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Sete Gibernau seems to have convinced Ducati that he still has what it takes to be a competitive MotoGP rider after crowning his second three-day 'comeback' test for the Italian factory with a best lap less than half-a-second slower than world champion Casey Stoner's official lap record.

Gibernau, who retired from MotoGP at the end of 2006 after losing his Ducati seat to Stoner, clocked up around 800kms during the second test. The Spaniard initially worked with the next year's carbon-fibre framed GP9, then the current GP8, before finishing with a final exit on the GP9 for a 'back to back' comparison.

The 35-year-old former double MotoGP World Championship runner-up made repeated runs of 4 or 5 laps and proved he had lost none of his fitness by lapping consistently in the low 1min 51secs range, despite air temperatures of over 30°C and track temperatures exceeding 50°C.

Sete had clocked a best lap time of 1min 51.7secs during his June test for Ducati, offered after an informal meeting at the Catalan Grand Prix, but set a very impressive 1min 50.5secs - with race tyres fitted to the GP8 - during this second outing.

Stoner set a new race lap record of 1min 50.003secs on his way to second place in June's Italian GP, but the next fastest Ducati lap was a 1min 51.181secs by Stoner's troubled team-mate Marco Melandri. Satellite Alice riders Toni Elias and Sylvain Guintoli set best race laps around the 1min 51.8secs mark.

Gibernau's best lap would have placed him fifth fastest during the race.

Official air and track temperatures during the Italian Grand Prix race were slightly lower than this week's test, being 29°C and 42°C respectively.

"I want to thank not only Ducati but also all the guys that have supported me here," declared Gibernau. "Some of them worked with me in 2006 and it was great to find ourselves together again. I've really enjoyed myself today and have had a completely new experience as a rider.

The faster you go, the more obvious it becomes that this bike demands a real physical and mental effort, but when you manage to ride it well, the satisfaction is unique.

"I hope my work has been of use to Filippo [Preziosi], to help understand the differences between the GP8 and GP9. They are two machines with characteristics typical of Ducati, and the GP9, although new, shows great potential."

But what happens now?

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Gibernau had already been tipped to replace Melandri, perhaps as early as next weekend's German Grand Prix, even before his impressive second test.

Melandri, who has taken only one top ten finish from his first nine starts as a factory Ducati rider, seems to have lost all hope of adapting to the Desmosedici - and is rumoured to be heading to Kawasaki - but is now expected to stay until at least the summer break, which begins after Laguna Seca on July 20.

Gibernau is surely poised to take Melandri's seat should a separation be agreed, and it is hard to believe that the current situation can continue for a full season, but Ducati Corse's general manager Filippo Preziosi confirmed only that further 'opportunities' for Gibernau will be evaluated.

"First of all I want to compliment Sete and thank him for the great job he has done here this week," stated Preziosi. "It is always a pleasure to work with an experienced rider like Sete and his feedback will undoubtedly help us.

"His comments are very similar to those made by Casey and Vittoriano and this confirms that we're proceeding in the right direction. We will evaluate with him whether there can be other opportunities for him to work with us on track with our bikes. He has certainly demonstrated that he's still able to ride very fast," Preziosi declared.

Preziosi also hopes Gibernau's speed will prove to Melandri and Elias that the Desmosedici is not just a bike built for Stoner.

I hope that this result will also spur on Marco and Toni," he said. "In the last months we have worked hard to improve the GP8 but I think I can now say that it is a good level and we hope that they too can get the most out of the machine in the coming races."

Guintoli has made gradual, but clear progress, with the Desmosedici in recent events, rising from the back of the field to the edge of the top ten.

link-http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/165738-2/gibernau_very_fast_but_will_he_race.html
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 4 2008, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think he will


me to tom, i think now hes had a taste for it hes realised what hes been missing he will come back even if its only for a season or 2.

and welcome to the forum lucky
 
I don't mind watching Rossi get beat. If Sete beat him that would be excellent. Then Sete could say" Hey man that's karma and I don't feel anything for Valentino whatsoever" and then we could all ramble on about how crass he is rather than what a wimp he is. I'd rather be known as crass than a wimp any day.

Bring him back he is a great rider.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gsfan @ Jul 4 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I don't mind watching Rossi get beat. If Sete beat him that would be excellent. Then Sete could say" Hey man that's karma and I don't feel anything for Valentino whatsoever" and then we could all ramble on about how crass he is rather than what a wimp he is. I'd rather be known as crass than a wimp any day.

Bring him back he is a great rider.
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i think the media made a lot more out of rossi's "you will never win another race" comment then there was. jurnos all like to call it a hex as do us fans but realistically i think it was more a case of rossi saying i will ride even harder if im racing you to make sure i win and not you.

i dont like gibbers although i respect him as a great rider. having said that i will still very much enjoy watching him race again
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 4 2008, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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i think the media made a lot more out of rossi's "you will never win another race" comment then there was. jurnos all like to call it a hex as do us fans but realistically i think it was more a case of rossi saying i will ride even harder if im racing you to make sure i win and not you.

i dont like gibbers although i respect him as a great rider. having said that i will still very much enjoy watching him race again
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Well said roger.
 
the ducati was designed for sete. he should definitly come back. what about biaggi. i hope he comes back too. but my dream rider would be agostini. man would be the best.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 4 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
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i think the media made a lot more out of rossi's "you will never win another race" comment then there was. jurnos all like to call it a hex as do us fans but realistically i think it was more a case of rossi saying i will ride even harder if im racing you to make sure i win and not you.
Of course the rossi hex on gibernau was shorthand for him totally intimidating sete mainly by repeatedly beating him on whatever bike he was on, whether better than, worse than or equal to sete's conveyance at the time. Rossi actually saying the words gave the journalists the chance to call it a hex, which I for once found quite amusing as opposed to many other journalistic constructions/inventions.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (michaelm @ Jul 6 2008, 06:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Of course the rossi hex on gibernau was shorthand for him totally intimidating sete mainly by repeatedly beating him on whatever bike he was on, whether better than, worse than or equal to sete's conveyance at the time. Rossi actually saying the words gave the journalists the chance to call it a hex, which I for once found quite amusing as opposed to many other journalistic constructions/inventions.

I think Jerez 05 was far more significant to sete's mentality than the qatar "hex". Rossi showed just what lenghts he was willing to go to in order to beat Sete, and at that point it must have started to feel like there was nothing he could do. Rossi's actions after the incident can be critisized but i think it was fundamental for Sete to feel as though Rossi would do it again rather than showing remorse.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 7 2008, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I think Jerez 05 was far more significant to sete's mentality than the qatar "hex". Rossi showed just what lenghts he was willing to go to in order to beat Sete, and at that point it must have started to feel like there was nothing he could do. Rossi's actions after the incident can be critisized but i think it was fundamental for Sete to feel as though Rossi would do it again rather than showing remorse.
what does that mean ? sete chose the outside line and was half a bike length behind rossi. imo there was no wrong doing by rossi and im sure the stewards in race control would have said something if there was. they were both gpoing in hot and i saw it as gibbers turned into rossi. some of you here moan the racing aint close anymore yet 3 years after this "close "race your still crying foul.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 7 2008, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what does that mean ? sete chose the outside line and was half a bike length behind rossi. imo there was no wrong doing by rossi and im sure the stewards in race control would have said something if there was-

Well Rossi's attempt at a pass was very contreversial, but he was willing to go for it. Race control took no action (a marginal but correct decision imo) but I don't many riders out there would be willing to make such a move, especially so early in the season.
 
i miss the 990s...any line you "THINK" you can take was possible back then...if you had the balls and or talent..just crack the gas open and rip....
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 7 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what does that mean ? sete chose the outside line and was half a bike length behind rossi. imo there was no wrong doing by rossi and im sure the stewards in race control would have said something if there was. they were both gpoing in hot and i saw it as gibbers turned into rossi. some of you here moan the racing aint close anymore yet 3 years after this "close "race your still crying foul.
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I saw this several times since then but I am still not convinced if Rossi would have taken that last corner in case he had not "rebounded" from Sete. Sete made a mistake, did not close the door enough but still he was the one on the ideal line not Rossi. Rossi went in way too hot, just look at the direction where his bike is going just before the collision! This move was at least questionable, for me it was dirty. I am quite sure if this situation had happened conversely, the fans of Rossi khm lets say...would have seen it a lot different.
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To be ontopic: I hope Sete comes back and at least on the last races gives Rossi some hard times. Because if Stoner goes on winning, the story will be the opposite as was in 3-4 years: Sete will only race for fun but the pressure will be on Rossi this time...and Sete now knows that even the big Rossi can be beaten. However I am not sure if Sete could be up to the front so soon, he will need a couple of races to be really competitive. Ducati is making a big mistake to let his entering delay, Melandri (with the Duke) will not take a single point from even Hayden...not to mention Pedrosa or Rossi. This 2 races might cost the championship for Ducati. If Melandri do not want to quit (cause of the money) so early, what about a 3rd bike till then?


Btw hi, I am new!
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And sorry about my grammar, my native language is not English.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (torro @ Jul 7 2008, 07:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I saw this several times since then but I am still not convinced if Rossi would have taken that last corner in case he had not "rebounded" from Sete. Sete made a mistake, did not close the door enough but still he was the one on the ideal line not Rossi. Rossi went in way too hot, just look at the direction where his bike is going just before the collision! This move was at least questionable, for me it was dirty. I am quite sure if this situation had happened conversely, the fans of Rossi khm lets say...would have seen it a lot different.
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To be ontopic: I hope Sete comes back and at least on the last races gives Rossi some hard times. Because if Stoner goes on winning, the story will be the opposite as was in 3-4 years: Sete will only race for fun but the pressure will be on Rossi this time...and Sete now knows that even the big Rossi can be beaten. However I am not sure if Sete could be up to the front so soon, he will need a couple of races to be really competitive. Ducati is making a big mistake to let his entering delay, Melandri (with the Duke) will not take a single point from even Hayden...not to mention Pedrosa or Rossi. This 2 races might cost the championship for Ducati. If Melandri do not want to quit (cause of the money) so early, what about a 3rd bike till then?


Btw hi, I am new!
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And sorry about my grammar, my native language is not English.
well if you look at about the middle of the vid you see sete do a very similar move on rossi. it was just great racing by both imo. i agree rossi went in to hot, you can see his foot off the peg and mabe your right in that he may not have made the corner had sete not punted him back on line. in the past peeps have stated rossi hung sete out to dry as a dirty move, thats what i dont agree with. tom said he thinks the stewards decision was right not to take action so thats cool as far as im concerned
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what pissed me off was all the bellyaching sete did afterwards. he just wasnt tough enough for motogp imo. all the lads that came through 125 and 250 are used to a bit of fairing bashing including biaggi.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 7 2008, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>what pissed me off was all the bellyaching sete did afterwards. he just wasnt tough enough for motogp imo. all the lads that came through 125 and 250 are used to a bit of fairing bashing including biaggi.

Rossi has since complained equally if not more about a far less dirty move, riders complain when they lose.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 7 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rossi has since complained equally if not more about a far less dirty move, riders complain when they lose.
which move ?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Jul 7 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>which move ?

Elias squezed him a bit on the breaks and he was pretty unhappy about it.
 

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