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I understand that. And agree that outside of the u.s. it would be hard to understand the latino american issue that i going on here. Peoples opinion of it here are more unique than each snow flake, I don't believe anyone has the same opinion about what to do. And some are outright hateful for no real reason. You may have only met one in Australia but you've had conversations with more than a few on this site. Mexicans love motogp and have been some of the best members here. I think I miss Calikid more than any other member. And unfortunately these terms also offend him just by being used.

I was talking about Barry’s attitude, not mine, he lives outside big city Australia, I live in Sydney, and have been to the USA probably 25 times, on most occasions spending time in LA where a friend has family, and have a hopefully somewhat nuanced view, and am, also hopefully, not in the habit of belittling Mexicans or what they have to deal with in the USA.
 
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I was talking about Barry’s attitude, not mine., he lives outside big city Australia, I live in Sydney, and have been to the USA probably 25 times, on most occasions spending time in LA where a friend has family, and have a hopefully somewhat nuanced view, and am, also hopefully, not in the habit of belittling Mexicans or what they have to deal with in the USA.

I was aware, I guess I didn't specify that what I understood was why barry didn't get it. But I know you do. Its touchy situation in america to understand why Latinos are coming here but yet still have concerns. I am lucky enough to have a friend I can ask the touchy question to. He knows I just seek the opinion of why Latinos do what they do, so I can have a better understanding. And I am grateful for that.
 
Considering his "exploits" in Sri Lanka, he would not go down well with any PS members with kids. :happy:

Didn't know about Hauer's soliloquy. Very cool. Amazing how many bad films and TV shows have been made trying, (and failing) to copy the art direction and ambience of that film.

Exactly. One of my best friends is Sri Lankan.
 
Absolutely white privilege is a real thing. I don't think either of use have the solution but I have an opinion that white people deciding what is offensive for another race an be detrimental to making things better. We don't need more racist term we need less. I get that your close ties to Indian culture make that a hot bottom term to call you, thats why he did it. But the reason I have the opinion about what he said was just summed up very well by JK, the word curry is still acceptable. So coming up with a term using it to offend you isn't actually racist. Offensive for sure. But not the same as monkey, ......, or dot head. Those are terrible terms and I would not be okay with him using them against you or anyone else. Your reaction to the term curryfat can set the direction of the meaning. Blow it off and its just dust in the wind.

It's not "the word" per se. It's all about context. The word Mexican and the word monkey are not by themselves racially offensive. The word curry is frequently used by adding it on to another phrase and when applied with unmistakable derision we're talking race baiting. It's not that subtle. It's like when certain Southerners pointedly use the expression "New York politics" as code for "Jewish politics".

In the event - I'm all done with that. I rarely hold grudges. Anytime Synn (I know yer listening) wants to start afresh, I'm here.
 
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It's not "the word" per se. It's all about context. The word Mexican and the word monkey are not by themselves racially offensive. The word curry is frequently used by adding it on to another phrase and when applied with unmistakable derision we're talking race baiting. It's not that subtle. It's like when certain Southerners pointedly use the expression "New York politics" as code for "Jewish politics".

In the event - I'm all done with that. I rarely hold grudges. Anytime Synn (I know yer listening) wants to start afresh, I'm here.

Yes Mexican Monkey is racially offensive you mental midget. Just because separately they aren't doesn't make what you said any less offensive. Keep trying to minimize Christian.
 
Yes Mexican Monkey is racially offensive you mental midget. Just because separately they aren't doesn't make what you said any less offensive. Keep trying to minimize Christian.

Dave, I know I've made some very poor decisions recently,
but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.

 
Dave, I know I've made some very poor decisions recently,
but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal.
I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you.


Want to keep playing games Christian?

We're going to play one of mine real soon buddy.
 
Want to keep playing games Christian?

We're going to play one of mine real soon buddy.

This is all dying down. You're just revisiting things that have been discussed ad nauseum. Why are you so invested in dragging this out? What do you hope to accomplish? What good can come of it? Do you enjoy being so angry? It should be clear that I'm trying not to engage, avoiding insults and threats that only act to further inflame. Every right minded person is by now tired of this topic. It's been done to death and I hate having to repeat myself. I don't have time for it. I'm getting ready to enjoy the race at Catalunya and packing my bags for Assen.
 
I understand your position as well, and felt the same at one time, and I strongly suspect as you say he wouldn't address you in the fashion he does in person, and possibly not me either, while not as physically formidable as you no doubt are I haven't found that people rush to pick fights with me on the street either.

Synn can't really personally insult you or me though because we have never met, and we all three are anonymous posters on the internet, and while I agree talk is cheap and it is easy to be a keyboard warrior, insults from the likes of Synn are not really personal when it comes down to it.

The background conflict, in regard to which Synn I would agree deserves blame for re-stoking, stems from the people involved having spent a race week-end together and is truly personal involving information not gained from posting on this forum.
I was trying to stay out of all this but feel compelled to offer my 2 cents,in light of the hospitality shown by Jumkie i think the 'rusty motorhome' comment is totally unacceptable and beggars belief,Jumkie..if you read this please accept my apologies for any criticism i have levelled in your direction regarding the ongoing feud on here,perhaps you guys have it right and condemnation is absolutely necessary..
 
I was trying to stay out of all this but feel compelled to offer my 2 cents,in light of the hospitality shown by Jumkie i think the 'rusty motorhome' comment is totally unacceptable and beggars belief,Jumkie..if you read this please accept my apologies for any criticism i have levelled in your direction regarding the ongoing feud on here,perhaps you guys have it right and condemnation is absolutely necessary..

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I only wish i had a motorhome..rusty or not...i would just call it patina anyway and it would add to the coolness....

Yeah but that one in the picture is more like ...... saltina

Or maybe with your ĺove of all things south ...... it has an aire of pat ... agonia to it. :D
 
His intent is to get under Keshavs skin. Mission accomplish. Making more of it is in poor taste and just flames the fire. But thats the thing about opinions about racism, they are never just black and white. No pun intended.

The intent of the worst of trolls is always to get under someone’s skin, in extreme cases by whatever means necessary, including but not limited to racism. Insults are insults, intended to bring their adversary down a peg or two in front of their peers. Embarrass, shame, lower self esteem. Online bullying, the techno iPhone age where kids actually suffer depression and suicide over words in cyberspace. If you happen to be an ‘old fart’ like me (about Rossi’s age) there is some perspective of a prehistoric age where adversaries had to be engaged face to face, meaning having to maybe bite your tongue rather than cop a flogging. No I’m not referring to when I met my wife. It wasn’t until the second date she sought out who’s boss. Just kidding honey.

Shouldn’t make light of this though, it’s a serious problem. Imo the best solution is to disengage rather than retaliate or even waste time discussing. This feeding the trolls phenomenon is sucking all the oxygen out of this place. Damn shame really because I absolutely love racing and enjoy the company of all those that share my addiction. Go Dovi, ....... legend of a man, prediction championship will be back on track this round with a win.
 
The intent of the worst of trolls is always to get under someone’s skin, in extreme cases by whatever means necessary, including but not limited to racism. Insults are insults, intended to bring their adversary down a peg or two in front of their peers. Embarrass, shame, lower self esteem. Online bullying, the techno iPhone age where kids actually suffer depression and suicide over words in cyberspace. If you happen to be an ‘old fart’ like me (about Rossi’s age) there is some perspective of a prehistoric age where adversaries had to be engaged face to face, meaning having to maybe bite your tongue rather than cop a flogging. No I’m not referring to when I met my wife. It wasn’t until the second date she sought out who’s boss. Just kidding honey.

Shouldn’t make light of this though, it’s a serious problem. Imo the best solution is to disengage rather than retaliate or even waste time discussing. This feeding the trolls phenomenon is sucking all the oxygen out of this place. Damn shame really because I absolutely love racing and enjoy the company of all those that share my addiction. Go Dovi, ....... legend of a man, prediction championship will be back on track this round with a win.

You're not an old fart..you haven't passed 40 yet..i've just passed 50..i'm not sure if i'm an old fart either..i still feel 18 in my head...still act like a .... and check out young chicks when i'm old enough to be their dad..still pulling wheelies everywhere and copping speeding tickets far too regularly..still playing guitar in a band even though i know it will never go further than pub gigs.........maybe i am an old fart..
 
^Never going to happen..so long as i can get my leg over the latest hot poop missile i'll put up with the aches and pains when i get off..i find alcohol works wonders..
 
^Never going to happen..so long as i can get my leg over the latest hot poop missile i'll put up with the aches and pains when i get off..i find alcohol works wonders..

Haha tell me about it. That feeling of getting off a super sport, out of your leathers, crawling your way to the couch and sitting down with a single malt.

Priceless. Don’t think I will ever get too old for that.
 

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