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Shovel's Club
Joined May 2009
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Shovel's Club
So you are saying you would walk into a black bar with a white mate and start vociferously calling him black racist slurs?
Good luck with that then!
Also remembering that the black customers would be totally innocent to whatever the beef was .... but would understand that you feel its fine to use such slurs which suggests that they are indeed .... examples of that slur or even slur-worthy?
Nup .... thats pretty .....
You missed the point. I would walk into a black bar with my white mates and make fun of my white friends. I'd call them crackers and no black people are going to approach the table and ask my friend if this guy is offending you?
Also we don't have black bars in america. Well we do, but that would just describe as a bar that was painted black. If I happen to go to a bar and sit by a table of black people then yes, I would call my friends crackers and yes they are aloud to laugh.
Bottom line is things are bad for Mexicans and pretty much those of Mexican extraction in the USA as far as I can tell.
I have personal vignettes about pretty much the only prominent person of Mexican extraction ever to come to Australia, which I won’t post. I defended Barry because I believed his comment to be innocent, there isn’t any prejudice against Mexicans in Australia, very possibly only because there are virtually no Mexicans, even though most of the Australian posters on here are likely white guys who resemble the white guys who have the attitude against Mexicans in the USA.
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Norah Head
But synn is in a public place calling a white guy non-white racial slurs ..... thats true racism.
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Shovel's Club
I disagree. I feel he came up with a term to get under keshavs skin. Curry in itself is not racist. Using it to describe a white man by a white man can't be racism. Offensive sure, but this is powerslide. If you start to label a word as racist than you cannot use it, and curry is not that. An example of that would be the word ....... You cannot use it in anyway shape or form in america.
Example:Lansing, Mich., September 15, 2007 — ......’S COFFEE, the third-largest retail coffee chain in the Midwest, today announces its plan to re-brand the company to BIGGBY COFFEE. The change will be inclusive of all 79 of ......’S current stores, in addition to those currently under construction. The storewide conversion is expected to be complete by January 31, 2008.
......’S COFFEE is the largest 100 percent operator-owned retail coffee franchise in the U.S. and is among the fastest-growing franchises in the nation. Entrepreneur Magazine included ......’s among its 2007 list of top franchises opportunities. As the company has grown from a single store to a regional chain, the need for a new name became evident amidst growing concerns over the use of the word “......” as a disparaging term against Hispanic Americans.
“As we’ve continued to expand into new markets, we’ve heard more and more comments about our name, to the point that we had to take a hard look at changing it,” said Bob Fish, ......’S CEO and co-founder. “We ultimately felt we would be condoning the use of a disparaging term if we chose to do nothing.”
“I understand that ......’s loyalists might have a hard time with the name change, but at the end of the day, we believe our customers will be supportive of our choice to do the right thing,” said Fish. “What matters most is that the store experience will be exactly the same, only our name will be different.”
......’S plans to utilize an “inside-out” approach to the conversion. BIGGBY COFFEE will appear first on its cups, shirts and in-store materials before exterior signage will be converted. The franchise will allow its stores to exhaust current supplies of paper cups and other printed materials in the interest of conservation.
......’S believed the most critical aspect to the success of the transition was to retain as much of its popular identity as possible. An outside consultant was retained to help with the naming process and BIGGBY was identified as a top choice. The new name is a clear reflection of the large orange letter “B,” that adorns its signs, cups and other merchandise.
......’S said it expects to invest nearly a million dollars in its re-branding effort.
About ......’S COFFEE/BIGGBY COFFEE:
......’S is the nation’s largest 100 percent operator-owned retail coffee franchise. The East Lansing, Mich.-based company began as a single location in 1995, and has since become one of the fastest growing franchises in the industry. ......’S currently has 77 retail locations throughout nine Midwest and Southeastern states including Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio, South Carolina and Wisconsin. More information can be found at www.........com or www.biggby.com.
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Norah Head
Ok I'll pit it simply ...... synn is saying that indians are a thing of detriment ...
Stupid to be saying it to Keshav .....
But also given he is intending these "stereotypes" as a slur ..... he is making a very incorrect, disgusting and immature slur against indians.
Theres no justification for it so dont try.
Stupid to be saying it to Keshav .....
But also given he is intending these "stereotypes" as a slur ..... he is making a very incorrect, disgusting and immature slur against indians.
Theres no justification for it so dont try.
Joined May 2009
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Shovel's Club
I understand that. And agree that outside of the u.s. it would be hard to understand the latino american issue that i going on here. Peoples opinion of it here are more unique than each snow flake, I don't believe anyone has the same opinion about what to do. And some are outright hateful for no real reason. You may have only met one in Australia but you've had conversations with more than a few on this site. Mexicans love motogp and have been some of the best members here. I think I miss Calikid more than any other member. And unfortunately these terms also offend him just by being used.
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Pomona NY
Considering his "exploits" in Sri Lanka, he would not go down well with any PS members with kids. :happy:
Didn't know about Hauer's soliloquy. Very cool. Amazing how many bad films and TV shows have been made trying, (and failing) to copy the art direction and ambience of that film.
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Shovel's Club
Ok I'll pit it simply ...... synn is saying that indians are a thing of detriment ...
Stupid to be saying it to Keshav .....
But also given he is intending these "stereotypes" as a slur ..... he is making a very incorrect, disgusting and immature slur against indians.
Theres no justification for it so dont try.
His intent is to get under Keshavs skin. Mission accomplish. Making more of it is in poor taste and just flames the fire. But thats the thing about opinions about racism, they are never just black and white. No pun intended.
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unda cheese
Using the term monkey to describe a person or persons in America has not been acceptable for a very long time. Unless the person being described is performing acrobatics that clearly mimic that of a monkey.
Scores of sports commentators have lost jobs because they have likened an athlete to a monkey. This has trickled down into society and people rarely use it because they know its now a term to express thinly veiled racism. Everyone knows this.
Even if Kancer called jum a monkey, the connotation would be have been very clear.
Adding the Mexican to it, was not even trying to hide his racism.
Is everyone going to ignore how Kancer is weaponizing personal information about JPS. Not one of you found it odd that he’s suddenly using JP’s real name after JP challenged him. Classic bully tactic. I notice JP hasn’t posted since he did this. I don’t know the reason but I do know he’s very private and the last person who did this to him, caused him to quit the forum for a while
Another example of Kancer trying to run people off who don’t agree with him
Scores of sports commentators have lost jobs because they have likened an athlete to a monkey. This has trickled down into society and people rarely use it because they know its now a term to express thinly veiled racism. Everyone knows this.
Even if Kancer called jum a monkey, the connotation would be have been very clear.
Adding the Mexican to it, was not even trying to hide his racism.
Is everyone going to ignore how Kancer is weaponizing personal information about JPS. Not one of you found it odd that he’s suddenly using JP’s real name after JP challenged him. Classic bully tactic. I notice JP hasn’t posted since he did this. I don’t know the reason but I do know he’s very private and the last person who did this to him, caused him to quit the forum for a while
Another example of Kancer trying to run people off who don’t agree with him
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Pomona NY
Thanks for being a reasonable human. You will note, that despite my protestations of innocence of intent, I have not ever repeated the use of the phrase after JKD posted that link. Once aware, that there was even a possibility of offending in that way, the expression was off the table.
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Shovel's Club
I specifically posted that using absolutely personal information, particularly when gained from actual real world encounters, was different than an anonymous keyboard warrior like Synn (if he is) abusing Pyeman and me, or vice versa.
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unda cheese
The words Rajesh, sitar, curry aren’t used in Indian culture anymore?
Kancer brags he lived in the one of the biggest slums in the world and complains that Jum housed and transported him in a a “rusty motorhome”
Everything that comes out of his mouth is hypocrisy
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Pomona NY
It's all about the idea of "White privilege" which has become a clarion phrase in modern discussion of race relations. I admit as a non-racist, I find it a tad trying at times, but realistically, White privilege is a thing. The pervasiveness of prejudice is all aspects of life will for a long time be "a thing" and the disadvantages that non-whites deal with every day is a much heavier burden than sometimes being mis or pre-judged. So yes sometimes it's irksome when someone appears to "play the race card" but that's a small thing to deal with and at the end of the day, guys like you and I get to go home and enjoy life without wondering if we're going to get shot for no reason at a traffic stop the next day.
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Shovel's Club
Absolutely white privilege is a real thing. I don't think either of use have the solution but I have an opinion that white people deciding what is offensive for another race an be detrimental to making things better. We don't need more racist term we need less. I get that your close ties to Indian culture make that a hot bottom term to call you, thats why he did it. But the reason I have the opinion about what he said was just summed up very well by JK, the word curry is still acceptable. So coming up with a term using it to offend you isn't actually racist. Offensive for sure. But not the same as monkey, ......, or dot head. Those are terrible terms and I would not be okay with him using them against you or anyone else. Your reaction to the term curryfat can set the direction of the meaning. Blow it off and its just dust in the wind.
