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Indy practice quali and predictions

Show me where I have been inconsistent.....or just STFU you little girl.
Well how about when you spout your usual brand of poorly judged attempts at being inflammatory, only to called out by various members & then retract your comments stating your are only winding up the boppers.



To then with a seemingly straight face condemn a certain rider of lacking conviction in his statements?



That good enough for ya?



I got your tone, your tone of surprise that I should be wishing hurt riders well. Any ...... on here I have conversed with knows where I draw the line.
 
If Suzuki and Kawasaki were winning in the pre fuel/engine restricted 990 era I might believe you. Unfortunately they werent, in fact if anything they started getting more competitive with 800's. And as you already pointed out Honda did poorly under their own brilliant scheme, while for one year at least Ducati prospered. Kind of strange tactics. More likely Honda got conned into a bad idea by Pedro, Puig and Repsol.



No the new and more worrying unobtainium is the riders with the massive backing of powerful personal sponsors being heralded as the chosen ones, no questions asked. Ask Luthi, Bradl and Espargaro if they think Marquez is better and deserves the special treatment.



What matters is how many bikes and riders are competitive, it is not that each make has to win in turn: if there is close competition among several riders and bikes that's enough even if at the end it is always one that wins for some time. There was better competition with the 2 strokers even when Doohan was winning strings of titles, but also with the 990s after a couple of seasons, when Yamaha and Ducati got it right. Look at 2006: Ducati, Honda, Yamaha, both factory and satellite models, -- many bikes and riders were competitive and contenders for the title. Suzuki and Kawa would have been also competitive soon enough, if only the rules had not been changed again. But they were with the 800cc and 21 liters... When that plan backfired on Honda they upped the game even more with the 6 engines rule etc. End result: Suzuki and Kawa out, Ducati in deep ....., only Honda and Yamaha still fighting (at a huge cost) and only 12 MotoGP bikes on the grid, of which only 3, 2 Hondas and 1 Yamaha, can fight for a win. Great. Is that Rossi's fault? Or Ezpeleta's? Please... You are entitled to your opinion of course, but I can have mine and I think it is better supported by these facts.
 
Hence why you should blame them. Chops taught me how to properly prepare this evil satanic "beverage" (seriously, look it up, you ever heard of the founder of the Church of Satan, Aleister Crowley, well he drank the stuff).
Anton LaVey was the founder of the Church Of Satan. The least of Crowley's problems Absinthe.
 
King Kenny on what is wrong with MotoGP, and how he'd fix it. Contains info which is relevant here. Povol is going to hate it.

http://cyclenews.cov...s/20120821#pg73

Kenny hates Honda but still used Honda engines? Is that sleeping with the enemy. Why didnt he get engines from Yamaha or Suzuki or Kawasaki then? Whinging about Honda is like whinging about Usain Bolt's longer legs. Its pointless. Run faster then. No, they cry, make Usain run slower.



Sack Carmelo, put someone competent in charge, there wont be a problem with Honda.
 
Roberts makes one very astute point - "Until they can get a rider that can push that motorcycle to it's limit, they're going to be 4-5 seconds off the pace...there's not that many riders that can ride that motorcycle to it's limit - that I know... but they've got to be able to go faster than what they''re going right now, otherwise they screwed up so bad."



We have a disparity between the top CRTs (Espargaro, De Puniet) and the top Factory riders (Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Stoner, Dovisiozo, Rossi, Spies) and the rest that often gets ignored. Within the factory riders there is also a gap - Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa - arguably Rossi - are much better than the rest. Spies and Dovi have flashes of brilliance, but it's so few and far between that it counts as an anomaly.



So there is the real problem - there isn't enough talent. Actually, that's not quite true. There's plenty of talent, enough to give us a fight, at least. But little enough that they really shouldn't have a situation where one of the brightest of those talents has decided to hang up his gloves because of ......... And there are two talents (Espargaro and De Puniet) riding round on CRTs while the likes of Crutchlow and Bautista have factory bikes... that they are doing ....-all with.



The CRTs are banging on the door of good performance, after less than a year of competition. They aren't the dogs that were predicted. But the difference between Aleix and Randy and the Honda of Bautista was about a third of a second and less than a second to the Tech3. I wonder what those two riders would be doing with a Gresini, an LCR? Are we missing out on another Simoncelli here? De Puniet qualified his ART 1.6 seconds down on Pedrosa - that's a guy riding the socks of his bike, right there.



So much has been said of who 'deserves' a factory ride for next year but those two names never come up - de Puniet and Espargaro - and I wonder why? On current performance, they are the stand-out lower order team riders that really deserve a shot at the good stuff, IMO.
 
Roberts makes one very astute point - "Until they can get a rider that can push that motorcycle to it's limit, they're going to be 4-5 seconds off the pace...there's not that many riders that can ride that motorcycle to it's limit - that I know... but they've got to be able to go faster than what they''re going right now, otherwise they screwed up so bad."



We have a disparity between the top CRTs (Espargaro, De Puniet) and the top Factory riders (Lorenzo, Pedrosa, Stoner, Dovisiozo, Rossi, Spies) and the rest that often gets ignored. Within the factory riders there is also a gap - Stoner, Lorenzo, Pedrosa - arguably Rossi - are much better than the rest. Spies and Dovi have flashes of brilliance, but it's so few and far between that it counts as an anomaly.



So there is the real problem - there isn't enough talent. Actually, that's not quite true. There's plenty of talent, enough to give us a fight, at least. But little enough that they really shouldn't have a situation where one of the brightest of those talents has decided to hang up his gloves because of ......... And there are two talents (Espargaro and De Puniet) riding round on CRTs while the likes of Crutchlow and Bautista have factory bikes... that they are doing ....-all with.



The CRTs are banging on the door of good performance, after less than a year of competition. They aren't the dogs that were predicted. But the difference between Aleix and Randy and the Honda of Bautista was about a third of a second and less than a second to the Tech3. I wonder what those two riders would be doing with a Gresini, an LCR? Are we missing out on another Simoncelli here? De Puniet qualified his ART 1.6 seconds down on Pedrosa - that's a guy riding the socks of his bike, right there.



So much has been said of who 'deserves' a factory ride for next year but those two names never come up - de Puniet and Espargaro - and I wonder why? On current performance, they are the stand-out lower order team riders that really deserve a shot at the good stuff, IMO.
While I admit no one including me ever brings up Espargaro, I've only seen two or three people on this forum who aren't fans of RDP. His name was even brought up as a possible for tech3. Most people on this forum would like to see RDP get his shot at a better bike and I for one think the CRTs while not being that great have at least extended the career of one of the riders I like. I'm hoping that if Aprilia come back to GP that they take care of RDP and put him on a factory ride for all his good work. The good thing for him is that he's first in line for any updates to the ART bikes.
 

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