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They're talking about the Pramac Ducati's next year not being the 2014 bike, but instead being this years bike with spec ECU and the 24L of fuel. I hope Ducati have tested to make sure that will actually be slower than their full factory effort...
 
If thats the case, why dont they claim all as production spec?


Can a manufacturer enter as "production" without a "factory" effort?
 
barbedwirebiker
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If thats the case, why dont they claim all as production spec?


Can a manufacturer enter as "production" without a "factory" effort?


 


Yes. So long as you use the spec ECU you can do whatever you like. The RCV is really just an RC213V with a spec ECU, steel springs and a different fuel tank.
 
Another question. Is CRT officially dead in 2014 or will it be a four tier championship. Factory - satellite - production - CRT?
 
CRT is dead, but it was really just a name anyway. You could still run a 2013 CRT bike next year, but you'll need to use the spec ECU.


 


I think.
 
The big question IS will the non-MSMA teams get to use the softer option Bridgestone. This will be the performance leveling decision of the off-season.


Like any other rule, it will depend on the League's (Dorna's) calculations.
 
Jumkie
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The big question IS will the non-MSMA teams get to use the softer option Bridgestone. This will be the performance leveling decision of the off-season.


Like any other rule, it will depend on the League's (Dorna's) calculations.


Good question, so far the answer is yes, But putting things in perspective, MM can pretty much do what Stoner did, so he could probably lap the production racer within .3 of his factory bike without the soft tyre, which means he would have taken pole on it today, Nicky will podium this bike, and I will put money on it.
 
the-insider
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Good question, so far the answer is yes, But putting things in perspective, MM can pretty much do what Stoner did, so he could probably lap the production racer within .3 of his factory bike without the soft tyre, which means he would have taken pole on it today, Nicky will podium this bike, and I will put money on it.


I'm sure there are some on here who will take you up on that offer.  I would only caution that 'natural talents' like Stoner can make any bike go quick (except for my old Honda CB125T)
 
Garbin
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I'm sure there are some on here who will take you up on that offer.  I would only caution that 'natural talents' like Stoner can make any bike go quick (except for my old Honda CB125T)


Are you saying the MM isn't a natural talent?
 
the-insider
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Good question, so far the answer is yes, But putting things in perspective, MM can pretty much do what Stoner did, so he could probably lap the production racer within .3 of his factory bike without the soft tyre, which means he would have taken pole on it today, Nicky will podium this bike, and I will put money on it.


Nah, not buying it. cant see it being that quick, thats fantasy. I hope you're right though. I would love to have a bet with you, but being a trainee Krishna devotee i'm not permitted to bet.
 
chopperman
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Nah, not buying it. cant see it being that quick, thats fantasy. I hope you're right though. I would love to have a bet with you, but being a trainee Krishna devotee i'm not permitted to bet.


Funny, I was told that a lot in this thread, Casey's best laps on the proddy were .3 behind his best lap on the factory bike without the soft tyre, what is there not to buy.
 
JohnnyKnockdown
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The Insider will be crawling back Inside the arsehole he emerged from come tue at 4:00 Valencia time


That's almost funny, I see you had nothing of substance to add to this 15 page thread, so climb back in your uneducated unknowledgeable arsehole from which you came. no need for you to wait till Tuesday.
 
the-insider
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Funny, I was told that a lot in this thread, Casey's best laps on the proddy were .3 behind his best lap on the factory bike without the soft tyre, what is there not to buy.


But you don't know the lap times of next years factory bikes. You seem to be laying all your faith on a couple of laps at one particular tract on a particular day. If only it were that easy !  Next year will be the proof, when we see proper comparisons  .,


By the way, it has not gone un-noticed you have ignored every question i have asked in this thread !
 
chopperman
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But you don't know the lap times of next years factory bikes. You seem to be laying all your faith on a couple of laps at one particular tract on a particular day. If only it were that easy !  Next year will be the proof, when we see proper comparisons  .,


By the way, it has not gone un-noticed you have ignored every question i have asked in this thread !


I was saying this bike was this good before any test times,  what questions?
 
You're quoting a 0.3 from a test and stating that would have put MM on poll. How do you figure when we have no idea what the time difference would have been at valencia? I take it the test times were from Motegi ?? excuse my ignorance as i dont often follow testing. One thing i do know is those two tracks are very different so any time difference could not be compared.


As for questions, i asked some about valve train but these are now talked of in the media, so too tate for your insider info. The other was regarding why the HRC promo pic shows the bike with Ohlins when you stated is would have Showa from Bautistas bike ?
 
chopperman
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You're quoting a 0.3 from a test and stating that would have put MM on poll. How do you figure when we have no idea what the time difference would have been at valencia? I take it the test times were from Motegi ?? excuse my ignorance as i dont often follow testing. One thing i do know is those two tracks are very different so any time difference could not be compared.


As for questions, i asked some about valve train but these are now talked of in the media, so too tate for your insider info. The other was regarding why the HRC promo pic shows the bike with Ohlins when you stated is would have Showa from Bautistas bike ?


Look, I started this thread saying this bike was going to be this good, I got a lot of ...., but stayed, I don't work for HRC, but I told you what I know, what I told you has been proved correct, I have been a way for a week following the death of my ladies father, how the .... would I know why the demo photo's have Ohlins and as for your  "it hasn't gone unnoticed" bit, I don't give a .... what you have or have not noticed, When someone comes into my world with some new info, I embrace it, you ego driven fuckwits call the messenger a ...., get over yourselves, and good ....... bye.
 

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