on advertising to those 10 people and only then can we hope to see the re-birth of GP bike racing.
I am sad Stoner is leaving, I am sad Spies is leaving, because both are world class riders who could put on a hell of a show given good equipment, and they have been bullied out of the paddock due to the bully boy tactics of the Valentino Rossi Bopper show.
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How has Stoner been forced out? He has a competitive bike underneath him, no-one forced him to retire.
I think he believes his own hype & wants the kudos now. Even Rossi whethered the same kind of criticism until he left Honda. It's just something every successful rider has to put up with. It's disappointing from Stoner, & along with looking at some old interviews I think it highlights his inflated sense of self worth, & toys out of the pram mentality. An over-reaction to having decent tyres taken away from him again. He should keep fighting & then the kudos would come his way.
Spies is another matter, I believe he has been ...... over, other people should be mindful of that. It has nothing to do with criticism outside the paddock, rather it seems to be one of the business decisions that Yamaha became fond of a couple of years ago.
I think he believes his own hype & wants the kudos now. Even Rossi whethered the same kind of criticism until he left Honda. It's just something every successful rider has to put up with. It's disappointing from Stoner, & along with looking at some old interviews I think it highlights his inflated sense of self worth, & toys out of the pram mentality. An over-reaction to having decent tyres taken away from him again. He should keep fighting & then the kudos would come his way.
Spies is another matter, I believe he has been ...... over, other people should be mindful of that. It has nothing to do with criticism outside the paddock, rather it seems to be one of the business decisions that Yamaha became fond of a couple of years ago.
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Cummon 22. With your super kart experience you must know that BS comes hand in hand with the upper echelons of ANY sport, motor or otherwise. Casey's leaving has/had nothing to do with Vale and everything to do with his experiences with Ducati, Honda and Dorna, starting with Ducati/Marboro treatment during his illness.
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