Formula 1 2009

Not having KERS may prove out to be only a good thing for the first half of the season for Brawn GP. I think it'll take some time until the system works well enough to overcome the downsides of it (ie. weight distribution). I'd be thrilled if Button and Barichello could fight for wins.

And, as of now, it looks very much possible.

Yeah KERS this season is limited to 400kJ of energy per lap, so it might not be worth to have it, not because of the weight (they're all 605kG) but mostly because the KERS needs cooling and the air intakes need to be bigger making the aero drag increase.
Another disadvantage is a slightly higher CoG and for those using a mechanical KERS (Williams) gyroscopic effect of the flywheel might be a ..... for handling, thought I think they're not using the KERS either.

Though I've read (rumours) that biggest advantage of BGP is the diffuser.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Wander @ Mar 6 2009, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The 6-wheeler is the coolest F1 car ever.

Too bad no-one ever had one with 8 wheels like in the late 70s Japanese anime Grand Prix .

I like the 6 wheel Williams better

Strange you should bring the 6-wheelers up again - I just saw a P34 at a show on Saturday.







I was surprised that it doesn't actually look quite as weird up close as it does in the photo's.

The Williams and the March 6-wheelers do look awesome with the 4 wheels at the back. It's just a shame they never got a chance to race.

What the hell was wrong with the 10-6-4-3-2-1? It rewarded not only winning, but made it so you had to finish 2 spots higher than currently to score a single point. It required drivers to push until the end.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Mar 17 2009, 04:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What the hell was wrong with the 10-6-4-3-2-1? It rewarded not only winning, but made it so you had to finish 2 spots higher than currently to score a single point. It required drivers to push until the end.

How exactly? If more drivers are not realisticly in a position to gain anything then there is less insentive to push, and rewarding so few of the competitors is harsh considering how difficult it is to even get into the top half of the field

Well I was not a big fan of the current system, drivers with crap cars had no motivation since the best they could reach would be maybe 12th. I think there should be points given at least down to 10th.

I would've made a bigger gap between 1st and 2nd, and 2nd and 3rd.

Counting just wins ... dunno if it'll work I guess the aim is to make drivers eager to win, should provide more agressive driving and more win or bust attitude in the reliability department. Might not be a bad thing.

Massa must be really happy lol, considering he would've been champion with this rules last year hahahaha

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Mar 17 2009, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I was not a big fan of the current system, drivers with crap cars had no motivation since the best they could reach would be maybe 12th. I think there should be points given at least down to 10th.

I agree. In MY opinion, the points could go something like this:

1st: 15
2nd: 12
3rd: 9
4th: 7
5th: 6
6th: 5
7th: 4
8th: 3
9th: 2
10th: 1


And Stevo: Well THAT P34 looks better than the one posted here earlier, cause it's the older (better looking) model.

Here it's in action:


By the way, I've heard that today in F1 history car races (or whatever they are) it does actually very well.

So the FIA have ignored FOTA and gone with most wins is champion, .........

Heard a rumor today that Jean Todt is retiring at the end of 2010 to head of Masterati's expansion into Indy Car.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Mar 17 2009, 05:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Counting just wins ... dunno if it'll work I guess the aim is to make drivers eager to win, should provide more aggressive driving and more win or bust attitude in the reliability department. Might not be a bad thing.

Yea, it sounds 'OK' in and of itself.

Until you remember that that racing and passing are not allowed! The FIA/Stewards .....-slap anyone who actually attempts it. Don't tell me everyone's forgotten the corrupt BS that happened at Spa last year?

This rule will only increase the importance of consistent, unbiased rules interpretations. If you know anything about Eff Wun, you know this is something the circus has never enjoyed and NEVER will.

Imagine: Last lap of the first race. Button (why not? ) dives inside Monkey Boy. Neither driver gives an inch and the cars make light contact. Massa does a half spin while BrawnGP takes the win. Can you begin to imagine the .... storm that will ensue?? Massa whines. Ferrari protests. The stewards convene for a 'conference.' 4 hours later, they issue a verdict. "Button won." Ferrari file a formal protest with Perv. Two months later a kangaroo court overturns the original verdict. <u>Repeat each and every time these losers go racing.</u>

Yea, that's the PINNACLE of motorsports alright. Mind sharing your Kool Aid?

Guys, F1 is dead. Deceased. Gone to meet it's maker.
"Helllo Polly!" is not going to revive the stiff corpse....

Get over it.

Say for example that a championship contender gets a drive through penalty or has some trouble in the pits, they have no chance of winning. Why not pull in and save the engine?

They have also been the quickest in recent testing, dosen't mean anything I know, but its a positive.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dazza @ Mar 21 2009, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>They have also been the quickest in recent testing, dosen't mean anything I know, but its a positive.

I did not like the idea of how Brawn got the team (I was hoping that Virgin was in control just for the jokes alone.), but I think this team in testing is showing that it was never the car that was the issue, but the engine.

With leadership like this....

Max: "It's not straightforward. I have an open mind on it at the moment - I can see it going either way. I really can. But somebody has to make their mind up and fortunately it's not my job."

Great, ......., leave it to your pre-paid suck-ups, the stewards, to do your dirty work for you.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorspor...son-opener.html


These idiots haven't even raced yet and already the protests and appeal threats are overshadowing the 'racing.' Pinnacle of motorsports? I don't think so! These pathetic clowns spend billions, but produce absolutely nothing of value.

I can see all this protesting going on all year, as no-one seems to know what's legal under the new bodywork rules.

They've already got Ferrari to change its exhausts, and also complained about their mirrors acting as a turning vane.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Mar 25 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I like watching Formula 1, it has its plus and minus. actually, more minus than plus...but iit irritates me when people even begin comparing motogp and formula 1, and continue on saying F1 is the pinnacle of motor racing and that motogp may not be able to hold a candle to it. for pete's sake, sure their drivers earn so much than motogp riders, sure they have a lot more sponsors, sure more people go to the races (even if they're not really motorsport fans)...but considering just motor RACING, c'mon, it's no brainer...

1. If F1 actually had more minus than plus you wouldn't follow it
2. Not everyone at a motogp race is a 'motorsport fan' if you apply the same standard
3. The pinnacle of motorsport/ bike racing/ or anything for that matter is difficult to agree on because everyone has a different set of criteria by which to judge, and gives different weights to different aspects. I consider F1 to be the pinnacle of motorsport by MILES, some think its world superbike, some might think its NASCAR and some might think that glamour, awareness, ratings, crowd sizes and money are irrelevant and be sure that their local minimoto race is the pinnacle of all motorsport.