Joined Aug 2007
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Ducati’s strategy of having more bikes on the grid than any other team: not working out so good. Kind of think that the Ducati riders have a double-pressure working against them. They’re having to compete with all the other teams, and competing against each other to get full factory seats.
Any of the Oz crew know what’s going on with Michael M???
Any of the Oz crew know what’s going on with Michael M???
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Zarco: Nakagami Lost All Of The Credit We Gave Him
Suppo: It’s Inadmissable To Consider Nakagami’s Mistake As Racing Accident
Bagnaia: Masi Lost His Place In F1, We Need To Change Also In MotoGP
Not saying I agree with this, but it was inevitable. Spencer now finds himself in hot water for standing against the lynch mob.
Suppo: It’s Inadmissable To Consider Nakagami’s Mistake As Racing Accident
Bagnaia: Masi Lost His Place In F1, We Need To Change Also In MotoGP
Not saying I agree with this, but it was inevitable. Spencer now finds himself in hot water for standing against the lynch mob.
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Just watched the end of race presser with the podium guys, they unanimously said it wasn’t a racing incident. I guess you just can’t do it too many times in a row. The collective memory is strong.
Bias hat on.
Given that the factory have not exactly treated him in the same way that Bagnaia has been this year (bikes, apologies etc), I could see frustration boiling to the surface but for mine, just a bad race nothing more and something that happens from time to time.
Miller is one of the riders that I do not see going the dummy spit path into a poor results mode so don't feel KTM have any worry there, but do feel that if he is not supported by Ducati in a fair way (and I say with bias that I do not feel he has been - based on numerous comments) than we are likely to see more crashes and plenty of fire next season
Joined Aug 2008
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Here is why Dovi should pack up his leathers and slink back to a life of pasta and wine (from Kropo's Saturday Report):
"Andrea Dovizioso, on the other hand, did not believe that victory for his Yamaha stablemate Fabio Quartararo would be simple. "I think it will be very tough for Fabio to win tomorrow," the Italian said. "I think he has some chance, but it will be very tough. The only way to win, I think, will be to start first…. In a different way, I think it would be very tough."
For Dovizioso, it was Espargaro and Bagnaia who were better placed to take the win on Sunday. "I think Pecco and Aleix have a bit more chance. For two reasons: Because their pace is fast, especially in the afternoon when there is the heat. And when there is the heat, I think Fabio is not able to make the same speed in the middle of the corners as in the morning."
Squaring off the corner, braking deep, turning the bike quickly, and picking it up to accelerate, was a better way to handle low grip conditions than the long sweeping lines of the Yamaha, Dovizioso believes. "I think when there is the heat and the grip is lower, to be consistent, going fast, to cut the line - so entry, wait, pick up and go - is better. It’s easier," he said.
More the Ducati and Aprilia way, rather than the Yamaha way. "Ducati and Aprilia, yeah," Dovizioso agreed. "And they have the power to accelerate so I think it will be a bit harder compared to Mugello for Fabio. And the straight here is quite long - on the start, to be first in the first corner, is almost impossible. I think the competitors would have to do some mistake.""
"Andrea Dovizioso, on the other hand, did not believe that victory for his Yamaha stablemate Fabio Quartararo would be simple. "I think it will be very tough for Fabio to win tomorrow," the Italian said. "I think he has some chance, but it will be very tough. The only way to win, I think, will be to start first…. In a different way, I think it would be very tough."
For Dovizioso, it was Espargaro and Bagnaia who were better placed to take the win on Sunday. "I think Pecco and Aleix have a bit more chance. For two reasons: Because their pace is fast, especially in the afternoon when there is the heat. And when there is the heat, I think Fabio is not able to make the same speed in the middle of the corners as in the morning."
Squaring off the corner, braking deep, turning the bike quickly, and picking it up to accelerate, was a better way to handle low grip conditions than the long sweeping lines of the Yamaha, Dovizioso believes. "I think when there is the heat and the grip is lower, to be consistent, going fast, to cut the line - so entry, wait, pick up and go - is better. It’s easier," he said.
More the Ducati and Aprilia way, rather than the Yamaha way. "Ducati and Aprilia, yeah," Dovizioso agreed. "And they have the power to accelerate so I think it will be a bit harder compared to Mugello for Fabio. And the straight here is quite long - on the start, to be first in the first corner, is almost impossible. I think the competitors would have to do some mistake.""
Joined May 2019
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Where I am.
There's a limit, of course open to debate, between what constitutes an understandable error, beyond which, we move into the zone of 'irresponsible riding'. Neither case involves malicious or unsporting intent from the rider. After watching the incident several times, I find myself on the side of those being very critical of Nakagami.
It was a very nasty incident and I hope Nakagami is genuinely OK. The impact with Pecco's bike was horrific.
Great win by FQ. I didn't see that coming. I genuinely felt that PE had the race in the bag. PE's mistaking the race end was incredible.
Joined Oct 2008
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In Cider
Yamaha should have never signed him. He's on a factory bike getting beating by a rookie from Moto3 team mate who is on a year old bike.
Why don't Yamaha put Darryn B in Morbidelli's seat? He'd no doubt do better.
I actually agree with Bern that the crash itself was just a racing incident. It didn't seem particularly reckless. Just a guy charging up the inside, and then realizing he didn't have the space to miss his braking marker by a meter.
However, the consequences of the crash was so severe that I doubted anyone in the paddock would let it go. Nakagami sank a lot of battleships with his mistake. Rins hasn't scored since Portimao and he can't test today so Suzuki were going to be livid. Bagnaia was statistically eliminated from the championship picture, which simultaneously enraged Ducati and Dorna.
Spencer stuck his neck out for Nakagami, perhaps at HRC's request, and now at least Rins and Bagnaia have called for him to be replaced.
The tectonic plates are shifting, and Nakagami is standing on the fault line.
Joined Oct 2008
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Taka is merely keeping the Idemitsu seat warm for Agura. Sadly he;s been a token nationality rider for at least the last few yrs.
If it wasn't true before Catalunya, it's certainly true now, imo. There are too many people against him now, and HRC don't have any reason to save his career.
Not sure if they would boost him into EWC or keep him as a test rider. He's kicked the hornet's nest this time.
Catalunya Monday Test Timing - Final
1. - Fabio Quartararo - FRA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - 1m 39.447s
2. - Francesco Bagnaia - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP22) - +0.004s
3. - Johann Zarco - FRA - Pramac Ducati (GP22) - +0.053s
4. - Aleix Espargaro - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) - +0.111s
5. - Pol Espargaro - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +0.241s
6. - Jack Miller - AUS - Ducati Lenovo (GP22) - +0.295s
7. - Maverick Viñales - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) - +0.333s
8. - Franco Morbidelli - ITA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.348s
9. - Enea Bastianini - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP21) - +0.397s
10. - Fabio Di Giannantonio - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP21)* - +0.516s
11. - Brad Binder - RSA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.551s
12. - Joan Mir - SPA - Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) - +0.580s
13. - Luca Marini - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.600s
14. - Miguel Oliveira - POR - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.641s
15. - Remy Gardner - AUS - KTM Tech3 (RC16)* - +0.750s
16. - Alex Marquez - SPA - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +0.888s
17. - Stefan Bradl - GER - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +1.027s
18. - Michele Pirro - ITA - Aruba.it Racing (GP22) - +1.163s
19. - Andrea Dovizioso - ITA - WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) - +1.180s
20. - Darryn Binder - RSA - WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* - +1.299s
21. - Marco Bezzecchi - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* - +1.318s
22. - Raul Fernandez - SPA - KTM Tech3 (RC16)* - +1.697s
1. - Fabio Quartararo - FRA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - 1m 39.447s
2. - Francesco Bagnaia - ITA - Ducati Lenovo (GP22) - +0.004s
3. - Johann Zarco - FRA - Pramac Ducati (GP22) - +0.053s
4. - Aleix Espargaro - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) - +0.111s
5. - Pol Espargaro - SPA - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +0.241s
6. - Jack Miller - AUS - Ducati Lenovo (GP22) - +0.295s
7. - Maverick Viñales - SPA - Aprilia Racing (RS-GP) - +0.333s
8. - Franco Morbidelli - ITA - Monster Yamaha (YZR-M1) - +0.348s
9. - Enea Bastianini - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP21) - +0.397s
10. - Fabio Di Giannantonio - ITA - Gresini Ducati (GP21)* - +0.516s
11. - Brad Binder - RSA - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.551s
12. - Joan Mir - SPA - Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) - +0.580s
13. - Luca Marini - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP22) - +0.600s
14. - Miguel Oliveira - POR - Red Bull KTM (RC16) - +0.641s
15. - Remy Gardner - AUS - KTM Tech3 (RC16)* - +0.750s
16. - Alex Marquez - SPA - LCR Honda (RC213V) - +0.888s
17. - Stefan Bradl - GER - Repsol Honda (RC213V) - +1.027s
18. - Michele Pirro - ITA - Aruba.it Racing (GP22) - +1.163s
19. - Andrea Dovizioso - ITA - WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1) - +1.180s
20. - Darryn Binder - RSA - WithU Yamaha RNF (YZR-M1)* - +1.299s
21. - Marco Bezzecchi - ITA - Mooney VR46 Ducati (GP21)* - +1.318s
22. - Raul Fernandez - SPA - KTM Tech3 (RC16)* - +1.697s
There’s a point at which a rider has to accept that he is not a top tier competitor. If the rider accepts this, then there is a future for him as a “B” rider. Pedrosa, Dovi, Miller, Mamola, Hayden (as much as I loved him) and many others come to mind. Good performances and the occasional win on their day but otherwise mid pack most of the time.
When it comes to that point and the rider does not accept the “B” status designation, he will want to continue to prove that he is worthy of “A” status. In some cases he may succeed. Perhaps we are watching Aleix Espargaro complete this unlikely transformation. (?)
In many other cases, the rider continues to push, making errors that eventually put him out of a job, as the team gets tired of rebuilding the bike in this fruitless endeavor.
Nakagami, Rins, Mir and a couple of others are in this group. Morbidelli has already capitulated and accepted the “B” designation.
It’s a heartless world at the top of anything in sports, that’s why there is so little cream that rises.
When it comes to that point and the rider does not accept the “B” status designation, he will want to continue to prove that he is worthy of “A” status. In some cases he may succeed. Perhaps we are watching Aleix Espargaro complete this unlikely transformation. (?)
In many other cases, the rider continues to push, making errors that eventually put him out of a job, as the team gets tired of rebuilding the bike in this fruitless endeavor.
Nakagami, Rins, Mir and a couple of others are in this group. Morbidelli has already capitulated and accepted the “B” designation.
It’s a heartless world at the top of anything in sports, that’s why there is so little cream that rises.
Joined Nov 2015
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who was in Basti's pit?
he looks familiar but the "good life" has obviously taken it's toll...
Who was the fat *uck with the "B*stard" tee shirt?
these types need to remain in 'murca with their feeble, LOOK! at me attention grabs with their controversy skirting fashion choices.
he looks familiar but the "good life" has obviously taken it's toll...
Who was the fat *uck with the "B*stard" tee shirt?
these types need to remain in 'murca with their feeble, LOOK! at me attention grabs with their controversy skirting fashion choices.
Just got around to watching the race. I don't know if even Pecco would have had anything for Fabs but I feel Taka robbed me of a battle I really wanted to see. And Aleix, I knew something was coming because I got a semi-spoiler from youtube but I sure has heck didn't think it was going to be that.
Yeah, unfortunately it happens to everyone, including the Kentucky Kid. Nick is my all-time favorite by a country mile, but he still had issues towards the end of his GP tenure.
I'll never forget him flying over the highside at Sachsenring (2010? 2011?) during a wet practice session and literally landing on top of Nicolo Canepa, who still has the footage of accident on his youtube channel.
Nick was lucky that happened in practice and he was a world champ. Nakagami is not so lucky.
Luca Marmorini, ex F-1 engine designer for Toyota and Ferrari, To Assist Yamaha
Another background consultant in the MotoGP-technology-complex emerges. Marmorini has also worked with Aprilia in MotoGP.
Another background consultant in the MotoGP-technology-complex emerges. Marmorini has also worked with Aprilia in MotoGP.
Jack Miller's Tirade Against Michelin
Laid-back-Jack is losing his cool. Maybe it's justified. Maybe it's not. The most important take away is that Michelin has a lot of detractors in the paddock, making severe allegations. Not sure if it's a perception problem, or their QC is deteriorating again.
Laid-back-Jack is losing his cool. Maybe it's justified. Maybe it's not. The most important take away is that Michelin has a lot of detractors in the paddock, making severe allegations. Not sure if it's a perception problem, or their QC is deteriorating again.
This is all despite Dorna attempting to gag the riders about Michelin. There has been huge complaints since day 1 with Michelin and we've seen the return of highsides, something that had all but disappeared on top of the front washing out with no warning.
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