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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (phleg @ Jul 10 2008, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He gave a Marshall a nasty push a few years back in Malaysia.
Oh please, as if Kimi is the only one to have done that.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Jul 10 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh please, as if Kimi is the only one to have done that.

I'm just stating that, don't bite the messenger.
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Back to F1, talk. Kimi did something he probably regrets, but sometimes that kind of stuff needs to be done.

How many of you see Red Bull being a race winner next season? Adrian Newey was amazing in car developement in the years before these apendages, and with 2009 rules getting ride of those, could we see Webber or his teammate taking a win?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hayden Fan @ Jul 10 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>How many of you see Red Bull being a race winner next season? Adrian Newey was amazing in car developement in the years before these apendages, and with 2009 rules getting ride of those, could we see Webber or his teammate taking a win?

I have limited faith in Webber, but if Vettel or Alonso are driving next years car i can see it being a reality.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 11 2008, 05:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I have limited faith in Webber, but if Vettel or Alonso are driving next years car i can see it being a reality.

I agree. I think the driver roster is what Red Bull will have to have to win.

Still unsure about Vettel. He is very fast, but he is still very young.

Alonso and a car that can win, will.


Depends on what Red Bull does with STR. If Red Bull takes their focus from it, Vettel will be in a Red Bull Racing machine, but if they are running like thy are this year, it will be Alonso in the second RBR car with Webber.

The n in 2010 you have Vettel and Alonso, you could have a legit shot at a title by a privateer team since Williams in 2003.
 
There are radical changes in aero rules for next season, there could be a big shuffle in the picking order. We'll see what's the order next season. Still I don't think Red Bull will be winning races next year (unless there's a wacky rainy race or something abnormal) they have the handicap of the Renault engine which is not up to par with the others and their don't have the budget of the top 2 teams.
I'm hoping the new rules will make the driver input more important.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 11 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm hoping the new rules will make the driver input more important.

Like putting everyone on the same car
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no actually I meant reducing downforce so cars can get closer to each other to attempt overtaking.

Actually I'm against some of the rules taken to "unify" the category like freezing the engines and banning pretty much every ingenius development they creat.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pacman @ Jul 10 2008, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Oh please, as if Kimi is the only one to have done that.
Well I've only watched F1 since 1999 so I can only say he is the only to have done it ... during the last 10 years.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 15 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well I've only watched F1 since 1999 so I can only say he is the only to have done it ... during the last 10 years.

there's a certain montoya...i forgot the name
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... and that's worse than this one, coz at least kimi saw something he didn't like hence the pushing incident. but JPM (from his sheer genius) bumped into the camera and the cameraman, and he had the nerve to get angry...genius i tell you
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Oh that was really funny, though Monty didn't push the guy, he insulted him "you fockin' ..... you broke my head" ow that was so funny but yeah, Monty isn't exactly what you would call a classy driver either hehe.
Monty meets cameraman

Still I don't think pushing is any better than insulting.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 16 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Still I don't think pushing is any better than insulting.

i wasn't defending kimi by saying that pushing is better than insulting. what i'm saying is, at least kimi has a good reason for the push: he saw or he thought he saw the man stepping on his stuff, while jpm was stupid enough to walk into the cameraman then get angry after
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Teomolca @ Jul 16 2008, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Still I don't think pushing is any better than insulting.

I don't know about anyone else but i'd say verbal abuse is relatively harmless and forgivable compared to physical attacks. But i'm a peace lover

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jul 16 2008, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i wasn't defending kimi by saying that pushing is better than insulting. what i'm saying is, at least kimi has a good reason for the push: he saw or he thought he saw the man stepping on his stuff, while jpm was stupid enough to walk into the cameraman then get angry after

Well you can kinda see why he's mad (other than short man syndrome). As a star of the show you would expect people to show him some respect, including getting out of his way when he tries to go from A - B in a paddock full of people trying to swarm him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 16 2008, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>1. I don't know about anyone else but i'd say verbal abuse is relatively harmless and forgivable compared to physical attacks. But i'm a peace lover



2. Well you can kinda see why he's mad (other than short man syndrome). As a star of the show you would expect people to show him some respect, including getting out of his way when he tries to go from A - B in a paddock full of people trying to swarm him.

1. agree

2. if teo and i are talking about the same incident (can't be arsed to view the vid right now), i remember that the cameraman didn't see jpm coz he was filming something inside the (ferrari?) booth, then bam! jpm bumped into him, and he got yelled at after.

edit: saw the vid...and yes, we are talking of the same incident.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jul 16 2008, 03:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>2. if teo and i are talking about the same incident (can't be arsed to view the vid right now), i remember that the cameraman didn't see jpm coz he was filming something inside the (ferrari?) booth, then bam! jpm bumped into him, and he got yelled at after.

edit: saw the vid...and yes, we are talking of the same incident.

Well we don't actually see the impact, so it is possible that they actually walk into each other. It was definitely a massive over reaction, but so was Kimi's.
 
Does anybody here still watch F1? We were treated to an excellent German GP. Mclaren seem to have done the work to overturn Ferrari and Lewis is on a roll and making it count. The safetey car almost changed everything, but with a second a lap advantage, passing is possible and Lewis won a thrilling on track race. Piquet looks like he's saved himself with mature driving and Heidfeld again was had a strong race head. The rest were average. Disappointment of the year that Kovalinen is so far behind hes already moving over for Lewis, but if Hamilton keeps driving like this the world title will be his.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Jul 21 2008, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Does anybody here still watch F1? We were treated to an excellent German GP. Mclaren seem to have done the work to overturn Ferrari and Lewis is on a roll and making it count. The safetey car almost changed everything, but with a second a lap advantage, passing is possible and Lewis won a thrilling on track race. Piquet looks like he's saved himself with mature driving and Heidfeld again was had a strong race head. The rest were average. Disappointment of the year that Kovalinen is so far behind hes already moving over for Lewis, but if Hamilton keeps driving like this the world title will be his.

I DO
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yep...kudos to hammie for a great race!
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i liked what ron dennis said to him over the radio after he race.
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mclaren, very obviously, did their homework well. and kudos to them for this.

now ferrari...

GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER FOR EFFIN SAKE!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (somedamnwriter @ Jul 21 2008, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i liked what ron dennis said to him over the radio after he race.
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Those radio things are cringeworthy and i hate them. IT's all put on for the TV
 

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