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povol said:
Trump isn’t popular with the LGBT community.
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Trump was extremely unpopular with the Manhattan voters. But up where I live now which is very rural - it’s Trump central; very red. Not sure of the relevance of the lgbt reference. Surely you don’t think all 8.5 million people in NY are gay.
 
Keshav said:
Trump was extremely unpopular with the Manhattan voters. But up where I live now which is very rural - it’s Trump central; very red. Not sure of the relevance of the lgbt reference. Surely you don’t think all 8.5 million people in NY are gay.
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Implied support without having the balls to say it outright.
I mean really... is anyone actually surprised?
 
Keshav said:
Trump was extremely unpopular with the Manhattan voters. But up where I live now which is very rural - it’s Trump central; very red. Not sure of the relevance of the lgbt reference. Surely you don’t think all 8.5 million people in NY are gay.
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No, not all, that would be silly. I’m sure if you try you can find a heterosexual here and there.
 
povol said:
No, not all, that would be silly. I’m sure if you try you can find a heterosexual here and there.
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Glad to see you still have your sense of humor Pov. In the same vein, I'm sure there's got to be a few people south of the Mason-Dixon who aren't card carrying Klan Members. Am I right?
 
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michaelm said:
No need, I completely understood your entirely rational explanation for why you feel no need to reprimand Synn, and particularly not in regard to attacks on Kesh by Synn, the level of insult being quantum levels apart where you yourself are concerned. I agree btw that Synn addressing him as ”Curryfart” while asinine is not racist.

I myself feel that I can take the odd shot at Synn who often makes calls on the accuracy of the posts of others, including mine, and has questioned my comprehension on multiple occasions for that matter, which was the point of my post, and it was Synn agreeing with an inaccurate statement which triggered me.

While far from the case with you obviously particularly in the context of what we are discussing, being called a Trump supporter would be worse than any insult that has ever been leveled at me since I joined the forum in 2007.
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I also try when possible to not get overly pedantic. That said, Synn did in fact get onto my website and knowing nothing about me, deduced that my name (or the name I've been known by for years) is derived from my past association with Hindu practices which I found at the time very enlightening; and the culture really wonderfully engrossing. I did for a period of time very much identify with the Bhakti practice, tho in time, I outgrew it. Synn tho, in his frat-boy mind thought to deride me by using numerous references to Hinduism because apparently, religion or spiritual practice is something to be ashamed of as I assume it's somehow anathema to racing. Having spent a lovely summer one year with a girl who lived in the Southall section of London which is heavily populated by Indians, I'm well acquainted with all the coded race-baiting expressions like dot-heads, towel heads and any number of words with "curry" tacked on, which are implicitly racist - because 95% of Indians are, or Identify as Hindus. He repeatedly used the phrase "Come again" which on the face of it is a harmless catch phrase used on "The Simpsons" tho because of Groening's sensitivity to criticism I understand they stopped using that catch phrase. About 18 years ago there was a well publicized uproar in the Indian community about Apu, the only Indian character on The Simpsons because he was portrayed as a sing-song, simple-minded dimwit. And the character was duly updated to not seem so silly. There's actually a scene in a movie from about 6 years ago, where two racist jerks behave obnoxiously in an Indian restaurant and one of them baits the waiter with the "Come again!" catchphrase and the waiter turns around and dumps the food on the customer's head in protest. The writer of the screenplay wanted to point out just how offensive that character is to the South Asian community. To bait someone (even if ineffectively) with sneering references to their spiritual practice, whether it be Bhakti, Islam, Buddhism or Catholicism is to be a bigot.

Personally I don't spend much time thinking about religion itself. But bigotry and intolerance are always going to be wholly repugnant to any civilized person.

In the event, I thought Synn was Roger, and was wrong. Synn thought I was a "Hare Krishna" and, now apparently, a Trump supporter, LOL, and was doubly wrong. I guess that makes us even.
 
Keshav said:
I also try when possible to not get overly pedantic. That said, Synn did in fact get onto my website and knowing nothing about me, deduced that my name (or the name I've been known by for years) is derived from my past association with Hindu practices which I found at the time very enlightening; and the culture really wonderfully engrossing. I did for a period of time very much identify with the Bhakti practice, tho in time, I outgrew it. Synn tho, in his frat-boy mind thought to deride me by using numerous references to Hinduism because apparently, religion or spiritual practice is something to be ashamed of as I assume it's somehow anathema to racing. Having spent a lovely summer one year with a girl who lived in the Southall section of London which is heavily populated by Indians, I'm well acquainted with all the coded race-baiting expressions like dot-heads, towel heads and any number of words with "curry" tacked on, which are implicitly racist - because 95% of Indians are, or Identify as Hindus. He repeatedly used the phrase "Come again" which on the face of it is a harmless catch phrase used on "The Simpsons" tho because of Groening's sensitivity to criticism I understand they stopped using that catch phrase. About 18 years ago there was a well publicized uproar in the Indian community about Apu, the only Indian character on The Simpsons because he was portrayed as a sing-song, simple-minded dimwit. And the character was duly updated to not seem so silly. There's actually a scene in a movie from about 6 years ago, where two racist jerks behave obnoxiously in an Indian restaurant and one of them baits the waiter with the "Come again!" catchphrase and the waiter turns around and dumps the food on the customer's head in protest. The writer of the screenplay wanted to point out just how offensive that character is to the South Asian community. To bait someone (even if ineffectively) with sneering references to their spiritual practice, whether it be Bhakti, Islam, Buddhism or Catholicism is to be a bigot.

Personally I don't spend much time thinking about religion itself. But bigotry and intolerance are always going to be wholly repugnant to any civilized person.

In the event, I thought Synn was Roger, and was wrong. Synn thought I was a "Hare Krishna" and, now apparently, a Trump supporter, LOL, and was doubly wrong. I guess that makes us even.
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This post reeks of "I'm not a racist because I have a black friend." Ending with your typical fox news style comment to sway the viewers. Enough is enough. Calling a white man curry fat or curry jerky isn't racist. An example of racism would be something like calling a mexican a mexican monkey. That would be worse don't you agree? I mean by your own standard above it is, so whats up with the double standard? Keep in mind the term mexican monkey has a direct meaning. Its a derogatory term for a half black half Mexican implying the have the worst qualities of both races. So please tell me again how calling a ....... white man curry fat is as bad as calling a Mexican the above? Why was that even necessary if rog was synn? And for ..... sake don't tell me a story about a Mexican girl you once knew as a response.
 
MdubSTYLIE said:
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This post reeks of "I'm not a racist because I have a black friend." Ending with your typical fox news style comment to sway the viewers. Enough is enough. Calling a white man curry fat or curry jerky isn't racist. An example of racism would be something like calling a mexican a mexican monkey. That would be worse don't you agree? I mean by your own standard above it is, so whats up with the double standard? Keep in mind the term mexican monkey has a direct meaning. Its a derogatory term for a half black half Mexican implying the have the worst qualities of both races. So please tell me again how calling a ....... white man curry fat is as bad as calling a Mexican the above? Why was that even necessary if rog was synn? And for ..... sake don't tell me a story about a Mexican girl you once knew as a response.
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Dub, take time an actually read and comprehend what has been said, instead of trying to look between the lines for things that aren't there. Has nothing to do with ridiculous accusations of my being racist. You should know by now, that whatever I believe in, I believe in. And I'm not shy about who I am. If I was a racist, I would be an in-your-face racist, not some beat-around the bush racist.

I never said the girl was Indian. She wasn't. I was pointing out that these common expressions of religious intolerance were overheard everywhere in that particular London community.

The term I used, several years ago is a nonsense term. Before Knockdown dredged up that obscure reference, I'd never heard of the expression Mexican monkey. When I used the term "Mexican Monkey ...." as another way of saying SNAFU it wasn't in any way referencing Jumkie or directed at him and there was no reason why he would believe it was. It was only JKD's perverse impulse to make a mountain out of a molehill for the purpose of inflaming members into yet another ridiculous battle that made Jumkie all of a sudden latch onto this as yet another wedge to drive between myself and other members.

Bigotry and intolerance have never been limited has never been limited to issue surround the pigment in one's skin. The expressions he used were well known skin-head code words calculated to offend persons of a particular faith or religious practice. That is unambigous religious bigotry.

I don't have any double standard. If the expression I used inadvertently offended Jumkie, he's smart enough to know it wasn't intentional. Whereas, Synn pointedly used racist code words and phrases in a clearly derisive tone calculated to offend me personally.

If you stop... and take a breath and actually think about it, there is no comparison.

As to the Roger thing, I say so what? A person can't speculate about the identity of a member??? Why would that be? Rog is an ordinary guy. He's not the prophet Mohammed. Why anybody treats him like some sacred cow is beyond me. I have no obligation to speak well of Roger. We parted ways a long time ago. We weren't friends then and nothing has changed. It's time that a few people here stop propagating the nonsense idea that he left the forum solely because he and I didn't get along. Michael has pointed out that Zoot was a big reason why Roger split. And I have a copy of a PM from Jumkie stating in no uncertain words that Roger had become disenchanted with Powerslide because he there were too many Australians on the forum. That's the reality.
 
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Keshav said:
Has nothing to do with ridiculous accusations of my being racist. You should know by now, that whatever I believe in, I believe in. And I'm not shy about who I am. If I was a racist, I would be an in-your-face racist, not some beat-around the bush racist.

The term I used, several years ago is a nonsense term. Before Knockdown dredged up that obscure reference, I'd never heard of the expression Mexican monkey. When I used the term "Mexican Monkey ...." another way of saying SNAFU it wasn't in any way referencing Jumkie or pointed at him and there was no reason why he would believe it was. It was only JKD's perverse impulse to make a mountain out of a molehill for the purpose of inflaming members into yet another ridiculous battle that made Jumkie all of a sudden latch onto this as yet another wedge to drive between myself and other members.

It has nothing to do with the pigment of one's skin. The expressions he used were well known skinhead code words meant to offend persons of a particular faith or religious practice. That is unambigous religious bigotry.

I don't have any double standard. If the expression I used inadvertently offended Jumkie, he's smart enough to know it wasn't intentional. Whereas, Synn pointedly used racist code words and phrases in a clearly derisive tone calculated to offend me personally.

If you stop... and take a breath and actually think about it, there's no comparison.

As to the Roger thing, I say so what? A person can't speculate about the identity of a member??? Rog is an ordinary guy. He's not the prophet Mohammed. Why anybody treats him like some sacred cow is beyond me.
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I'd say you mention him more than anyone by far. Sometimes kindly mostly very poorly, whatever suit your needs in the moment. People defend him because he has made relationships with many members on this forum so did his better half. So it not that we are raising him up on a pedestal we are defending a friend who left and isn't here to defend himself.

So mexican monkey .... is the same as snafu? Which means situation normal all ...... up. While mexican monkey means the worst of 2 races. Do you not see the relation? Is n***er rig an acceptable term as well?
 
Keshav said:
I also try when possible to not get overly pedantic. That said, Synn did in fact get onto my website and knowing nothing about me, deduced that my name (or the name I've been known by for years) is derived from my past association with Hindu practices which I found at the time very enlightening; and the culture really wonderfully engrossing. I did for a period of time very much identify with the Bhakti practice, tho in time, I outgrew it. Synn tho, in his frat-boy mind thought to deride me by using numerous references to Hinduism because apparently, religion or spiritual practice is something to be ashamed of as I assume it's somehow anathema to racing. Having spent a lovely summer one year with a girl who lived in the Southall section of London which is heavily populated by Indians, I'm well acquainted with all the coded race-baiting expressions like dot-heads, towel heads and any number of words with "curry" tacked on, which are implicitly racist - because 95% of Indians are, or Identify as Hindus. He repeatedly used the phrase "Come again" which on the face of it is a harmless catch phrase used on "The Simpsons" tho because of Groening's sensitivity to criticism I understand they stopped using that catch phrase. About 18 years ago there was a well publicized uproar in the Indian community about Apu, the only Indian character on The Simpsons because he was portrayed as a sing-song, simple-minded dimwit. And the character was duly updated to not seem so silly. There's actually a scene in a movie from about 6 years ago, where two racist jerks behave obnoxiously in an Indian restaurant and one of them baits the waiter with the "Come again!" catchphrase and the waiter turns around and dumps the food on the customer's head in protest. The writer of the screenplay wanted to point out just how offensive that character is to the South Asian community. To bait someone (even if ineffectively) with sneering references to their spiritual practice, whether it be Bhakti, Islam, Buddhism or Catholicism is to be a bigot.

Personally I don't spend much time thinking about religion itself. But bigotry and intolerance are always going to be wholly repugnant to any civilized person.

In the event, I thought Synn was Roger, and was wrong. Synn thought I was a "Hare Krishna" and, now apparently, a Trump supporter, LOL, and was doubly wrong. I guess that makes us even.
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Keshav said:
Has nothing to do with ridiculous accusations of my being racist. You should know by now, that whatever I believe in, I believe in. And I'm not shy about who I am. If I was a racist, I would be an in-your-face racist, not some beat-around the bush racist.

I never said the girl was Indian. She wasn't. I was pointing out that these common expressions of religious intolerance were overheard everywhere in that particular London community.

The term I used, several years ago is a nonsense term. Before Knockdown dredged up that obscure reference, I'd never heard of the expression Mexican monkey. When I used the term "Mexican Monkey ...." another way of saying SNAFU it wasn't in any way referencing Jumkie or pointed at him and there was no reason why he would believe it was. It was only JKD's perverse impulse to make a mountain out of a molehill for the purpose of inflaming members into yet another ridiculous battle that made Jumkie all of a sudden latch onto this as yet another wedge to drive between myself and other members.

It has nothing to do with the pigment of one's skin. The expressions he used were well known skinhead code words meant to offend persons of a particular faith or religious practice. That is unambigous religious bigotry.

I don't have any double standard. If the expression I used inadvertently offended Jumkie, he's smart enough to know it wasn't intentional. Whereas, Synn pointedly used racist code words and phrases in a clearly derisive tone calculated to offend me personally.

If you stop... and take a breath and actually think about it, there's no comparison.

As to the Roger thing, I say so what? A person can't speculate about the identity of a member??? Rog is an ordinary guy. He's not the prophet Mohammed. Why anybody treats him like some sacred cow is beyond me.
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Keshav logic. Jkd pointed out my comment was racist, therefore invalidating in my head, that the racist comment is racist
 
Keshav said:
Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this.
I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly,
take a stress pill, and think things over.

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Notice since this vile piece of .... was challenged by JPS, he started referring to JP by his real name.
Classic Keshav, weaponizing personal information to intimidate those that don’t agree with him. This is exactly what I meant about Keshav ripping the soul out this forum. Everyone is in fear of telling personal stories and details about themselves or their families because they know he will eventually try to leverage it against them
 
Keshav said:
I also try when possible to not get overly pedantic. That said, Synn did in fact get onto my website and knowing nothing about me, deduced that my name (or the name I've been known by for years) is derived from my past association with Hindu practices which I found at the time very enlightening; and the culture really wonderfully engrossing. I did for a period of time very much identify with the Bhakti practice, tho in time, I outgrew it. Synn tho, in his frat-boy mind thought to deride me by using numerous references to Hinduism because apparently, religion or spiritual practice is something to be ashamed of as I assume it's somehow anathema to racing. Having spent a lovely summer one year with a girl who lived in the Southall section of London which is heavily populated by Indians, I'm well acquainted with all the coded race-baiting expressions like dot-heads, towel heads and any number of words with "curry" tacked on, which are implicitly racist - because 95% of Indians are, or Identify as Hindus. He repeatedly used the phrase "Come again" which on the face of it is a harmless catch phrase used on "The Simpsons" tho because of Groening's sensitivity to criticism I understand they stopped using that catch phrase. About 18 years ago there was a well publicized uproar in the Indian community about Apu, the only Indian character on The Simpsons because he was portrayed as a sing-song, simple-minded dimwit. And the character was duly updated to not seem so silly. There's actually a scene in a movie from about 6 years ago, where two racist jerks behave obnoxiously in an Indian restaurant and one of them baits the waiter with the "Come again!" catchphrase and the waiter turns around and dumps the food on the customer's head in protest. The writer of the screenplay wanted to point out just how offensive that character is to the South Asian community. To bait someone (even if ineffectively) with sneering references to their spiritual practice, whether it be Bhakti, Islam, Buddhism or Catholicism is to be a bigot.

Personally I don't spend much time thinking about religion itself. But bigotry and intolerance are always going to be wholly repugnant to any civilized person.

In the event, I thought Synn was Roger, and was wrong. Synn thought I was a "Hare Krishna" and, now apparently, a Trump supporter, LOL, and was doubly wrong. I guess that makes us even.
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No Rajesh, i’ll Skip the vindaloo this time. Just the butter chicken and the garlic naan, please.
 
JohnnyKnockdown said:
It’s a movie favored by pill popping acid heads from the 70’s
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I actually consider it a great movie, but I am sure it is incomprehensible if you haven't read the book. I first saw it with a group of fellow medical students at the university cinema, where they showed films once a week which tended to the avant garde. I had read the book and could follow and enjoy the film without being on acid, while my friends who hadn't read the book and hadn't taken acid either had no idea what the movie was supposed to be about. I don't know if the director, Stanley Kubrick, took acid but he was certainly a great film-maker in general.
 

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