Lorenzo to Ducati!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MdubSTYLIE @ Aug 20 2009, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They weren't to happy with the Marlboro man when he got lung cancer.
Actually two of them did. The original, became an anti smoking crusader, and later died of lung cancer. The final incumbent also succumbed to lung cancer.

It's hard to think of a bigger PR/corporate disaster, apart from maybe one of the original Ronald McDonald's becoming a militant vegetarian in the early nineties.

Valentino used to slate tobacco sponsorship in sport, and insisted that he'd never ride for a cigarette company....that is until he switched to Yamaha who already had a lucrative deal with altadis in place - which was later stubbed out, - but Gauloise and Camel can leave a nasty 'yellow' stain, and the stench lingered for a while. Still, no different from that ....... Jamie Oliver campaigning against the supermarkets, and then subsequently accepting a £2m per year Sainsbury's advertising deal. Christ only knows what it's worth now.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (two-stroke @ Aug 20 2009, 07:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>So, who is Lorenzo replacing, Hayden or Stoner?
Kropotkin has Hayden being shown the door. He also goes on to say that Rossi has given Yamaha the green light to put Hayden on the Fiat Yamaha team.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bonnielass @ Aug 20 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I had presumed it was Stoner, because I think his contracts up at the end of this season, but who knows.....this is by far the silly season I've ever known!
I believe Stoner is already sorted to drive ducati in 2010.I think if lorenzo goes to ducati it will be more than likely that we will see hayden on yamaha which is good for yamaha as a business point of view as well.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Aug 20 2009, 09:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I believe Stoner is already sorted to drive ducati in 2010.I think if lorenzo goes to ducati it will be more than likely that we will see hayden on yamaha which is good for yamaha as a business point of view as well.
I still doubt Lorenzo would do it. Hes good, but would he be so money hungry as to kill his career on a Ducati? I wonder how much this lowball offer has to do with Rossi? I bet he would love to see Lorenzo go. Jorge is the only one with enough clout to demand 'near' equal specs to Rossi, and i don't think this makes Vale pleased.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I still doubt Lorenzo would do it. Hes good, but would he be so money hungry as to kill his career on a Ducati?

I can't see Horhay jumping on the Duc at the minute, even if the money was better.
His star is in the ascendency. His best chance to earn the big pay day is to be world champ ( and probably beat #46 in the process )
It looks like his best chance of that happening is with his ... firmly planted on a Yamaha. He ain't gonna win it this year, but man he has got a great shot in 2010.

Last year, ya went to the Lorenzo trade stands at a GP and you could get what ya want. This year, #99 stands are getting as packed as VR's. He is building a rep, a brand and what looks like a pretty decent career for himself. Not sure its all worth risking by jumping ship just yet...Patience my boy

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (inam @ Aug 20 2009, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I believe Stoner is already sorted to drive ducati in 2010.I think if lorenzo goes to ducati it will be more than likely that we will see hayden on yamaha which is good for yamaha as a business point of view as well.

Despite all the rumours, I can't see Lorenzo want to take a back seat to Stoner, he'll want to be the number 1 rider.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2009, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I still doubt Lorenzo would do it. Hes good, but would he be so money hungry as to kill his career on a Ducati? I wonder how much this lowball offer has to do with Rossi? I bet he would love to see Lorenzo go. Jorge is the only one with enough clout to demand 'near' equal specs to Rossi, and i don't think this makes Vale pleased.

I think it would be a really bad move to go to Ducati, Honda would be a better choice IMO, but the best choice would be to stay put and learn some more from the Goat!

come on Lorenzo, be smart

I cant decide if i want lorenzo to go....i like him on a yamaha but i'd like to see him beat stoner on the same bike...hmmm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Aug 20 2009, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I cant decide if i want lorenzo to go....i like him on a yamaha but i'd like to see him beat stoner on the same bike...hmmm

Haha, yeah. I'd much rather see Rossi on a Ducati though. Now that would answer alot more questions.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2009, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Haha, yeah. I'd much rather see Rossi on a Ducati though. Now that would answer alot more questions.

sure would...as a rossi fan i wanna say he'd win anyway, but we'll most likely never find out. I remember him saying that he already experienced a career move like that and wasnt planning on doing it again (dont remember where tho).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ngads @ Aug 20 2009, 07:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>sure would...as a rossi fan i wanna say he'd win anyway, but we'll most likely never find out. I remember him saying that he already experienced a career move like that and wasnt planning on doing it again (dont remember where tho).
I believe Rossi has said he wants to be known as a Yamaha man, and certainly Yamaha Corp. wants him to be known as a Yamaha Legend.

Okay the word on the spanish web and radio is that Lorenzo HAS signed to Ducati for 2 years.
Sorry if someone has already posted that but i couldn't be asked to read from page 3 where i was at last and only just found out that

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (undeadprincess @ Aug 20 2009, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Okay the word on the spanish web and radio is that Lorenzo HAS signed to Ducati for 2 years.
Sorry if someone has already posted that but i couldn't be asked to read from page 3 where i was at last and only just found out that
Link please

BTW, if this is true, you can give Rossi another title to go with this 09. His only challenger will be Stoner (if he comes back from injury).

Chad Reed anyone?

I just looked at AS and Marca and didn't see anything official yet, only that Ducati has made the €13 million over two year offer.

found this then theres a link to motocuatro.??

<a href="http://www.motocuatro.com/noticia.php?idNoticia=300" target="_blankmotocuatro
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translation? ^^

Ducati has allegedly handed Lorenzo a very generous monetary offer to ride for the Bologna team for the next two seasons, replacing the ill and questionable Casey Stoner. Reliable sources are now stating that Lorenzo and Marlboro/Ducati have come to a basic agreement, and that a deal could be announced at the Indianapolis GP.

Spanish paper,Motocuatro, is reporting that the deal between Jorge Lorenzo and Marlboro has been agreed to in principle, with the finer details of the contract still being ironed out. They also report that the figures being floated around would make Jorge Lorenzo the second highest paid rider in MotoGP, right behind current teammate Valentino Rossi.

This would therefore suggest the €7 million figure we quoted earlier as being in the ballpark of reality, and again nearly double what Fiat-Yamaha was willing to pay.

Also emerging in the news, is the apparent lack of concern Stoner had for his team regarding his decision to sit out the Brno, Indy, and San Marion GP’s. Apparently, the former champion did no consult anyone on the factory Ducati team, giving only a weeks notice of his decision. For tobacco sponsor Marlboro, this was the final straw in a long line of poor performances for the Australian outside of the race track.

Stoner has avoided and shirked his sponsorship duties, even sitting out post-race press conferences where he wasn’t a podium finisher. For a company like Marlboro, which foots a substantial part of Stoner’s salary, this lack of return on their investment must certainly be intolerable, and it begins to shape the understanding of why they would pay such a high price for Lorenzo. More on this as it unfolds.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Aug 20 2009, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just looked at AS and Marca and didn't see anything official yet, only that Ducati has made the €13 million over two year offer.

The thing is, Yamaha doesn't seem to be reacting. I'd I say this whole thing is orchestrated. I just don't know from where? If I was Lorenzo's agent, having other suitors would be welcome in the negotiations with Yamaha (where I think he wants to remains, just paid better).

Jumkie, didn't Hayden sign a 2 year contract with Ducati, that is the standard contract isn't it?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumkie @ Aug 20 2009, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Link please

BTW, if this is true, you can give Rossi another title to go with this 09. His only challenger will be Stoner (if he comes back from injury).

Chad Reed anyone?

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/2768/has...d-ducatis-offer

The website also has links to the spanish sites but as i don't read spanish i don't actually know what it says and if it gives anymore info!

Yup if it is true Rossi will win again next year and have 10 world championships which is a nice number to retire on i think. Saying that if Hayden swaps seats with Lorenzo then he could be up with the top guys again and give him a good run for his money a little too much wishful thinking eh.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (undeadprincess @ Aug 20 2009, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/2768/has...d-ducatis-offer

The website also has links to the spanish sites but as i don't read spanish i don't actually know what it says and if it gives anymore info!

Yup if it is true Rossi will win again next year and have 10 world championships which is a nice number to retire on i think. Saying that if Hayden swaps seats with Lorenzo then he could be up with the top guys again and give him a good run for his money a little too much wishful thinking eh.

Yep, and that will give him 8 championships in a row, another Aggo record under threat!

Ducati have an option on keeping Hayden & that has to be taken up on or before 1st september 2009.