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Norah Head
This wasn´t a race.....just a really fast parade
sure am this what i'm seeing nowis nothing its .... to what World Championship Motorcycle Racing was.
Hands up the Rossifans in this lot
Just remember for all your misery there are Lorenzo fans out there who are on a high and see this race as one of the best, just as you would if Rossi won. So why start the sooking at something that is not to blame, only Rossi is causing your distress.
I tend to agree, as I have previously; he has not looked "on it" since the first 2 races, apart from when rossi passed him at the sachsenring as you say. I think it is a combination of not trusting the bike totally after the crashes in the first 2 races and the criticism he copped for same, and probably annoyance at ducati for chasing both jorge and valentino in preference to him and designing a bike with strong rear grip but poor front grip, or poor front-end feel anyway, the reverse of his preference. All of these factors seem to have lessened his desire to traduce the laws of physics as he has done on occasion in the past.
I still have doubts even rossi can make the ducati handle as well as the yamaha, which he will need to do as the bike he has developed for jorge suits jorge so well; it took him a year to develop the yamaha to a point of parity (or superiority depending on your point of view) with the screamer ducati in the first place. No doubt he and preziosi can very likely come up with a good 1000cc bike.
Well, not the best race in the world, but still plenty to talk about:
Lorenzo is really going from strength to strength at the moment, he isn't putting a foot wrong, hes always quick and he's making the right decisions of when to push and when not to push. I think he will be unstoppable this year and is well on his way to becoming world champion and Spains greatest ever premier class rider.
Dani, needed to win. Just like Casey in the second half of 08 finishing second is a total waste of time so well done to him for going all out to try, its a shame it didn't come off and i just hope he can keep his good form rolling over the summer because i hope he can be on it next year wen he comes up against Stoner head to head
The battle for 2nd overall is far from over, Rossi must be getting ideas. Another good ride from him, you could see at the end of that he was exhausted. Funny in the press conference he looked considerably more tanned than the other two, i wonder if a lot of his recovery involved sunbathing..... haha
Dovi was solid and at least he didn't crash, but he just looks that little bit unconvincing as if he's a borderline alien. I wonder what he will become in the long run i think its about time he won a dry race. Further back Spies was obviously giving it his all, but unusually made quite a few mistakes. It was nice for Nicky to be top american but i'm sure they'd all liked to have been fighting for the podium. With the 6 factory bikes locking out the top 6 places in the standings, the bottom half of the top ten looks like something worth fighting for in the second half of the year. Melandri has done a quiet job of getting into the best of the rest fight, maybe enough to keep him involved next year, but RDP was performing better before the injury. Rookie of the year i think is far from over too.
At the back, you have to wonder what this switch to moto2 has done to DeAngelis, he is not nearly the rider he used to be and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire before that anyway, its a shame but i don't think we'll see a whole lot more of him at the sharp end of GP racing.
Looking at Roger Lee this weekend, for me just showed the reason why riders like Crutchlow turn down mid season motogp opportunities. With no seat time at all its foolish to expect any riders to make an impact quickly, and i think the testing rules should be altered to encourage new rider development. Perhaps each team should have one engine allocated for testing purposes, which cannot be ridden by a current motogp rider.
The seasons half way over now and even though the champion is as good as decided, everything else is to play for so i can't wait already. Laguna always leaves me a little bit hungry by neglecting the GP support classes, its a shame really because the venue and the buzz surrounding the event are up there with the best, but it only puts on about half the show.
Lorenzo is really going from strength to strength at the moment, he isn't putting a foot wrong, hes always quick and he's making the right decisions of when to push and when not to push. I think he will be unstoppable this year and is well on his way to becoming world champion and Spains greatest ever premier class rider.
Dani, needed to win. Just like Casey in the second half of 08 finishing second is a total waste of time so well done to him for going all out to try, its a shame it didn't come off and i just hope he can keep his good form rolling over the summer because i hope he can be on it next year wen he comes up against Stoner head to head
The battle for 2nd overall is far from over, Rossi must be getting ideas. Another good ride from him, you could see at the end of that he was exhausted. Funny in the press conference he looked considerably more tanned than the other two, i wonder if a lot of his recovery involved sunbathing..... haha
Dovi was solid and at least he didn't crash, but he just looks that little bit unconvincing as if he's a borderline alien. I wonder what he will become in the long run i think its about time he won a dry race. Further back Spies was obviously giving it his all, but unusually made quite a few mistakes. It was nice for Nicky to be top american but i'm sure they'd all liked to have been fighting for the podium. With the 6 factory bikes locking out the top 6 places in the standings, the bottom half of the top ten looks like something worth fighting for in the second half of the year. Melandri has done a quiet job of getting into the best of the rest fight, maybe enough to keep him involved next year, but RDP was performing better before the injury. Rookie of the year i think is far from over too.
At the back, you have to wonder what this switch to moto2 has done to DeAngelis, he is not nearly the rider he used to be and he hasn't exactly set the world on fire before that anyway, its a shame but i don't think we'll see a whole lot more of him at the sharp end of GP racing.
Looking at Roger Lee this weekend, for me just showed the reason why riders like Crutchlow turn down mid season motogp opportunities. With no seat time at all its foolish to expect any riders to make an impact quickly, and i think the testing rules should be altered to encourage new rider development. Perhaps each team should have one engine allocated for testing purposes, which cannot be ridden by a current motogp rider.
The seasons half way over now and even though the champion is as good as decided, everything else is to play for so i can't wait already. Laguna always leaves me a little bit hungry by neglecting the GP support classes, its a shame really because the venue and the buzz surrounding the event are up there with the best, but it only puts on about half the show.
I would love to see them go back to a screamer for stoner barry and gecko-hunter, but although I would guess they have some 2009 engines hanging about which as I understand it could be legally used, it is rather unlikely to happen as you no doubt know. Apart from the wish to make the ducati rideable by those not named casey stoner when they switched to big-bang, I believe the advantage of the screamer involved high revs which are not compatible with the current longevity-requiring engine rules; they would have to decide not to worry about their position in the riders and manufacturers championships and just go for race wins (not a bad idea but unlikely to be considered so by ducati), and would also be running a bike which would not be contributing to their future direction and next year's bike in particular which I imagine will not be a screamer.
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Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
nope the moment it became a championship where points are awarded down to 15th place finisher
and we had 14.13.12.finishing regular etc it became a farce a non championship
when teams can virtually guarantee a championship point just for turning up it . It's not a World championship event in the real sense
2009
usa 12 finish
brno 13 finish
indy 14 finish
smarino 14 finish
portugal 14 finish
2010 omg lol
Hands up the Rossifans in this lot
Just remember for all your misery there are Lorenzo fans out there who are on a high and see this race as one of the best, just as you would if Rossi won. So why start the sooking at something that is not to blame, only Rossi is causing your distress.
how long you been watching motogp for 3 months only ? those red glasses are doing your eyes no good
2010
qatar 13 finish
le mans 13 finish
mugello 14 finish
uk 13 finish
ger 12 finish
usa 12 finish
2010 most finishing is 15
there's not been 16 finishing a single race (ie not a single rider out of the points)
pretty piss poor for a world championship nowt to do with fanboys boppers
how long you been watching motogp for 3 months only ? those red glasses are doing your eyes no good
2010
qatar 13 finish
le mans 13 finish
mugello 14 finish
uk 13 finish
ger 12 finish
usa 12 finish
2010 most finishing is 15
there's not been 16 finishing a single race (ie not a single rider out of the points)
pretty piss poor for a world championship nowt to do with fanboys boppers
Somewhat annoying that as a Rossi fan you cannot raise any argument on this forum no matter subject without one or two of the haters imediatly connecting it with Rossi and making it into a "booper" thing.
As long as it is good old BM it really doesn't matter, after all nobody really care what he says, but as I said, in the end it gets to yo sort of.
The big looser is the debate that get obstructed by these clowns again and again. It's a well known troll tacktic though and they should be handled as such.
You have to admire what jorge is doing, but he is riding so smoothly he doesn't look to be pushing the limits; perhaps this is part of his genius. I think there are prospects for a better race for the podium places at brno, more of a power circuit which may suit dani's current bike and where valentino will be closer to being recovered.
I don't think the premier class can long sustain the current numbers at the start of the races, let alone at the end thereof.
Joined Jun 2007
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Norah Head
how long you been watching motogp for 3 months only ? those red glasses are doing your eyes no good
2010
qatar 13 finish
le mans 13 finish
mugello 14 finish
uk 13 finish
ger 12 finish
usa 12 finish
2010 most finishing is 15
there's not been 16 finishing a single race (ie not a single rider out of the points)
pretty piss poor for a world championship nowt to do with fanboys boppers
If it is so "piss poor" and you dislike it so much ............... why do you watch /get into it
Ditto for Babel
I might stand alone here but I was thoroughly entertained by the little battle behind 3rd place,shame Ben over ran that corner.And as for Rossi....outstanding ride (and I`m no Rossi bopper),very impressive.Now for the 3 weeks of cold turkey! Ouch.
Joined Aug 2007
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Pomona NY
More than anything, I think Lorenzo does it because he has a personality deficit. He has none
of Rossi's charisma - so he does these lame theatrics in a sad attempt to seem as personable
as Vale. Once in front of the mike, he's a boring as the majority of the riders, who never really
answer the questions they're asked and just dole out a laundry list of what they did right and
what they did wrong and thanks to all their sponsors. Blah blah blah.
Joined Feb 2007
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Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
if your in the uk its repeated a lot on sky/freesat bbc1 red button its on now
if your not in the uk there's places out there to get your fix
Joined Feb 2007
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Rovrum S,Yorks Eng
If it is so "piss poor" and you dislike it so much ............... why do you watch /get into it
Ditto for Babel
i'm a fan and it needs to be better than it is now.Ends
Absolutely agree, and that piece of nothing wants to take Rossi's place. Earlier I thought Stoner was boring, but now I see how wrong I was.
He already has taken Rossi's place, he's dominating the championship, leading his team, and is going to take Rossi's world championship with it. This is the easily the closest challenge Rossi has had to his status of figurehead in the sport. I think we'll all agree Rossi remains ahead on PR charisma and generally being a clown but Lorenzo has taken the edge on riding (the real prize here) already, and if rumours are to believed he's done such a thorough job of it that Rossi sees no way back and is leaving the team.
i'm surprised so many people disliked the race. Lorenzo is so awesome. i can't think of a rider as dominate or as entertaining as him in recent memory.
Joined Aug 2007
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Pomona NY
If you watch the post race interview with Spies - he says they had the speed to do the job,
but he'd basically lost his concentration after making one or two mistakes. He made no
excuses. And really you have to hand to him - he was up there at the pointy end and doing
good for a guy in his rookie year. I think fans of the Pie Man may have had overly high expectations
- me included.
