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Quite possibly, should he be racing now? He definitely has a gift for riding a motorcycle to its absolute limits but if he has vision restrictions then that needs looking at.

That was my concern surrounding Sepang and when I mentioned it in this thread (as we often forget the injuries some of these people suffer) it did bring some good discussion.

I genuinely cannot recall the full extent of the injury and in reality, only doctors would know how to accurately test but he would have to have full medical clearance to have been allowed to compete again ........... but then, we all know of top level athletes who compete with injury because they were passed fit or have taken a needling
 
The very under-rated and dare I say, often forgotten Simon Crafar

I chose my username because of Simon's books & DVDs giving track riding tips. Unlike a lot of other riding technique books & videos, Simon actually covered some really advanced techniques. Unfortunate that Simon couldn't adapt to Michelin tires, if I think he'd have more recognition.
 
I chose my username because of Simon's books & DVDs giving track riding tips. Unlike a lot of other riding technique books & videos, Simon actually covered some really advanced techniques. Unfortunate that Simon couldn't adapt to Michelin tires, if I think he'd have more recognition.

He and Gazza on the Red Bull machines .............. the underdogs who over achieved (IMO)

Both were very good riders but who's careers ended because of equipment changes

Sadly, both relatively long forgotten
 
Because they stop being human beings made of flesh, blood, and emotions? I think you need to revisit why this started. It started because a rider got his feelings hurt, then lashed out at the world. That lashing out became dangerous! Except, normally when that happens, the pro athlete is told to buck up. You don't find your double standard interesting?

Vudu, you've been reading some good explanations on the forum why this kind of expression by the fans isn't a normal part of this sport. On top of that, why this sport is unique for its dangers. Fans are more respectful in golf. Have you ever heard of booing in golf? No. Because it's normally not part of that sport's culture. Baseball, I will boo the .... out of the opposing batter, why? Because it's accepted, and it's banter not really hate. Have you ever watched a free throw by an opposing player in NBA? The host venue even hands out sound devices to distract the opposing player. I'm not going to get into a philosophical reason why it's acceptable in one sport verses the other, though I think it's been well explained around here, I think the rationalization to the contrary is based on very weak fallacies.

Im not surprised you'd follow Rossi's lead employing a double standard. Simoncelli was considered a dangerous rider, some of his fellow competitors rightfully expressed their disapproval; rightly because they had to race next to him, putting their own lives on the line. Rossi came out in support of Sic, similar to his "this is racing" to Stoner's objections in 08. However, revisit Rossi's take on Iannone after PI05, he said Iannone had been dangerous (btw, VR had a similar take on Elias in 06). I don't recall Simoncelli getting openly booed by fans to express their disapproval. Isolated, perhaps, but not an ongoing activity. So no, this isn't a footballing culture, nor are we to make ourselves feel better by falsely assuming these riders should tune it out, or as you suggest, turn it into motivation.

I doubt the boos actually do affect how these guys ride, and if anything probably are motivation as some have said. The whole thing as you say is that it is foreign to the culture of the sport, and disrespects what these riders are actually doing, contributing to the toxic work culture which you have pointed out. I can't imagine anyone booing Rainey, Doohan, Lawson et al in the 500 golden era, when the bikes were so dangerous as Rainey and Doohan can attest, and that the lives and health of the of the riders are always still on the line is something which hasn't changed. Stoner specifically said in his book that one of the key things which most prompted him to retire was that after a brief pause following Marco Simoncelli's death the usual backbiting etc against riders returned within a few weeks.
 
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where's the heart felt apology from Lorenzo?
I see he's still busting out the tricycle every single time a rider gets near him. they did it to Dovi and they pulled it out in his own teammate. Those were the two that were aired anyway.
he might want to stopping antagonizing other riders if he wants to change attitudes.
hell. he won't even change his attitude but wants rossi to step up for him after pulling this .....
and those who don't think he's taking a mean spirited ... at the other riders. Just image rossi did it. and there you go, you'd think it's the worst thing you've ever seen.

Naturally Daniboy would applaud this further example of false moral equivalence.
 
why would you do it at 10mph when you could at 90? if you're using it as a weapon it's intended to do damage. more speed more damage. slowing down would mean the opposite.
have you ever driven a car?

Answer the question Steve, don't deflect.

If I hit you with the car at 10MPH intentionally, am I using it as a weapon?

Well I guess Steve doesn't want to actually answer this.
 
More popcorn

You have never really had much to say, and now have absolutely nothing to say. Provoking reactions from people with whom you apparently disagree while not being able to answer their arguments except on the level of the Eric Idle character in the Monty Python argument sketch proves absolutely nothing, whether you consider that you are comporting yourself in a calm manner or otherwise.
 
Hold out a board or something JPS, he is sure to respond then ........ :D

I've heard the tricycle has nothing to do with insulting a rider, but to notify when a rider is trying to learn something from him/follow him around like Hector Barbera.
 
The person who needs a bodyguard is this poor transportation worker. Regardless of the "attitude" said worker had with the candyman, Stoner is a superstar in Australia and by calling this guy out and pinpointing his exact location he is goading his fans to perpetrate unsavory acts and perhaps violence against this individual. He is using his power of celebrity to threaten this mans safety.
In the meantime the Evil Rossi is the criminal because his fans are expressive.
Boo ....... hoo
 

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Maybe there are no fans where you've attended. But plenty where I've raced. Beyond WERA and AMARR my endurance team raced the AMA-CCS series which ran endurance races in tandem with AMA Camel Pro races at the AMA Nationals which were very well attended in their day. Especially at Daytona and Mid Ohio.

I won't bother returning your insults. This forum is filled with mindless trolls and from where I sit, you just blend in with all the rest like part of a pattern on cheap wallpaper. If you're looking for a flame war, look elsewhere.

Those fans are called mechanics, wives and waterboys.
Whats a flame war? Is that when queers from the Castro in San Fran fight against the tyrannical twinks of Greenich Village.
Or is it when the Key West homos fight with the Provincetown power bottoms?
I bet you know a lot about these flame wars.
 
The person who needs a bodyguard is this poor transportation worker. Regardless of the "attitude" said worker had with the candyman, Stoner is a superstar in Australia and by calling this guy out and pinpointing his exact location he is goading his fans to perpetrate unsavory acts and perhaps violence against this individual. He is using his power of celebrity to threaten this mans safety.
In the meantime the Evil Rossi is the criminal because his fans are expressive.
Boo ....... hoo

Crickets .... i hear crickets in isle 4 ..... must be all the crickets reacting like a rossifan over a nothing comment.

You sir are a fine example of why rossi fans are dangerously idiotic.
 
Those fans are called mechanics, wives and waterboys.
Whats a flame war? Is that when queers from the Castro in San Fran fight against the tyrannical twinks of Greenich Village.
Or is it when the Key West homos fight with the Provincetown power bottoms?
I bet you know a lot about these flame wars.

WTF!!!?? Are you pissed or just a rossi fan ..... or maybe ypu are even rossi? You make that little sense.
 
Crickets .... i hear crickets in isle 4 ..... must be all the crickets reacting like a rossifan over a nothing comment.

You sir are a fine example of why rossi fans are dangerously idiotic.

Hi BarryMachine
I take it your a Stoner fan. If your quick you can still make it down to the transport station to exact vengeance on someone who would dare give Stoner attitude. It should be easy to find. Casey did say desk #4 and even sent a second tweet specifying that it was the Helensvale Transport location
 
Answer the question Steve, don't deflect.

If I hit you with the car at 10MPH intentionally, am I using it as a weapon?

i answered the question. you don't slow way down to cause damage. you slow to avoid it. i realize when you try to think nothing really happens, but try anyway.

the deal is we disagree who's the aggressor in the situation you're talking about. simple as that. no need to rehash it again. if i agreed with you we'd both be wrong and what would that get us?
and I trust my judgement more than yours partly because i liked marquez before this all went down. you have been blinded by hate for quite a while. rossi could save orphans from a burning building and you'd have something ...... to say about it. so your takes can't be taken seriously.

and if you'll buy that bunk about the tricycle not being an insult i'll go ahead and throw in the golden gate bridge for free.
 
i answered the question. you don't slow way down to cause damage. you slow to avoid it. i realize when you try to think nothing really happens, but try anyway.

the deal is we disagree who's the aggressor in the situation you're talking about. simple as that. no need to rehash it again. if i agreed with you we'd both be wrong and what would that get us?
and I trust my judgement more than yours partly because i liked marquez before this all went down. you have been blinded by hate for quite a while. rossi could save orphans from a burning building and you'd have something ...... to say about it. so your takes can't be taken seriously.

and if you'll buy that bunk about the tricycle not being an insult i'll go ahead and throw in the golden gate bridge for free.

Yeah nice job Steve, sidestep, deflect, and avoid answering the question. Always good to see you aren't man enough to answer a simple question...just like Rossi naturally.

Your comparison of a sign to using a motorcycle as a weapon is a real good comparison...you negated your own hot ......' take by using a false equivalence argument like most Rossi fans do. Get the .... off the forum and come back next year when the 2017 Austin Meetup topic starts.
 
Yeah nice job Steve, sidestep, deflect, and avoid answering the question. Always good to see you aren't man enough to answer a simple question...just like Rossi naturally.

Your comparison of a sign to using a motorcycle as a weapon is a real good comparison...you negated your own hot ......' take by using a false equivalence argument like most Rossi fans do. Get the .... off the forum and come back next year when the 2017 Austin Meetup topic starts.

you're ordering me off the board? let me think about it. I must admit. even though you haven't been around long you've probably spent 50 times as many hours on here as me. So you may have seniority.

BTW. I'm not making comparisons. what i'm saying is if Lorenzo has a problem HE should handle it. make an effort.
Rossi doesn't have a problem. why should he go out of his way if Jlo won't even put forth an effort.


and you never answered my question if you'd ever driven a car.


Hey! It was your one year anniversary last month! Happy one year anniversary baby boy!
 
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you're ordering me off the board? let me think about it. I must admit. even though you haven't been around long you've probably spent 50 times as many hours on here as me. So you may have seniority.

BTW. I'm not making comparisons. what i'm saying is if Lorenzo has a problem HE should handle it. make an effort.
Rossi doesn't have a problem. why should he go out of his way if Jlo won't even put forth an effort.

and you never answered my question if you'd ever driven a car.

Rossi doesn't have a problem? Since he accused Lorenzo of being part of the conspiracy to .... him out of the title, yeah I'd say he has a problem with Lorenzo. Why should JLo go out of his way to be friends to a guy who did everything he could to paint him in a bad light? To say nothing of his press conference jabs at Lorenzo prior to the Ducati announcement.

I'll answer your question when you decide to answer mine. You don't get to answer a question with a question. Let me know if you're up to that.
 
i just don't live on this board bud.

But at least you do live man (said genuinely)

.... it, I just spent 2 hours out and about trying to run in the bloody new steed so I know what it is like to do other (better) things ............ if only the wife was around :cool:
 
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