I couldn't disagree more. It doesn't exist and is just another ........ term for self entitled folks to pass off everything negative that happens to them (not getting that job, getting less fries, getting cut up in traffic etc) on some master plan hatched up by evil whiteys rather than the failings in themselves.
White people promoting it are just virtuous fools attempting to ingratiate themselves to ethnic minorities but ultimately demeaning them by implying that they are inferior because they can't be treated with the equal respect that they can make it or break it entirely on their own.
'There, there black man, you didn't make it because us nasty crackers tied an arm behind your back. Allow us to help you out with some positive discrimination because you couldn't succeed without our assistance'.
It's obvious no amount of evidence or logic would convince you otherwise, you've made up your mind "it doesn't exist" (a rather stunning assertion, I bet you also think "the rule of 'law' is some sacred notion. May I direct you to read about western imperialism of the 18 and 19 hundreds...) notwithstanding, I think the quote below speaks to the notion of "white privileged".
Whatever happened to doing your best and standing on your own merit?
Sounds great, who is going to argue with that? I particularly like the notion that at one time 'merit' was the sole measure of a person's worth, station, and opportunities in life. Almost sounds like we need to 'make merit great again', emphasis in "again". It sounds nice to say this above merit, unfortunately it has never actually existed.
First of all Payne (and Spygoat) I don't 'feel' a person of color such as myself would be the best person to debate it with you, though ironically I'd be in the best position to describe it. But apparently neither is a white guy like Mdub. I do think it's futile, so I'll just keep it short given Spygoat's logic, which is used to advance your belief but falls short in reality, which is precisely the point about privileged.
In short, it would be great if: "... doing your best and standing on your own merit" was the ultimate gauge. You ever heard the idiom, 'it's not what you know, it's who you know'? There is an element of 'privilege' there that speaks to the notion I'm contending, it's of a similar vein. Your assertion is, this doesn't exist! The reality of course is despite your beliefs in it or your disbelief about it has absolutely no bearing. It's actually quite similar to declaring, round earth does not exist! The earth doesn't become flat because you don't believe it. As I said, logic, evidence, and explanation is futile perhaps, you sound rather unmovable on this point, I would only ask you to start reading about western imperialism and hope you make the connections to the current reality of race and privileged and implicit bias that comes with it.
This actually reminds me of the 'real' history over the rights and 'privileges' as defined and recognized by law. That's right, the rights and 'privileges' of being white as a matter of 'the rule of law'. I don’t know where you're from Payne, but perhaps you could familiarize yourself with the way the acknowledgment and recognition of 'who is white' has changed over time (which that fact speaks to the crux of this notion) because this had (and has) real consequence. There are several cases in American law where it was argued in court (hence my reference to the "rule of law" point I alluded to above); but the case that was most memorable to me was the one used by a middle eastern man who argued he was in fact 'white' because he was from the same region Jesus Christ is from, and God knows he is white, particularly with then (and not so dissimilar now) established American Christian ethos. Case closed, you middle eastern sir are most definitely white then, entitled by law as of this court case to the rights and 'privileges' of other whites! Which of course meant 'non-whites' were entitled to no such privileged. Isn't that odd, but it doesn't exist, why would something that doesn't exist need to be contested in court?
I said I'm probably not the best person to debate this with you because, well....some of my best friends are white. Ha! (No really, they are.)
I should say, I think you may be protesting 'white man's guilt' with 'white privileged' though it does sound a bit like 'white man's burden.'
(I'll get my coat).
If you live in a glass house don't throw rocks.
it was pretty tiresome hearing you whinge about him all of the time.
