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Gossip: Honda RC213V's engine is a 90° L

Dr No said:
VSG???
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Ne're a truer question!!!! well may you ask what are VSG's



On here, apparently since Krop. posted it .... it means "Very Substantial Gossip"

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Sure produced a lot of very silly guesses.
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I have a question for the gossip producers ............



Why would Honda go to a format that is currently used in a bike that is fairly accepted as being "flawed"?



Are they so comfortable with their supremacy that they deliberately want to set themselves a challenge?



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VSG's ....... vibrating structure gyroscopes ........... beware!! they are everywhere!! ...... and nowhere ....... all depends at what point in time you measure for them ....... :wink:
 
BarryMachine said:
Why would Honda go to a format that is currently used in a bike that is fairly accepted as being "flawed"?
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What a Pile O'..... &trade;.



Honda currently employ a V4 - have done for years. They are changing the included angle, that's all. In nearly every case, that's done for packaging reasons. Possibly they need more room for their induction system. Who knows, but what I do know is, it isn't a conspiracy - they have sound engineering/marketing reasons for doing so.



As to the DS16 being flawed - more ......... It is one of the most powerful engines on the grid, they are having a .... time with their chassis, though.



VSGs? Microscopic, fleeting, inconsequential forces that have absolutely nothing to do with GP motorcycles.
 
BJ.C said:
What a Pile O'..... &trade;.



Honda currently employ a V4 - have done for years. They are changing the included angle, that's all. In nearly every case, that's done for packaging reasons. Possibly they need more room for their induction system. Who knows, but what I do know is, it isn't a conspiracy - they have sound engineering/marketing reasons for doing so.



As to the DS16 being flawed - more ......... It is one of the most powerful engines on the grid, they are having a .... time with their chassis, though.



VSGs? Microscopic, fleeting, inconsequential forces that have absolutely nothing to do with GP motorcycles.
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Where to start
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1. are you serious ....... ?



2. are you Roger .........?
 
BarryMachine said:
VSG's ....... vibrating structure gyroscopes ........... beware!! they are everywhere!! ...... and nowhere ....... all depends at what point in time you measure for them ....... :wink:
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And sometimes (about HALF the time!) the miniscule coriolis forces that so torture your farmyard dreams are kind enough to REVERSE themselves. Unless the pistons are somehow skipping the descending power and intake strokes, the net force inhibiting rotation of the chassis is essentially ZERO.
 
Geonerd said:
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And sometimes (about HALF the time!) the miniscule coriolis forces that so torture your farmyard dreams are kind enough to REVERSE themselves. Unless the pistons are somehow skipping the descending power and intake strokes, the net force inhibiting rotation of the chassis is essentially ZERO.
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Wrong,

The engine layout means it is acting as an Orgone Energy Accumulator, which is drawing orgone energy out of the area under the front tyre. The understeer is caused by the resultant localised damp patches under there.
 
Dr No said:
Wrong,

The engine layout means it is acting as an Orgone Energy Accumulator, which is drawing orgone energy out of the area under the front tyre. The understeer is caused by the resultant localised damp patches under there.
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Of course!! It's also possible the Orgone deficit is what was causing Casey's Lactose Intolerance...
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Dr No said:
Wrong,

The engine layout means it is acting as an Orgone Energy Accumulator, which is drawing orgone energy out of the area under the front tyre. The understeer is caused by the resultant localised damp patches under there.
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Isn't that purely a Scientologist thing?
 
Dr No said:
Seriously strange Austrian guy called Wilheim Reich made it up. But alt-energy conspiracists seem to like it, too.
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Well, he WAS a psychologist!
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A friend of mine, a typical Sedona Crystals and Auras Crowd member, likes to talk about Orgone hooey. It's amazing what people can/will believe in!
 
Geonerd said:
Well, he WAS a psychologist!
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A friend of mine, a typical Sedona Crystals and Auras Crowd member, likes to talk about Orgone hooey. It's amazing what people can/will believe in!
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If only more people believed, then the front end woes of the Duke could be banished. All it needs is some tubes and a water reservoir.
 
Dr No said:
Wrong,

The engine layout means it is acting as an Orgone Energy Accumulator, which is drawing orgone energy out of the area under the front tyre. The understeer is caused by the resultant localised damp patches under there.
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Amaziing! Can't believe there are people here who actually know who Willhelm Reich was.

However you judge him - he was an interesting guy. When I was a kid (circa '62) I had a few school

teachers who were really into him and we re-created some of his experiments. One was

a "cloud buster". One time we forgot to disconnect it and did not come back for a few weeks to the site

where it was assembled. All the stone walls of the little summer cabins in the vicinity had

turned a weird black and the tops of trees for a quarter mile radius had turned black and died.



The fact the American Medical Association working with the authorities hounded the guy

(who never caused harm to any patient) and were responsible for his dying in prison

sure did feed those conspiracies.
 
Keshav said:
Amaziing! Can't believe there are people here who actually know who Willhelm Reich was.

However you judge him - he was an interesting guy. When I was a kid (circa '62) I had a few school

teachers who were really into him and we re-created some of his experiments. One was

a "cloud buster". One time we forgot to disconnect it and did not come back for a few weeks to the site

where it was assembled. All the stone walls of the little summer cabins in the vicinity had

turned a weird black and the tops of trees for a quarter mile radius had turned black and died.



The fact the American Medical Association working with the authorities hounded the guy

(who never caused harm to any patient) and were responsible for his dying in prison

sure did feed those conspiracies.
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There is actually an Australian connection, to the orgone energy thing anyway, if not to casey stoner.



A very famous tintop racer, far more famous in Australia than stoner ever was, had a lucrative business putting out modified for performance versions of the local australian GM product, with factory backing. Influenced by his "guru", he became convinced of the orgone energy thing and started installing "energy polarisers" in his vehicles and making public claims as to the benefits of the "technology". This was too much for General Motors Holden who eventually disowned him despite loving him madly previously.
 
michaelm said:
There is actually an Australian connection, to the orgone energy thing anyway, if not to casey stoner.



A very famous tintop racer, far more famous in Australia than stoner ever was, had a lucrative business putting out modified for performance versions of the local australian GM product, with factory backing. Influenced by his "guru", he became convinced of the orgone energy thing and started installing "energy polarisers" in his vehicles and making public claims as to the benefits of the "technology". This was too much for General Motors Holden who eventually disowned him despite loving him madly previously.
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I have both the sticker and the instruction drawing that specifies where the sticker must be placed on the backglass to properly utilise/activate the Polariser. Sadly, I have never been able to find one.<edit: an actual Polariser unit, that is> (not that I've looked too hard) Some poor sap had to create and release that sticker and drawing.
 
Keshav said:
Amaziing! Can't believe there are people here who actually know who Willhelm Reich was.

However you judge him - he was an interesting guy. When I was a kid (circa '62) I had a few school

teachers who were really into him and we re-created some of his experiments. One was

a "cloud buster". One time we forgot to disconnect it and did not come back for a few weeks to the site

where it was assembled. All the stone walls of the little summer cabins in the vicinity had

turned a weird black and the tops of trees for a quarter mile radius had turned black and died.



The fact the American Medical Association working with the authorities hounded the guy

(who never caused harm to any patient) and were responsible for his dying in prison

sure did feed those conspiracies.
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He was of that era where barrier between mysticism and science wasn't as solid as it is now. Not to mention that his open attitude to ... contrasted heavily with the social mores of the times. Definitely an interesting bloke, a nutbag, but that's not a bad thing.



I thought a Cloudbuster was just tubes and water (easily mounted on a Duke GP13) and was supposed to help nature...maybe there is some dark Orgone, because you weren't ....... enough?



[On the topic of schools and nutbag ideas, there's a Steiner school near me. Another Austrian nutjob from the late-19th Century , whose otherwise interesting and generally enlightened ideas are marred by wackiness - like suggesting bull horns channel cosmic energy.]
 
Dr No said:
Not to mention that his open attitude to ... contrasted heavily with the social mores of the times. Definitely an interesting bloke, a nutbag, but that's not a bad thing.
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That explains a lot, and calling me 'Dear'....its all so clear now, you swing the bat!
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