Formula 1 2008

I hope you took your umbrella and rain coat Tom!

So far it's been quite wet let's hope it rains in the race too.

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...Kimi's title chances are over now!!!
I can't believe it!!! He did so well the whole race. He was leading after 2 laps, and with 2 laps to go he was still in the lead, but then the rain came..and he screwed up. I can't blame him too much, those conditions are just really hard to drive in. Lewis was maybe a bit lucky that he didn't hit the wall, but on the other hand, in those conditions you always need some sort of luck, in the end he deserved to win. Well done to him, and congrats to all the LH fans!!

Kimi needs to support Massa now, because it's too late for him now.

Congrats to Nick for reacing the podium!!

LoL, Massa wins! Hamilton got punished.

The championship is getting hot, only 2 pts from Hamilton to Massa.

Massa will be champion. period.

Well well well, wet start, thrilling laps, got dry, got boring, rained at the end, crazy race, conclusion, they should randomly water all the racetracks hehehe.

Anyway, first of all, as Hamilton hater I'm really happy he got sanctioned, I must admit, that this rule I don't find very fair, but it had to be applied it FIA wanted to show some kind of equality since others got the same sanction in the past (ie Alonso @ Suzuka a couple of years ago). Though I wonder if it had been a Ferrari would the result would be the same.

Kimi was quite good, but he made so many mistakes at the end he looked like a rookie, so much for the ICE-man label HAHAHAHAHA, now he's out of the championship fight!

Massa was a lucky SOB today, he got owned by Kimi and Lewis showing that he is a wimp in the wet (which we already knew). If he wins the championship the Kimi and Lewis should be ashamed that someone with so little talent beat them.

Good job (or luck) by Heidfeld (or whoever in his team) decided to switch to intermediates 2 laps before the end, worked out great.

Great job Alonso keeping at bay many superior cars while Piquet was nowhere in the midfield showing the real pace of the Renault.

Hahaha, I'm glad Hamilton got punished for trying to pull a sneaky move like that on Raikkonen. Trying to cut the chicane thus getting a better drive on the straight to pass, what a sneaky guy that Hamilton is... just glad the stewards are smart enough this time to realize what had happened there. Can't stand Ron Dennis and Lewis Hamilton.

Watch the damn video, you can see Hamilton back off & let Kimi back through. It's a pile of utter .... as usual.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAD3yUUefoQ

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Sep 7 2008, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Watch the damn video, you can see Hamilton back off & let Kimi back through. It's a pile of utter .... as usual.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAD3yUUefoQ

You are an ....., if that's the case then why not all the racers say Fucc the chicane.... im gonna go wide and avoid it altogether, thus being able to get a better run out of the corner and use that advantage to outbrake the other guy going into the corner. .... use your unbias head man, what Hamilton did was a sneaky move... yeah he went behind Kimi.. SO WHAT! He still had the advantage of a better exit thus being able to carry more speed, thus being able to pass Kimi so easily. That's why i think there should be a gravel trap in place so the racers know not to over push their limit because if they do, then they will lose precious time. But when there is no gravel or barrier at all.... Racers can and will overshoot everytime they feel they have a slight chance of an overtaking maneuver.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 7 2008, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Anyway, first of all, as Hamilton hater I'm really happy he got sanctioned, I must admit, that this rule I don't find very fair, but it had to be applied it FIA wanted to show some kind of equality since others got the same sanction in the past (ie Alonso @ Suzuka a couple of years ago). Though I wonder if it had been a Ferrari would the result would be the same.
You're still a Lewis hater???? Sad..

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 7 2008, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Kimi was quite good, but he made so many mistakes at the end he looked like a rookie, so much for the ICE-man label HAHAHAHAHA, now he's out of the championship fight!
I bet you must be so thrilled that Kimi is out of the title fight (well..he has a chance mathematically, but it doesn't look too good). Kimi did make some mistakes, and he can blame himself I guess. He should have kept his head cool and settled for 2nd place (at least then he would have gotten the 10 points now). It was all or nothing for him, he wanted to win, and I can understand it, but it wasn't the smartest thing to do.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 7 2008, 07:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Massa was a lucky SOB today, he got owned by Kimi and Lewis showing that he is a wimp in the wet (which we already knew). If he wins the championship the Kimi and Lewis should be ashamed that someone with so little talent beat them.
Massa got owned like you said. He got the 10 points in the end, but to me he wasn't the winner. Both lewis and Kimi did a much better job most of the race, but rules are rules of course. I don't think Kimi or Lewis should be ashamed AT ALL if they get beaten by Massa. A few years ago most of us thought Massa wasn't good enough to win the title, or challenge for the title, but the fact is, he made a lot of progression, especially this season. So far he has done a very good job, and if he wins the title, he will deserve it. I think Massa is underrated. I also thought he wasn't good enough to win the title, but that was before this season. He matured a lot, and he is getting stronger and stronger. Of course he isn't the best in wet circumstances, but that isn't the most important factor to win a title.

About the Lewis/Kimi thing: I watched it a few times, and it seems Lewis gave back his position to Kimi, but not completely. The thing is, he still had the advantage, that's why he could overtake Kimi again.

I watched half the race and fell asleep and saw the last 2 laps. I love Spa - as for the race you probably know my thoughts.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 7 2008, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are an ....., if that's the case then why not all the racers say Fucc the chicane.... im gonna go wide and avoid it altogether, thus being able to get a better run out of the corner

"A better run??"

How the hell did Hambone get a 'better run' when he slowed down to let Kimi pass? Maybe you are the '.....' around here?

Watch the video. Kimi has the 'better run' up to the line and overhauls LH as they start the next lap. (Presumably, LH was short shifting or dragging the brakes),

LH then outbrakes Kimi into the hairpin.

Got it?

they said it wasn't the issue of letting kimi pass again, but a question was raised on the momentum that hammie have which allowed him to have an advantage over kimi.

anyway, it was still a race i would forget. i'm glad to hear kimi saying that 2nd just wasn't good enough for him. it is SPA after all. though, it doesn't look good in the points standings.

another weekend to forget. time to turn to motogp for this weekend.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Goatboy @ Sep 8 2008, 04:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Watch the damn video, you can see Hamilton back off & let Kimi back through. It's a pile of utter .... as usual.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=eAD3yUUefoQ

I watched and recorded the race..Lewis did back off after he passed through chicane. I heard the commentator saying that Lewis would be punish for something. But I am not so sure for what..Massa must be very lucky if Lewis is punished.

It was a boring race till the final 5 laps. I think Kimmi was a little bit over confident and he was lucky to pass Massa and Lewis earlier. But without TC, only perseverence and a through racer can finish the race- Lewis, Massa and Nick..

I wish Motogp abolish the TC and other driving aids and we can see how slow is the 800cc bike compare to the V5 990 MotoGP bike.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Sep 8 2008, 12:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You're still a Lewis hater???? Sad..
Without Lewis 2007 hungarian stunt, now Alonso would be walking towards his 4th WDC, though it was mainly Ron's fault, it was Lewis who started it so, I think I will hate Lewis for a LONG long time. And anyway, love and hate is something you cannot chose, it just happens.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>I bet you must be so thrilled that Kimi is out of the title fight (well..he has a chance mathematically, but it doesn't look too good). Kimi did make some mistakes, and he can blame himself I guess. He should have kept his head cool and settled for 2nd place (at least then he would have gotten the 10 points now). It was all or nothing for him, he wanted to win, and I can understand it, but it wasn't the smartest thing to do.
Actually in the post race interview I was almost feeling sorry for him, but then I remembered he'll go back to his multimillionaire life of mansions, yachts, Ferraris and supermodels and wont give a .... about the race so .... .... him, I'm jealous hahaha.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <div class='quotemain'>About the Lewis/Kimi thing: I watched it a few times, and it seems Lewis gave back his position to Kimi, but not completely. The thing is, he still had the advantage, that's why he could overtake Kimi again.
Lewis let Kimi through but he stayed closer than he would've been if he had taken the corner, IMO this kind of thing shouldn't be punished, but if there's a precedent it's fair to apply it. Of course I also remember Hungary 2006, Schumacher jumped the chicane twice trting to keep De la Rosa at bay, but of course, Schumi is Schumi and rules never applied to him the same as the others.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (V5Stroker @ Sep 8 2008, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I wish Motogp abolish the TC and other driving aids and we can see how slow is the 800cc bike compare to the V5 990 MotoGP bike.
The 990cc had TC also.

you shouldn't be here teo. why are you here?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SuperShinya56 @ Sep 7 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You are an ....., if that's the case then why not all the racers say Fucc the chicane.... im gonna go wide and avoid it altogether, thus being able to get a better run out of the corner and use that advantage to outbrake the other guy going into the corner. .... use your unbias head man, what Hamilton did was a sneaky move... yeah he went behind Kimi.. SO WHAT! He still had the advantage of a better exit thus being able to carry more speed, thus being able to pass Kimi so easily. That's why i think there should be a gravel trap in place so the racers know not to over push their limit because if they do, then they will lose precious time. But when there is no gravel or barrier at all.... Racers can and will overshoot everytime they feel they have a slight chance of an overtaking maneuver.

I normally cant stand the slagging that goes on on this forum, but..., you really are a ....!
Kimi pushes Lewis wide at the chicane, Lewis has the choice of taking the pair of them out or cutting accross the chicane. Obvious choice really! After this he slows to let Kimi gain the place back, thus negating any speed advantage. The Mcclaren uses its tyres better in the wet which was the bigger advantage for Lewis going into turn one. Seems like six of one, half a dozen of another to me and I bet that the penalty wouldnt have been applied if it was the other way around.
FIA are Ferrari fanboys

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mr-brightside @ Sep 8 2008, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I normally cant stand the slagging that goes on on this forum, but..., you really are a ....!
Kimi pushes Lewis wide at the chicane, Lewis has the choice of taking the pair of them out or cutting accross the chicane. Obvious choice really! After this he slows to let Kimi gain the place back, thus negating any speed advantage. The Mcclaren uses its tyres better in the wet which was the bigger advantage for Lewis going into turn one. Seems like six of one, half a dozen of another to me and I bet that the penalty wouldnt have been applied if it was the other way around.
FIA are Ferrari fanboys


SPOT ....... ON!!!

F1 is a farce, Ferrari have to much power!

Did anyone see the GP 2 on sat? Senna got released early in the pits a la Massa and immediatly got a drivethrough penalty........... joke!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Val_46 @ Sep 8 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>SPOT ....... ON!!!

F1 is a farce, Ferrari have to much power!

Did anyone see the GP 2 on sat? Senna got released early in the pits a la Massa and immediatly got a drivethrough penalty........... joke!

+1. There doesnt seem to be any consistancy at all within this sport and thier non-sensical rulings.
You wait all season for a good race, and then the FIA go and .... it up!!
God I hope this doesnt happen to moto gp

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Sep 8 2008, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>you shouldn't be here teo. why are you here?
huh?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Sep 8 2008, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>huh?

haha, you shouldn't be here coz it's your birthday!!!

go somewhere and have fun!

Yeah I'm not in the same timezone as you are, it's middle of working hours here! ... don't worry for me tonight I'll have fun