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Laguna Seca Race Discussions

povol said:
Was Rossi not an attention whore when he was regularly pulling those stunts. Its called immaturity, and one can only hope that they grow out of it.
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No, I don't think so. Rossi did it because of his playful personality, while Lorenzo has none and just copying Rossi
 
ganz said:
No, I don't think so. Rossi did it because of his playful personality, while Lorenzo has none and just copying Rossi
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It is more probable that in actual fact there is more than one rider in the world with a playful side.
 
ganz said:
Certainly, but that wouldn't be Lorenzo.
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Well obviously you are wrong, we are having this conversation because you object to him expressing his playful side on the basis that he's stepping on Rossi's toes by being a personality himself. Lorenzo enjoys himself with the in-jokes he and his friends come up with, plenty fans like to see the human side of the riders with a bit of theatre, competitors hate having that rubbed in their faces by the guy who just beat them. Its got all the standard ingredients
 
Tom said:
Well obviously you are wrong, we are having this conversation because you object to him expressing his playful side on the basis that he's stepping on Rossi's toes by being a personality himself. Lorenzo enjoys himself with the in-jokes he and his friends come up with, plenty fans like to see the human side of the riders with a bit of theatre, competitors hate having that rubbed in their faces by the guy who just beat them. Its got all the standard ingredients
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Ok
 
Keshav said:
If you watch the post race interview with Spies - he says they had the speed to do the job,

but he'd basically lost his concentration after making one or two mistakes. He made no

excuses. And really you have to hand to him - he was up there at the pointy end and doing

good for a guy in his rookie year. I think fans of the Pie Man may have had overly high expectations

- me included.
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I was expecting more out of Spies honestly, and couldn't figure out why he came up a tad short. This article from Gpone, if true, would explain ALOT.



http://www.gpone.com/index.php/en/news/braking-news/1414-spies-qcascato-maleq-a-laguna-seca.html
 
Kropotkin said:
Deep in the .... is how the TV contracts are. No Brit in MotoGP: BBC unhappy. Rossi injured: Italian TV audiences halved. Yes, you heard that right, dropped by 50%. Spanish TV audiences holding up while Rossi is away, but only because Lorenzo is making everyone else look stupid. If Rossi retires, Lorenzo gets bored and goes off to do something else, and Stoner or Spies take over, TV ratings in Spain plummet too, though not quite as badly as in Italy.



Dorna currently have a 20 million a year deal with TVE, but budget cutbacks mean that TVE is dropping MotoGP in Spain, and it's going to a commercial channel. Probably for a lot less money, though I haven't heard any figures yet. As to how Dorna reacts to developments on the internet, they are barely aware that it exists. The sight of multiple journalists in the media center watching Spanish and Italian streams on Justin TV as Dorna bods walk by unsuspectingly is absolutely hilarious, and points up where they are going wrong.



Dorna has something of a long-term plan. The MSMA are due a kicking, and will have their toys taken away from 2012 on. Dorna will try to put the CRT teams on a level footing with the factory teams for 2012, in the hope of attracting more teams in with a realistic chance of winning. The factory engineers are crapping themselves at the thought of racing against teams with 24 liters of fuel. With more teams, the racing might get a little bit more exciting. But the main problem is one that permeates all professional sports: every generation is better than the last - after all, they've had to do their best to try and match them, which means making fewer mistakes and riding ever more precise lines. Jorge Lorenzo is the embodiment of that, absolutely flawless riding. Not always entertaining, but undeniably fast.



Of course, to recreate the glory years of the early 990s, what we need is .... tires. Bring on Cheng Shin!
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It's depressing when you think about it. MotoGP is wedged between the ceiling of unsafe performance and the floor of WSBK. How much room do they have to play with?



A 1000cc SBK in World Supersport trim (AMA SBK) can qualify for the MotoGP grid. Conventional wisdom during a recession says that the cost-benefit structure needs to be reworked by allowing production equipment into MotoGP, but if most of the FIM series have the same lap times, cost-benefit analysis will only create 2 different versions of the same world championship (we are basically there already). Now that we have two-versions of the same world championship, the organizers want to kill both by integrating them into a single series. One ridiculous idea (selling GP-performance to end consumers) has led to another ridiculous idea (1 world championship). Nothing will be fixed in the world of motorcycles until the FIM and the MSMA manipulate performance rather than cost.



It may not be possible to raise MotoGP performance b/c improved crash protection cannot distribute the forces of 2g deceleration. MotoGP riders cannot be strapped in. The only thing that makes any sense, is to return relevance to RR products sold to end consumers. We pay as much as a small car for bikes that require engine maintenance every 5,000-10,000 miles. Production race bike engines don't even last as long as the new MotoGP 800s.
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MotoGP should definitely move back to 1000s, but in the long run, MotoGP will not survive unless the FIM and the MSMA reform SBK.
 
ganz said:
No, I don't think so. Rossi did it because of his playful personality, while Lorenzo has none and just copying Rossi
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They both do it for the same reason, shameless self promotion and the weak minded fan who thinks its cute and will gobble up the merchandise. Your a victim of marketing.
 
stop being a hater
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.... some of Rossis celebrations were stupid to.. just like the moon man .... was/is.. not only stupid but repeated :
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assteroid
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povol said:
They both do it for the same reason, shameless self promotion and the weak minded fan who thinks its cute and will gobble up the merchandise. Your a victim of marketing.
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I didn't buy any of Rossi's shirts or anything else, but thanks for enlightening me.
 
L8Braker said:
Ben being a good spokesperson here...didn't want to mention a helmet malfunction in the press because it would damage HJC's reputation..etc.
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ding ding ding, WINNER WINNER. Gpone also has an article that throws out some salary numbers, along with average clothing sponsorship deals.



Helmet $$ contract go anywhere from 200-600,000 euros.(roughly 250-750,000 US)
 
Pigeon said:
if your in the uk its repeated a lot on sky/freesat bbc1 red button its on now

if your not in the uk there's places out there to get your fix
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Thanks pigeon, I'm in the UK Don't have sky (wouldn't piss on murdoch if he was on fire)

British Broadcasting Crap can poke their piss poor attempt at motogp coverage up their collective ..... and set fire to it,

so I guess I am asking if there is a recording of eurosport coverage! Cheers!
 
ganz said:
I didn't buy any of Rossi's shirts or anything else, but thanks for enlightening me.
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That may or may not be true, only you know what hangs on your bed post. What you did buy was the idea that dressing up like a chicken promotes Moto Gp, and not Rossi!
 
Keshav said:
More than anything, I think Lorenzo does it because he has a personality deficit. He has none

of Rossi's charisma - so he does these lame theatrics in a sad attempt to seem as personable

as Vale. Once in front of the mike, he's a boring as the majority of the riders, who never really

answer the questions they're asked and just dole out a laundry list of what they did right and

what they did wrong and thanks to all their sponsors. Blah blah blah.
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I think part of the reason that the questions don't get answered is that for a lot of them, English is a second language so they spend time thinking of what they will say before they speak. If the questions were asked in their native tongue it would be a bit different.
 
VTtwinner said:
ding ding ding, WINNER WINNER. Gpone also has an article that throws out some salary numbers, along with average clothing sponsorship deals.



Helmet $ contract go anywhere from 200-600,000 euros.(roughly 250-750,000 US)
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HJC Helmets are ....! Ben is really Loyal, I would have signed with Arai at the same time I was signing my WSBK contract last year.
 

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