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Lorenzo sign with HRC

Haha tell me about it. That feeling of getting off a super sport, out of your leathers, crawling your way to the couch and sitting down with a single malt.

Priceless. Don’t think I will ever get too old for that.

That and the look on the younger guys faces when you sit at the advanced rider meeting before a track day. They're smug..you're the geezer. Then the look you get after the first session..they're humbled and you're "experienced."
 
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You're not an old fart..you haven't passed 40 yet..i've just passed 50..i'm not sure if i'm an old fart either..i still feel 18 in my head...still act like a .... and check out young chicks when i'm old enough to be their dad..still pulling wheelies everywhere and copping speeding tickets far too regularly..still playing guitar in a band even though i know it will never go further than pub gigs.........maybe i am an old fart..

I may have lied a bit, in reality it’s more like Rossi +5. Age not championships. He does crack 40 this year does he not? Not bad. Biaggi imo was every bit as good at 40 as he was at 25, and every bit as nuts. Agree with what you and others say feeling young is being young, why the hell would I want to grow up?
 
I may have lied a bit, in reality it’s more like Rossi +5. Age not championships. He does crack 40 this year does he not? Not bad. Biaggi imo was every bit as good at 40 as he was at 25, and every bit as nuts. Agree with what you and others say feeling young is being young, why the hell would I want to grow up?

You're in my age bracket then! Yeah, Vale cracks the big 4-oh this year.
 
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I was trying to stay out of all this but feel compelled to offer my 2 cents,in light of the hospitality shown by Jumkie i think the 'rusty motorhome' comment is totally unacceptable and beggars belief,Jumkie..if you read this please accept my apologies for any criticism i have levelled in your direction regarding the ongoing feud on here,perhaps you guys have it right and condemnation is absolutely necessary..

Not ever having been wrongly pilloried and lied about by Jumkie. - you wouldn’t understand how irksome the whole business can be, hence my being less than generous when dealing with Jum. Years of being subjected to abusive rants by Jum have a way of colouring one’s memories. Besides it was rusty. Moreover it had several nearly bald tires that left us sitting stranded in the desert for hours waiting for a tow truck. Not that we didn’t have a great time in the end - but that said it doesn’t buy him a free pass to repeatedly falsely vilify me on the forum. If that’s how things worked - then my not ungenerous offer to throw Jum a free round trip airline ticket from LA to Texas should rightly insulate me from his ceaseless personal attacks, wouldn’t you say? I’ve mentioned this several times and Jum hasn’t denied or discounted it, or for that matter even acknowledged it.

Bottom line... I was a loyal friend until Jum decided he could not be a friend to both me and Rog at the same time. It was his choice. In the end- it’s a tempest in a teapot, not worthy of endless discussion on a racing forum. But people do like to fritter away their time gossiping about things that have nothing to do with them. I’ll go so far as to say that the curtains would have closed on this soap opera years ago if rubberneckers had refrained from adding their own two cents. ;) what to do? Social media brings out the worst tribal tendencies in people and folks feel compelled to take sides according to their various biases. Over time “facts” become blurred or even irrelevant as people dig their trenches and stay in them.
 
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I was trying to stay out of all this but feel compelled to offer my 2 cents,in light of the hospitality shown by Jumkie i think the 'rusty motorhome' comment is totally unacceptable and beggars belief,Jumkie..if you read this please accept my apologies for any criticism i have levelled in your direction regarding the ongoing feud on here,perhaps you guys have it right and condemnation is absolutely necessary..

Thanks Pyeman.

All good buddy.


We're in for a cracker tomorrow.

If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
 
The intent of the worst of trolls is always to get under someone’s skin, in extreme cases by whatever means necessary, including but not limited to racism. Insults are insults, intended to bring their adversary down a peg or two in front of their peers. Embarrass, shame, lower self esteem. Online bullying, the techno iPhone age where kids actually suffer depression and suicide over words in cyberspace. If you happen to be an ‘old fart’ like me (about Rossi’s age) there is some perspective of a prehistoric age where adversaries had to be engaged face to face, meaning having to maybe bite your tongue rather than cop a flogging. No I’m not referring to when I met my wife. It wasn’t until the second date she sought out who’s boss. Just kidding honey.

Shouldn’t make light of this though, it’s a serious problem. Imo the best solution is to disengage rather than retaliate or even waste time discussing. This feeding the trolls phenomenon is sucking all the oxygen out of this place. Damn shame really because I absolutely love racing and enjoy the company of all those that share my addiction. Go Dovi, ....... legend of a man, prediction championship will be back on track this round with a win.


Im going to have to re write my PS/GOT comparison and add in OZ.
A vast southern land, surrounded by a once Great Barrier, inhabited primarily by fence walkers
 
You're not an old fart..you haven't passed 40 yet..i've just passed 50..i'm not sure if i'm an old fart either..i still feel 18 in my head...still act like a .... and check out young chicks when i'm old enough to be their dad..still pulling wheelies everywhere and copping speeding tickets far too regularly..still playing guitar in a band even though i know it will never go further than pub gigs.........maybe i am an old fart..

Would love to see some video of your band
I know its risky putting your personal info and image into this place but if you were willing to do so, I would have your back if anyone had a go at you
 
Would love to see some video of your band
I know its risky putting your personal info and image into this place but if you were willing to do so, I would have your back if anyone had a go at you

Thanks man..i don't have any footage of me playing,loads of people do as everyone has a phone these days..i guess even if i did i wouldn't put it on the interweb as there's too many 'experts' out there waiting to pick you apart,not saying people here would, but i don't like to broadcast myself...you're not missing much to tell the truth!...think 70's rock covers band ala Zeppelin/Creedence/Skynyrd/Eagles etc...
 
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next year. He was born in '79 ;)

61 here , still riding sport bikes even after double knee replacement 6 months ago. I see the look of disbelief on the whippersnappers faces all the time. I will go by a group of out of staters on their liter bikes and when we get to the store they always wonder by pointing at the beaded up rubber on the edge of the tires , then they see this big old cripple with the salt and pepper goatee. I have guys I ride with in their 50’s who ride liter bike who are fast as hell, been riding together for 35 years and everyone knows the pecking order.
 
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Not ever having been wrongly pilloried and lied about by Jumkie. - you wouldn’t understand how irksome the whole business can be, hence my being less than generous when dealing with Jum. Years of being subjected to abusive rants by Jum have a way of colouring one’s memories. Besides it was rusty. Moreover it had several nearly bald tires that left us sitting stranded in the desert for hours waiting for a tow truck. Not that we didn’t have a great time in the end - but that said it doesn’t buy him a free pass to repeatedly falsely vilify me on the forum. If that’s how things worked - then my not ungenerous offer to throw Jum a free round trip airline ticket from LA to Texas should rightly insulate me from his ceaseless personal attacks, wouldn’t you say? I’ve mentioned this several times and Jum hasn’t denied or discounted it, or for that matter even acknowledged it.

Bottom line... I was a loyal friend until Jum decided he could not be a friend to both me and Rog at the same time. It was his choice. In the end- it’s a tempest in a teapot, not worthy of endless discussion on a racing forum. But people do like to fritter away their time gossiping about things that have nothing to do with them. I’ll go so far as to say that the curtains would have closed on this soap opera years ago if rubberneckers had refrained from adding their own two cents. ;) what to do? Social media brings out the worst tribal tendencies in people and folks feel compelled to take sides according to their various biases. Over time “facts” become blurred or even irrelevant as people dig their trenches and stay in them.

Words cannot describe what an ungrateful piece of .... this man is.
 
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Words cannot describe what an ungrateful piece of .... this man is.

Oh thank christ for that! At last :rolleyes: it was pretty tiresome hearing you whinge about him all of the time.

I look forward to your new .... sane ... practice of .... not having the words. ;)
 
Absolutely white privilege is a real thing. I don't think either of use have the solution but I have an opinion that white people deciding what is offensive for another race an be detrimental to making things better. We don't need more racist term we need less. I get that your close ties to Indian culture make that a hot bottom term to call you, thats why he did it. But the reason I have the opinion about what he said was just summed up very well by JK, the word curry is still acceptable. So coming up with a term using it to offend you isn't actually racist. Offensive for sure. But not the same as monkey, ......, or dot head. Those are terrible terms and I would not be okay with him using them against you or anyone else. Your reaction to the term curryfat can set the direction of the meaning. Blow it off and its just dust in the wind.

Argue away with Keshav all you want but I have to comment on your white privilege statement. I couldn't disagree more. It doesn't exist and is just another ........ term for self entitled folks to pass off everything negative that happens to them (not getting that job, getting less fries, getting cut up in traffic etc) on some master plan hatched up by evil whiteys rather than the failings in themselves.

White people promoting it are just virtuous fools attempting to ingratiate themselves to ethnic minorities but ultimately demeaning them by implying that they are inferior because they can't be treated with the equal respect that they can make it or break it entirely on their own.

'There, there black man, you didn't make it because us nasty crackers tied an arm behind your back. Allow us to help you out with some positive discrimination because you couldn't succeed without our assistance'.
 
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Argue away with Keshav all you want but I have to comment on your white privilege statement. I couldn't disagree more. It doesn't exist and is just another ........ term for self entitled folks to pass off everything negative that happens to them (not getting that job, getting less fries, getting cut up in traffic etc) on some master plan hatched up by evil whiteys rather than the failings in themselves.

White people promoting it are just virtuous fools attempting to ingratiate themselves to ethnic minorities but ultimately demeaning them by implying that they are inferior because they can't be treated with the equal respect that they can make it or break it entirely on their own.

'There, there black man, you didn't make it because us nasty crackers tied an arm behind your back. Allow us to help you out with some positive discrimination because you couldn't succeed without our assistance'.

Acknowledging white privilege is a thing is not the same as offering a handout. There are a lot of corners of america where there absolutely is white privilege its not even debatable. The feeling that someone is owed something because of that isn't the solution, equality is.
 
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If you think someone isn't capable of that you have to find a reason to blame someone else for their predicament.
 
Argue away with Keshav all you want but I have to comment on your white privilege statement. I couldn't disagree more. It doesn't exist and is just another ........ term for self entitled folks to pass off everything negative that happens to them (not getting that job, getting less fries, getting cut up in traffic etc) on some master plan hatched up by evil whiteys rather than the failings in themselves.

White people promoting it are just virtuous fools attempting to ingratiate themselves to ethnic minorities but ultimately demeaning them by implying that they are inferior because they can't be treated with the equal respect that they can make it or break it entirely on their own.

'There, there black man, you didn't make it because us nasty crackers tied an arm behind your back. Allow us to help you out with some positive discrimination because you couldn't succeed without our assistance'.

On this count, there's zero disagreement between Dubs and myself. I'd present arguments to counter your assertions, but knowing it would be a long on-going thing, I won't, unless you want to take it to Social and make it a separate thread. Discussions on politics or religion are not everybody's cup of tea.
 

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