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Honda threatens to quit MotoGP

Stability in the rules isn't a bad thing for the racing. I don't know anything about Honda's reasons or the future rules but it surprised me that they needed to say it to media insteed of only Dorna.
 
this would just be a nightmare for motogp ....i understand why they are mad tho
 
Wouldn't be a bad idea for all the big teams to tell Dorna to shove it where the sun don't shine and start a new race series. Bit like darts did with the PDC from the BDO cutting out the BBC.
 
I hope Honda quits, but we all know its just strong arm tactics in which they will eventually get their way. I have had the same reaction for anybody who threatens to quit over rules, Rossi 07-08, Stoner 11-12, and now Honda 12, .... them all. There is a process for rules making, Honda is part of it, despite them thinking they ARE the rules makers (since they essentially got their way for years).
 
I hope Honda quits, but we all know its just strong arm tactics in which they will eventually get their way. I have had the same reaction for anybody who threatens to quit over rules, Rossi 07-08, Stoner 11-12, and now Honda 12, .... them all. There is a process for rules making, Honda is part of it, despite them thinking they ARE the rules makers (since they essentially got their way for years).

agreed, just turns out one of those threats wasn't empty
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although for the record i agree its most likely not just crts but a whole collection of reasons why he's leaving



hondas not leaving, they're just looking to get a better compromise in the technical regulations / the rookie rule
 
agreed, just turns out one of those threats wasn't empty
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although for the record i agree its most likely not just crts but a whole collection of reasons why he's leaving



hondas not leaving, they're just looking to get a better compromise in the technical regulations / the rookie rule



Which threat would that be?
 
there was this one backmarker that threatened to leave if the series was to be dumbed down to superbike/crt level or whatever.

this was after rev limits and what else were confirmed to be implemented in the near future.
 
This is not the first time Honda have threatened to quit. The last time they fielded about 85% of the bikes on the grid so not much Dorna can do about that. I believe Puig even has an office in dorna, or he did.
 
MotoGP is a sinking ship. If I were Honda I would have bailed already. Let Captain Ezy go down with the ship and once he is gone start a new truly world championship series with real prototype bikes and good governance racing on great tracks ALL around the world with riders from ALL around the world.
 
MotoGP is a sinking ship. If I were Honda I would have bailed already. Let Captain Ezy go down with the ship and once he is gone start a new truly world championship series with real prototype bikes and good governance racing on great tracks ALL around the world with riders from ALL around the world.

Premier motorcycle gp racing existed long before Dorna and will continue long afterwards.
 
MotoGP is a sinking ship. If I were Honda I would have bailed already. Let Captain Ezy go down with the ship and once he is gone start a new truly world championship series with real prototype bikes and good governance racing on great tracks ALL around the world with riders from ALL around the world.



I tend to agree......only in part though!
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Honda have of course been the main contributor to the demise of Motogp with the inherent pressure to introduce the 800cc class in the first place, so they ...... it and now they want to .... off! ......kids....toys.....throwing.......cot....... The new 1000's aren't really that much different from the previous era, and certainly a long way off the 990's, I'm sure many in the ranks of management know this, but don't know how to return it, or moreso how to back away from what they've created with the major assistance of one big 'H'



WSBK is a far better spectacle, anyone of 5-6 riders can win on any given weekend, they have rubber which is varied in choice and performance, and a field of machines built entirely by separate manufacturers, not the 'Chassis cup' that we see in some of the supposed 'Premier Class'. For most punters, even the most staunch supports, the 2-3 second a lap difference between a Motogp bike and a WSBK makes no difference when the racing is that good.



If Hayden, Edwards, Spies and Rossi jumped ship to WSBK-it would be the end of Motogp..........In a way I hope it happens, as they are not heading the right way, and have not been for 5 years now.
 
I tend to agree......only in part though!
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Honda have of course been the main contributor to the demise of Motogp with the inherent pressure to introduce the 800cc class in the first place, so they ...... it and now they want to .... off! ......kids....toys.....throwing.......cot....... The new 1000's aren't really that much different from the previous era, and certainly a long way off the 990's, I'm sure many in the ranks of management know this, but don't know how to return it, or moreso how to back away from what they've created with the major assistance of one big 'H'







WSBK is a far better spectacle, anyone of 5-6 riders can win on any given weekend, they have rubber which is varied in choice and performance, and a field of machines built entirely by separate manufacturers, not the 'Chassis cup' that we see in some of the supposed 'Premier Class'. For most punters, even the most staunch supports, the 2-3 second a lap difference between a Motogp bike and a WSBK makes no difference when the racing is that good.







If Hayden, Edwards, Spies and Rossi jumped ship the WSBK-it would be the end of Motogp..........In a way I hope it happens, as they are not heading the right way, and have not been for 5 years now.



The 800's would have had no impact on the success of MotoGP had Dorna been promoting the sport and expanding it's international flavour rather than contracting it.



The problem with MotoGp and the wild and ridiculous rule changes that are coming thick and fast is 100% due to a lack of revenues and has nothing to do with Honda, 800's, fuel regs or control tyre.



People will flock to what ever they are sold. The quality of the product is really a minor concern for the majority. Hardcore fans of course will understand the product in much more depth and recognise quality or the lack of it but the sheeple just suck up what they are sold. Dorna have failed in epic proportions to sell MotoGP.
 
The 800's would have had no impact on the success of MotoGP had Dorna been promoting the sport and expanding it's international flavour rather than contracting it.



The problem with MotoGp and the wild and ridiculous rule changes that are coming thick and fast is 100% due to a lack of revenues and has nothing to do with Honda, 800's, fuel regs or control tyre.



People will flock to what ever they are sold. The quality of the product is really a minor concern for the majority. Hardcore fans of course will understand the product in much more depth and recognise quality or the lack of it but the sheeple just suck up what they are sold. Dorna have failed in epic proportions to sell MotoGP.



Disagree, the product needs to be right to go up against the big 4 wheel boys, before you can sell it. The 800's were a turd, you can only polish a turd so much.......
 
Push a turd so far, your right as usual Talps Honda should take their $400 Million Budget and .... off.

That will .... em
 
MotoGP is a sinking ship. If I were Honda I would have bailed already. Let Captain Ezy go down with the ship and once he is gone start a new truly world championship series with real prototype bikes and good governance racing on great tracks ALL around the world with riders from ALL around the world.



I agree, i see Carmelo is now thinking of relaxing the rookie rule...what a spineless .....
 
The rookie rule was crap. It just made MGP stale.



Why is it the boppers that are kicking up such a stink about this? Is it because its something that keeps Rossi off a factory Honda?
 

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