Its official! Dani to Stones!

To me, a contract is a contract and should therefore be honoured irrespective of whether the times are good or bad. IMO, the failure to honour a contract reflects poorly on the integrity of the person/s breaking the said contract whether or not the reasons may be deemed as valid or not (assuming that the contract does not have a 'get out' clause).

As such, IMO this reflects poorly on Pedrosa as an individual and his entire management team.

That said, this is a good time to use the remainder of the season to test under true race conditions, not simulations and therefore a 'good' decision within those parameters.

The unfortunate aspect for me is that over the last few years we have not really seen any 'leadership' from Pedrosa but rather he comes across as a follower which (IMO) does not auger well for his career.







Garry

What I'd like to know is why Hayden didn't get a choice in changing too?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Michelin has confirmed that it will continue to supply Hayden, who has missed the last two races with an injury. The 2006 champion said he had not been involved in any discussions about changing to Bridgestones.

"I'm not going to be switching tyres," he told Eurosport. "I didn't have the option, there was no choice for me to make. On my side I won't be switching."

Autosport link

I also read somewhere ( trying to find a link ) that Puig went to other Michelin teams during Brno weekend and tried to get them to back a boycott of the race.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (citadina @ Aug 31 2008, 11:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Let me just add that the runner up in this race was far more injured then Dani AND running with Michelin tires...must be the stars that didn´t line up for Dani, tire change should help with that.

Let me just add that Lorenzo is currently not injured at all, so Dani is in fact more hurt. Also as i mentioned elsewhere, changing tyres will do Dani's psychology a lot of good. Rossi wasn't top Michelin last year but still had to leave.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Sep 1 2008, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Excellent post. If Dani was half the racer that Jorge is, I'd be a hell of a lot more impressed.

Stand by for Toms post saying he always respected Vale for getting Stones, right along with his post saying he always thought that dangerous riding should be penalised.

Pete

See if you were able to read and/or open your mind for a few seconds you could actually see that i mentioned just yesterday that i do not support the tyre jumping, but after my initial reaction to Rossi complaining his way to what he wanted i understood that he must do what he can. Keep up buddy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Frizzle @ Sep 1 2008, 04:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What I'd like to know is why Hayden didn't get a choice in changing too?

Because he's not a title or even a top 5 contender...and HRC don't care about Nicky...his market pull is less than that of Dani for the Spanish Repsol company....and you can put him on the Ducati with Bridgestones and he will still not be as great as Rossi, Dani and Casey

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 1 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>See if you were able to read and/or open your mind for a few seconds you could actually see that i mentioned just yesterday that i do not support the tyre jumping, but after my initial reaction to Rossi complaining his way to what he wanted i understood that he must do what he can. Keep up buddy.

Yeah, and you also live under the illusion that it is their psykie that need the stones not their bikes.
Sorry tom you are in deep water here. Looking at the three previous rounds and then insulting the riders by saying that this is a psykological thing. Jeeezz, I thought you could analyze results better than that.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Babelfish @ Sep 1 2008, 08:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, and you also live under the illusion that it is their psykie that need the stones not their bikes.
Sorry tom you are in deep water here. Looking at the three previous rounds and then insulting the riders by saying that this is a psykological thing. Jeeezz, I thought you could analyze results better than that.

I'm not insulting the riders or saying that the Bridgestones arent the better tyre, but Dani hasn't been top Michelin runner at the last two rounds, and he was miles off in Brno. I know he's not completely over his injury yet, but it think there is more to it than that. Confidence is everything.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 1 2008, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Let me just add that Lorenzo is currently not injured at all, so Dani is in fact more hurt. Also as i mentioned elsewhere, changing tyres will do Dani's psychology a lot of good. Rossi wasn't top Michelin last year but still had to leave.
well Dr tom, he broke his 3rd metatarsal at laguna which takes about 8 weeks to heal then normally physio after that so i would not go so far as to say "Lorenzo is currently not injured at all". whats wrong with dani ?

The official statements:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Repsol´s Sporting Sponsoring Director, Arturo Sus, commented on behalf of the company.

`On behalf of Repsol, we´d like to thank Michelin for their understanding of the situation and the way that they handled it. Having said this, our role as the main sponsor of the Repsol Honda team is to push the team, factory and even the rider when we think we have to push to get the results we expect to get from our investment in racing.

`For Repsol it was not good enough, and we decided to push Honda to do anything to get Bridgestone. It was not easy for us, Honda and Michelin of course. A decision like this implies some other movements and we thought it was the right thing to do. We talked to Michelin after Brno to agree on the fact it was the best decision for everybody.´
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Pedrosa...mmediate+effect

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Press Release from Michelin

`For 24 years Michelin and Honda have worked together at the highest level of motorcycle racing. Together the two companies have won 14 premier-class World Championships. The two companies fully understand the importance of the `feeling´ between the rider and the equipment he has at his disposal, especially tyres.

Despite making an excellent start to the season and leading the World Championship going into the German GP, during the last few races Dani Pedrosa has made it know to both Michelin and Honda that he doesn´t feel at ease with the tyres that Michelin have offered him.

Honda and Michelin believe that rider confidence needs to be at its maximum if the rider is to fully exploit the tactical potential of the tyres. In these circumstances Michelin and Honda have therefore decided not to equip Pedrosa with Michelin tyres for the remainder of the 2008 season.´
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Micheli...idgestone+tyres

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>Pedrosa comments: `I thank Michelin and Honda for their mutual understanding and for agreeing to my personal demands. I am very conscious of the fact that I have made some excessively negative comments about Michelin tyres, even though Michelin helped me make an exceptional start to the season.´
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Micheli...idgestone+tyres

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dannyisnow @ Aug 31 2008, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi's m1 pretty much had to be turned upside down to get it working with the bridgestones, setting up that rc212v to work with the tyres is gunna require a lot of commitment from both rider and engineers.. it wont happen over night. It was only 3 or 4 races into the season that rossi said he felt that him and the team fully understood the bridgestones.
And Rossi's great at developing a bike. What's Pedrosa like with doing this?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 1 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well Dr tom, he broke his 3rd metatarsal at laguna which takes about 8 weeks to heal then normally physio after that so i would not go so far as to say "Lorenzo is currently not injured at all". whats wrong with dani ?

I only say he isn't injured at all because he said it on the BBC. I don't know exactly how injured Dani is at the moment, but his wrist is still well strapped up and the eurosport team seemed sure he wasn't 100%. Its not too important though because I don't think Dani's performance at Misano was down to injury.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 1 2008, 03:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I only say he isn't injured at all because he said it on the BBC. I don't know exactly how injured Dani is at the moment, but his wrist is still well strapped up and the eurosport team seemed sure he wasn't 100%. Its not too important though because I don't think Dani's performance at Misano was down to injury.
so you were talking out of your arse again. lorenzo would say this because he is a tough boy, dani on the other hand more than likely has his wrist strapped because he is to weak to brake hard so need his wrists strapping.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 1 2008, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>so you were talking out of your arse again. lorenzo would say this because he is a tough boy, dani on the other hand more than likely has his wrist strapped because he is to weak to brake hard so need his wrists strapping.

Yea i'm talking out of my arse While you insist that all the evidence is wrong and that both Dani and Lorenzo are deceiving us about their injuries simultaneously in different directions. Likely.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 1 2008, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Yea i'm talking out of my arse While you insist that all the evidence is wrong and that both Dani and Lorenzo are deceiving us about their injuries simultaneously in different directions. Likely.
well thats just say i didnt here lorenzo say he is "not at all injured" on eurosport !

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MigsAngel @ Sep 1 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Because he's not a title or even a top 5 contender...and HRC don't care about Nicky...his market pull is less than that of Dani for the Spanish Repsol company....and you can put him on the Ducati with Bridgestones and he will still not be as great as Rossi, Dani and Casey
Crucially tho hes got 1 thing the Pedrobot doesnt.a premier class world title oh and a sense of loyalty thats 2 things then

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 1 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>well thats just say i didnt here lorenzo say he is "not at all injured" on eurosport !

Well Lorenzo has a history this year of being pretty honest (sometimes arguably too honest) about himself and he said "I am fine now, healthily speaking,". He also showed no evidence at all of being hurt. Dani has been pretty hard about his injuries this year, even making a rediculous attempt to play down his injuries and ride in the USA and still shows signs of being hurt.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thom @ Sep 1 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Crucially tho hes got 1 thing the Pedrobot doesnt.a premier class world title oh and a sense of loyalty thats 2 things then

Dani has been with HRC for about 8 years now, he's plenty loyal.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Sep 1 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well Lorenzo has a history this year of being pretty honest (sometimes arguably too honest) about himself and he said "I am fine now, healthily speaking,". He also showed no evidence at all of being hurt. Dani has been pretty hard about his injuries this year, even making a rediculous attempt to play down his injuries and ride in the USA and still shows signs of being hurt.
http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team

Dani is a little ...... He tests like one and also races like one. So he pissed and moaned after he can't have his advantage. .... him and his buttboy mgr puig. He will never win a championship.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 1 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team

Why did you post this link

Well if you haven't looked over at motogpmatters.com
Pedrosa was pretty dang fast on the Hayden Pneumatic valved bike. Lookes like Hayden can develop a bike after all.