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warthog1

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Well MM's most dominant track.
Might be unproductive, with respect to Honda development, if he still manages to win.
If he is nowhere it will show just how piss poor that machine is, to them at least, (everybody else is already aware).
 
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Can't believe Schmarquez has the balls to say Zarco should have been more careful. What horseshit.
 
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Marquez seems to be losing his marbles, and vindicating the FIM in the process who tried to violate their own rules to force Marc to serve the penalty from Portimao. It was not the correct approach, imo, but Marc wants to convince the public otherwise. Vigilante justice is better than nothing in the case of Marquez?

Besides Honda riders being injured and terrible, the only other story is that 16 riders are within 1 second. It's a short lap, but a lot of riders are slumped over like they have no chance, when they are barely .5 off the pace. Zarco deserved better. He was leading the session early, and then right as the riders began to push, he gets annihilated coming out of the pits.

Though practice has lacked intrigue, imo, the sprint race and GP could be wild. Hopefully, everyone will be safe. Maybe Marquez needs a timeout.
 
Haven't watched it yet but it sounds like a stupid comment. Take out Zarco and blame him for it when he is out of the way and off the line.
 
Keshav said:
Can't believe Schmarquez has the balls to say Zarco should have been more careful. What horseshit.
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He was supported by Bezzechi, AMarquez (understandably) and Quartararo to name 3 all who said the onus is on the enttering rider to be careful and not enter with riders approaching

www.dazn.com

Álex Márquez y Maverick Viñales defienden a Marc en su pique con Johann Zarco: "El que tiene que vigilar es el que sale del box" | DAZN News España

Los pilotos de la parrilla de MotoGP valoran el incidente entre Marc Márquez y Johann Zarco en el GP de Alemania.
www.dazn.com www.dazn.com

www.gpone.com

MotoGP, Marini: "Ero dietro a Marquez quando è caduto: è stata una situazione critica"

MotoGP: "Si trovava nella traiettoria giusta, ma ha perso l'anteriore: forse aveva la media all'anteriore che nei primi giri magari non era ancora in temperatura. Chi esce dalla pitlane deve dare la precedenza, chi è in pista sa di poter spingere e non si deve preoccupare di chi sta entrando"
www.gpone.com www.gpone.com

MM did not say that Zarco caused it but that he should have taken more care on track entry - just as all other riders listed above stated.

IMO, the issue here is that the entry to the circuit is in a poor place by design and if a rider loses the front, anyone entering the circuit is at risk given where the lane leads
 
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warthog1 said:
Haven't watched it yet but it sounds like a stupid comment. Take out Zarco and blame him for it when he is out of the way and off the line.
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IMO, Zarco was wrong place and wrong time - bad timing essentially that totally destroyed Zarco's bike as a result.

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Gaz said:
IMO, Zarco was wrong place and wrong time - bad timing essentially that totally destroyed Zarco's bike as a result.

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I can't tell much from those photos apart from the fact he was nowhere near the racing line when struck by a riderless bike on its' side.

Bloody hell it hit hard!

Bit more here. Dunno. Maybe Marquez lost the front because he saw Zarco entering. Still struggling to place too much blame on Zarco. He was well off line.
 
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I can't tell much from those photos apart from the fact he was nowhere near the racing line when struck by a riderless bike on its' side.

Bloody hell it hit hard!

Bit more here. Dunno. Maybe Marquez lost the front because he saw Zarco entering. Still struggling to place too much blame on Zarco. He was well off line.
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MM has not blamed Zarco for his (MM's) crash but has made the point that Zarco was heading into a very dangerous area without taking to account that MM was about to occupy the same space (which is essentially the same comments from others)

The corner is a poor design in where the entry road is as when (in this case) Zarco has to enter he is close to or on the line taken by the fast rider - that is essentially all that the riders are saying. Not blaming Zarco for the accident (although some have said he was the one who could have avoided it by braking or accelerating - as AM claims he did in similar situation).

My bet, watch the pit exit point be changed within 12 months

Totally IMO but absolutely wrong place wrong time for Zarco and while I see the point made by MM and others it is kind of a mute point based on track design and the fact that Zarco has nowhere else to go.
 
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Bagnaia repeats the pole again. The Honda is the piggiest of all pigs this year. KTMs look good but perhaps not enough to stop the several Ducs that are going fast around this track. Let's see if the track is in better condition for the sprint because right now it's a crashfest.
 
Totally agree with Gaz. Zarco not to blame but the last place I would want to be is entering the track on the outside of corner one while a Honda RC-hiv is coming down the straight at me. That corner is a bad place to be when anyone is coming in hot. I still have the image of Pedrosa splatter into the airwall there stuck in my head. How quickly everyone blames Marc and forgets that the honda is a bag of dicks.
 
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Perhaps if Marquez hadn't spent his out lap hanging around looking for a tow his tyres would have been up to operating temperature and he would have been able to start his flying lap in attack mode without risking losing the front.
 
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Clarky said:
Perhaps if Marquez hadn't spent his out lap hanging around looking for a tow his tyres would have been up to operating temperature and he would have been able to start his flying lap in attack mode without risking losing the front.
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You say that like the honda is working well this season. That bike is horrid. This has to be the last straw for Marc. After how bad this weekend has gone I wouldn't do another race for Honda. I'd Vinales that engine every lap.
 
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