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Lorenzo: We need something...

I love this Forum.. You guys preach ........ all the time too and yet when someone else new to the forum has a different way of thinking than you and doesn't like stoner...Well than this guy must be told he's not welcomed in someway. Yellow tainted? noooo... sounds more like Stonerish tainted glases to me.

Nice to see the boppers lining up to suck the new and recently escaped prison .....'s ..... With a welcome like that, who needs hong kong?



Btw, u can add all the aliases u want from ur friends, it wont make Rossi any faster.
 
Oh boo-hoo.



Wrong, GP's were telecast even in the colonies back then Dopehead.



Wrong, I am new to the site, and due to the nature of my work it is a requirement that more than three brain cells be present at any one time.



By these coments, you blokes haven't



a) been watching GP's for very long.



b)only like opinions that match your own. ( much back slapping, and gee, what we don't know just ain't ain't worth knowing !...just ask us !)



c) have less brain cells than you accuse others of having.



...and Jumkie, by your signature of Nicky being a personal tester.....he's a great guy, and a damn good rider, but your statement is rather unsettling.....do you want to ask him out or something?







Every team has a one and two rider.



Beattie to Doohan, Kosinski to Rainey, DeRadigues , Barros, Magee and Beatie to Schwantz.......what the hell was Nicky when Stoner was there ??? equal ??? ha



They may get the same, or inferior equipment....who really knows besides them ??.....not me, and unless you work in the Ducati team....not you.



Every second rider ( or driver) from the day racing started has complained of inferior equipment. Nicky is riding as well as he ever has ( well better than the lack of giving a .... and arse reaming Honda gave him), and your statement is making excuses for him that he's not even claiming. He's said he's happier than he's been in a long time ( press release and TV)



Maybe you know something we don't.







Even Gardner was second fidle( and not expected to do more than make up the numbers) to Spencer until Freddie's carpel tunnel syndrome started playing up.......oh , hang on....that was 1986, and apparently I hadn't seen a GP back then.



Hey Dopehead, have you even heard of guys like Raymond Roche, Christian Sarron( and His Brother Domonique), Didere DeRadigues, Angel Nieto ( other than when Rossi picked him up and doubled him, with you going "Whaaa....who's dat ol' man ?") Franco Uncini,Carlos Lavado, Mike Baldwin,Rob mcelnae, Rocket Ron Haslam, Pier Francesco Chilli, Johny wickstrom,Anton Mang....and guess what, Fausto Gresini used to ride, not just manage/run a team !!! amazing hey!.............I think Sito Pons was riding 250's then as well....but my memories not what it used to be.....



But those were the days when Mamola used to ride for Roberts, not double people on the back of a Duck.







Ohhhh..your ignore list........now, where did I put that box of Kleenex ?



I thought there might be some great chit-chat and exchanging of opinions and knowledge on this site, but alas......unless we have the same opinion as you blokes, we're all ......s without a brain cell or relevant experience.



Ho hum.





Haha nice post and welcome to the forum.





 
Nice to see the boppers lining up to suck the new and recently escaped prison .....'s ..... With a welcome like that, who needs hong kong?



Btw, u can add all the aliases u want from ur friends, it wont make Rossi any faster.



Take the glasses off man your starting to scare yourself.
 
Scratch that keep them on brother, don't want to know the fake you... Rossi Rossi Rossi Rossi.. ha ha i'm starting to believe you really have a problem with him Jums. Remind me again what happened that night you and him met outside his trailer?
 
Talking to urself ptk 50-IQ? We all know its ur additional alias. U dont fool anybody. Same .... takes as usual under another name.
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Jumkie,

You've just got to make up your mind - either there's a horde of boppers (term warped by Jumkie & Co for anybody who doesn't directly & exclusively worship Stoner) out there OR there's just one Rossi fan with a whole bunch of aliases. FYI - Fred and ptk50 really are two different people, who just happen to disagree with most of your opinions. Did Rossi do something really bad to you - you can tell it in the forum - we'll keep your dark secret
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Cheese and ....... rice !!!!!!!





......these blokes actually think we're the same person ??





BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA





You know what ? they may be onto something !!!!





We are all alien clones out of Area 51, sent out to spread the word that our Leader ( Rossi ) is the best, and should become the chosen leader of Earth, thus completing our takeover !!!!





What a bunch of paranoid people you are.



Is it really that hard to concieve there is more than one person in the world with a different opinion to yours ???





Guess what numpties..........it's not only possible, it's ....... reality !!!!!!!!!!!





......same person...........haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa.............you prawns.





It's entertainment folks...............not a life or death ....... struggle.............you know,..........sport....... you only have do it if you like it.......it's not like government or taxes.





OOOOHHH !! OOOHHH!! OOOHHH!!..........SOMEBODY DOESN'T SUPPORT THE SAME IDEALS AS I DO !!!!!! THEY MUST BE TOLD !!!....THEY MUST BE RIDICULED !!!!!......WE MUST SHOUT THEM DOWN FROM ATOP OUR LOFTY PEAK, HERE , ON THE SHOULDER OF GOD





You know what........I'm starting to believe in re-incarnation........... didn't you blokes work for the Spanish branch of the Catholic church between 1480 and 1834 ?





same person.......what a ....... laugh.







PS.......I'm not a Rossi fan, so to speak.......I enjoy watching a good race, I happen to think they're all good bloody riders.





Some are just whinging little bloody sooks.



To be honest, I'm looking forward and waiting to see what the likes of Spies, Crutchlow and Simoncelli can get up to.



All depends who they ride for though, dunnit ?





Same person........grow up !!
 
Dude, you are ....... hilarious. I'd like to meet you. When are your visiting hours?

Nice of you to google a list of former riders. You sound like you missed your medication this morning. But its ok, the patient wards will be by soon, lights out. Have a nice nap.



He is very funny. About time a bit of humour came back to the site. It's been pretty dry lately.
 
Ta woody....at least someone gets it



I didn't goole the riders Jumkie,you toss pot.



They were the people on the posters in my room,on the TV , and in the bike mags, as a kid.



I never saw a Sheene/Roberts/Spencer race............unfortunately



Started watching the Year Wayne Gardner got the Honda ride..........and have done ever since.
 
Nice to see the boppers lining up to suck the new and recently escaped prison .....'s ..... With a welcome like that, who needs hong kong?



Btw, u can add all the aliases u want from ur friends, it wont make Rossi any faster.

As they say in racing " As long as you beat your team mate"!.
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Cheese and ....... rice !!!!!!!





......these blokes actually think we're the same person ??





BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA





You know what ? they may be onto something !!!!





We are all alien clones out of Area 51, sent out to spread the word that our Leader ( Rossi ) is the best, and should become the chosen leader of Earth, thus completing our takeover !!!!





What a bunch of paranoid people you are.



Is it really that hard to concieve there is more than one person in the world with a different opinion to yours ???





Guess what numpties..........it's not only possible, it's ....... reality !!!!!!!!!!!





......same person...........haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa.............you prawns.





It's entertainment folks...............not a life or death ....... struggle.............you know,..........sport....... you only have do it if you like it.......it's not like government or taxes.





OOOOHHH !! OOOHHH!! OOOHHH!!..........SOMEBODY DOESN'T SUPPORT THE SAME IDEALS AS I DO !!!!!! THEY MUST BE TOLD !!!....THEY MUST BE RIDICULED !!!!!......WE MUST SHOUT THEM DOWN FROM ATOP OUR LOFTY PEAK, HERE , ON THE SHOULDER OF GOD





You know what........I'm starting to believe in re-incarnation........... didn't you blokes work for the Spanish branch of the Catholic church between 1480 and 1834 ?





same person.......what a ....... laugh.







PS.......I'm not a Rossi fan, so to speak.......I enjoy watching a good race, I happen to think they're all good bloody riders.





Some are just whinging little bloody sooks.



To be honest, I'm looking forward and waiting to see what the likes of Spies, Crutchlow and Simoncelli can get up to.



All depends who they ride for though, dunnit ?





Same person........grow up !!

As always, any whinging by stoner is vastly exceeded by whinging about his whinging by those of your ilk. Look up the word irony, a concept with which you seem unfamiliar.



Stoner has mainly been vilified as a whinger because of two incidents, one this year where he was taken out by an egregious riding error, and another some years ago in what was otherwise a magnificent race by rossi which also hinged on an error which would have also taken stoner out if not for rather prompt evasive action. I actually thought myself at the time that stoner whinged too much about the laguna incident (not a pass, the laguna lose being a better descriptor), but reaction to the jerez torpedo has justified him in retrospect. As stoner no doubt appreciates, if rossi got jb to shoot out stoner's tyres you guys would doubtless acclaim it as further evidence of tactical brilliance and call stoner a whinger for complaining about it.



I like stoner's current approach, he has actually managed to needle the ace needler this year, and given his recent level of performance is hardly in dire need of defence from his fans. If he continues to perform like mick doohan I see no reason why he can't whinge like mick as well if he sees fit, particularly since one man's whinging seems to be another man's frank appraisal of health/injury issues and equipment deficiencies.
 
Oh boo-hoo.



Wrong, GP's were telecast even in the colonies back then Dopehead.



Wrong, I am new to the site, and due to the nature of my work it is a requirement that more than three brain cells be present at any one time.



By these coments, you blokes haven't



a) been watching GP's for very long.



b)only like opinions that match your own. ( much back slapping, and gee, what we don't know just ain't ain't worth knowing !...just ask us !)



c) have less brain cells than you accuse others of having.



...and Jumkie, by your signature of Nicky being a personal tester.....he's a great guy, and a damn good rider, but your statement is rather unsettling.....do you want to ask him out or something?







Every team has a one and two rider.



Beattie to Doohan, Kosinski to Rainey, DeRadigues , Barros, Magee and Beatie to Schwantz.......what the hell was Nicky when Stoner was there ??? equal ??? ha



They may get the same, or inferior equipment....who really knows besides them ??.....not me, and unless you work in the Ducati team....not you.



Every second rider ( or driver) from the day racing started has complained of inferior equipment. Nicky is riding as well as he ever has ( well better than the lack of giving a .... and arse reaming Honda gave him), and your statement is making excuses for him that he's not even claiming. He's said he's happier than he's been in a long time ( press release and TV)



Maybe you know something we don't.







Even Gardner was second fidle( and not expected to do more than make up the numbers) to Spencer until Freddie's carpel tunnel syndrome started playing up.......oh , hang on....that was 1986, and apparently I hadn't seen a GP back then.



Hey Dopehead, have you even heard of guys like Raymond Roche, Christian Sarron( and His Brother Domonique), Didere DeRadigues, Angel Nieto ( other than when Rossi picked him up and doubled him, with you going "Whaaa....who's dat ol' man ?") Franco Uncini,Carlos Lavado, Mike Baldwin,Rob mcelnae, Rocket Ron Haslam, Pier Francesco Chilli, Johny wickstrom,Anton Mang....and guess what, Fausto Gresini used to ride, not just manage/run a team !!! amazing hey!.............I think Sito Pons was riding 250's then as well....but my memories not what it used to be.....



But those were the days when Mamola used to ride for Roberts, not double people on the back of a Duck.







Ohhhh..your ignore list........now, where did I put that box of Kleenex ?



I thought there might be some great chit-chat and exchanging of opinions and knowledge on this site, but alas......unless we have the same opinion as you blokes, we're all ......s without a brain cell or relevant experience.



Ho hum.



So your first few posts are just abusive ............great. Welcome!



I have no problem with people having different opinions to one another....each to his own and diversity is a great thing. I do have problems with posters who only like to stir ........like yourself. At least be ....... original....Fred Gassit (the real one) rules, but you are just an opinionated loudmouth who has plagiarised the humour of someone far smarter and far funnier.



Well thats my take on your first few contributions anyway.
 
As always, any whinging by stoner is vastly exceeded by whinging about his whinging by those of your ilk. Look up the word irony, a concept with which you seem unfamiliar.



Stoner has mainly been vilified as a whinger because of two incidents, one this year where he was taken out by an egregious riding error, and another some years ago in what was otherwise a magnificent race by rossi which also hinged on an error which would have also taken stoner out if not for rather prompt evasive action. I actually thought myself at the time that stoner whinged too much about the laguna incident (not a pass, the laguna lose being a better descriptor), but reaction to the jerez torpedo has justified him in retrospect. As stoner no doubt appreciates, if rossi got jb to shoot out stoner's tyres those of your ilk would doubtless acclaim it as further evidence of tactical brilliance and call stoner a whinger for complaining about it.



I like stoner's current approach, he has actually managed to needle the ace needler this year, and is hardly in need of defence from his fans if he continues his current performance level, and if he continues to perform like mick doohan i see no reason why he can't whinge like mick as well if he sees fit.



This is what amazes me when people say Doohan never whined.....my recollection was he was always complaining about slower riders getting in his way, people getting tows and teammates stealing his setup data......much like the complaints we hear from Stoner, Rossi and basically many of the other riders these days.



However, when it came to the injuries he sustained he was incredibly brave and rarely mentioned it....unlike Rossi who gives daily updates on an injury he received 14 months ago.....and he calls these other guys who are at present kicking his arse ...........go figure.
 
Cheese and ....... rice !!!!!!!





......these blokes actually think we're the same person ??





BWAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA





You know what ? they may be onto something !!!!





We are all alien clones out of Area 51, sent out to spread the word that our Leader ( Rossi ) is the best, and should become the chosen leader of Earth, thus completing our takeover !!!!





What a bunch of paranoid people you are.



Is it really that hard to concieve there is more than one person in the world with a different opinion to yours ???





Guess what numpties..........it's not only possible, it's ....... reality !!!!!!!!!!!





......same person...........haaaaaaa haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaa.............you prawns.





It's entertainment folks...............not a life or death ....... struggle.............you know,..........sport....... you only have do it if you like it.......it's not like government or taxes.





OOOOHHH !! OOOHHH!! OOOHHH!!..........SOMEBODY DOESN'T SUPPORT THE SAME IDEALS AS I DO !!!!!! THEY MUST BE TOLD !!!....THEY MUST BE RIDICULED !!!!!......WE MUST SHOUT THEM DOWN FROM ATOP OUR LOFTY PEAK, HERE , ON THE SHOULDER OF GOD





You know what........I'm starting to believe in re-incarnation........... didn't you blokes work for the Spanish branch of the Catholic church between 1480 and 1834 ?





same person.......what a ....... laugh.







PS.......I'm not a Rossi fan, so to speak.......I enjoy watching a good race, I happen to think they're all good bloody riders.





Some are just whinging little bloody sooks.



To be honest, I'm looking forward and waiting to see what the likes of Spies, Crutchlow and Simoncelli can get up to.



All depends who they ride for though, dunnit ?





Same person........grow up !!

Not intelligent enough to be roger. Talpa far more likely.
 
This is what amazes me when people say Doohan never whined.....my recollection was he was always complaining about slower riders getting in his way, people getting tows and teammates stealing his setup data......much like the complaints we hear from Stoner, Rossi and basically many of the other riders these days.



However, when it came to the injuries he sustained he was incredibly brave and rarely mentioned it....unlike Rossi who gives daily updates on an injury he received 14 months ago.....and he calls these other guys who are at present kicking his arse ...........go figure.

Yes, mick was well known to whinge but from a position of strength, usually whinging after he won. He was notably unkeen on other riders seeking tows, alex criville in particular.



His courage was never in doubt ( as stoner's isn't I would have thought, valentino and jb having tacitly admitted winning on that thing the way it was more or less required risking death), and I have always thought valentino wouldn't have tried the laguna seca move on mick, mick being bloody minded enough to have let alex crash into him on at least one occasion just to make a point.
 
Dear oh dear...you've all missed the point.



I don't like Stoners attitude ....so what.



Doohan whinged even louder than Stoner....didn't like him either. but man did he suck up that injury...never used it as an excuse.



Who gives a toss who I do or don't like.



It matters .... all......same as who you do or don't like.



I am not a Rossi fan.





My point is, I am sick of the crying and whinging at the Table after the race by any rider. Can't we have a good solid race ? without crying. everyone can see what went on , and will draw their own cnclusions based on who they support.



Stop trying to make everyone agree with your opinion. I can dislike Stoner if I choose.





I am only ........ if I question his riding ability.......which I never have.







In days gone by ( Schwantz and Rainey in particular).....they would keep the niggling between themselves, and sort it out on the track.



Doohan was probably the first ( depends on whether Biaggi's constant moaning was worth listening to/valid) and started all this sooky stuff.



You get paid lots of money to ride....so ride.



That's my opinion, and like yours, matters .... all.



I ( like yourselves) are not living that life, so our opinions matter .... all.



Who cares if you support Spies, Rossi, Stoner, Pedrosa, Lorenzo or that silly french sausage. Each to their own.



PS, go back and read my first post. So I don't like Stoner....so what.....if people want to deride me for not supporting who they support (and then woose out and delete/change their posts) and sling insults....well .... them...I'll fire back. Should I cower down to the might of so called superior opinions. Screw that.



I'm up for some good, healthy debate,..........but if you throw a rock at me just for not falling into line with your opinion, and start with insults rather than an intelligent retort, I'll pick you up on it and throw a ....... boulder back.



Who slung the first personal attack ??



All our opinions are speculative.



get over it.



PS...Schwantz ..... on all of them !
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