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Forcada on Stoner

So, what was the point here, duder? I thought you were stepping away from the Stoner b.s.???

I don't completely grasp the reasons for the intensity of the continuous arguing on this site between certain members, but at least it gets people posting, and that is better than the "xopussyrtposrterj" threads. The wording is entertaining, sometimes, too. :)

___________ About the interview:
Color me an incredulous MotoGP fan with the following Forcada statement. I understand how to pivot a motorcycle on the front to induce a slide. So the front tire is important in that aspect, too. But I am skeptical about the claim Stoner didn't care about the rear. This is the rider who slid INTO corners and powered out virtually without using the front at all. This is the guy who threw the bike over into "Stoner corner" at 150 mph, without touching the brakes and drifted out under full power, again barely using the front tire at all.

I've never read this before. Is this personal observation or is this quoted or paraphrased from an interview somewhere?
 
I think I first heard it from Colin Edwards. However, Stoner has talked about it more than once. Here is one time: Redbull - Stoner @ P.I.
“Last year in qualifying it was by far my best run through there I've ever had. I was basically only off the throttle for less than half a second, and then straight back on it again. We had nice good grip and lots of fresh tyre, and I entered in there at about 265km/h and at the slowest point of the corner I was at 258km/h, so we motored through that at a fair pace! I still remember the feeling of getting through there that quick.”
Good enough? He never touches the brakes and I under estimated his speed. It's 164mph on entry. In another interview, either he or someone else talks about him sliding before the corner even starts.

"He should be in his own race," quips Cal

BBC Stoner corner story
 
I think I first heard it from Colin Edwards. However, Stoner has talked about it more than once. Here is one time: Redbull - Stoner @ P.I.

Good enough? He never touches the brakes and I under estimated his speed. It's 164mph on entry. In another interview, either he or someone else talks about him sliding before the corner even starts.

"He should be in his own race," quips Cal

BBC Stoner corner story


Was that just before or after he turned water into whine?
 
Mate, Australia is another country, not a planet.

We may be a little out of this world, we may be weird, we may even be upside down, but it is just a country.

The only 'alien' we have in Oz is Sir Les Patterson

:D

Some say a more advanced race. Their the only species with a chip evolved on their shoulder
 
I think I first heard it from Colin Edwards. However, Stoner has talked about it more than once. Here is one time: Redbull - Stoner @ P.I.

Good enough? He never touches the brakes and I under estimated his speed. It's 164mph on entry. In another interview, either he or someone else talks about him sliding before the corner even starts.

"He should be in his own race," quips Cal

BBC Stoner corner story


Not being pedantic, but there's nothing to say he didn't use the brake.
 
Not being pedantic, but there's nothing to say he didn't use the brake.
Exactly. He just happens to mention letting off the gas for no ....... reason, and neglects to mention slamming on the brakes. Ya' that's the logical take away. But, you go with what you want to believe. You do anyway.
 
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Some say a more advanced race. Their the only species with a chip evolved on their shoulder

Nope, you got it wrong.

It is one state that has the extra head growing from their shoulders and given that the name Chip is little used in this country it is not like an extra chip on the shoulder either

Mind you, owning a Helmet and hat franchise in that state is quite a good income
 
Exactly. He just happens to mention letting off the gas for no ....... reason, and neglects to mention slamming on the brakes. Ya' that's the logical take away. But, you go with what you want to believe. You do anyway.


No reason to get pissy. You are assuming he didn't use the brake because he didn't specifically mention it. In point of fact riders frequently use the rear brake while still on the gas in order to make the rear-end squat to better settle while entering the turn. You'd know that if you'd ever raced ridden in competition. Even good street riders do that.
 
True that. But he sure aint slowing down much is he?

Come on... nobody transitions into a 150 mph turn without slowing down some, not even Stoner.
To suggest what Pony is proposing escalates Stoner appreciation up a few notches to something
more like blind fundamentalism. Stoner never said "and I never used the brakes at all"
He also never said he can breathe underwater or fly like a bird - but a reasonable person
can assume that these things are not so, even if Stoner didn't spell it out for them.
 
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Come on... nobody goes into a turn without slowing down some, not even Stoner.

I think weve had this discussion some time ago .... Stoner could well be usong his old short circuit skills ..... and may well not be using the rear brake ..... I know some dont get it .... like Arab .... but thats cos hes a ...... ;)

Even your flat trackers would do simillar .... chop the throttle just before the corner to get it loose then bring it out and control the turn and slide.

Its how its done on speedway bikes and no brake is used ..... cos they dont have one!


https://motomatters.com/interview/2012/04/12/casey_stoner_explains_how_to_slide_a_mot.html

Dont make the mistake of thinking he is a poor speller when he says "break the rear" by letting off the throttle. He means do it to break traction ... correctly spelled.
 
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True that. But he sure aint slowing down much is he?






......s. %90 of what is here lately is a .... pulling contest.
Yep, thats why i have been a little scarce the last few months. Summer break just exasperated the tugging.
 
I think weve had this discussion some time ago .... Stoner could well be usong his old short circuit skills ..... and may well not be using the rear brake ..... I know some dont get it .... like Arab .... but thats cos hes a ...... ;)

Even your flat trackers would do simillar .... chop the throttle just before the corner to get it loose then bring it out and control the turn and slide.

Its how its done on speedway bikes and no brake is used ..... cos they dont have one!


https://motomatters.com/interview/2012/04/12/casey_stoner_explains_how_to_slide_a_mot.html

Dont make the mistake of thinking he is a poor speller when he says "break the rear" by letting off the throttle. He means do it to break traction ... correctly spelled.

Barry I think something may be lost in translation. In american english there is a difference between a ..... and a ..... I mean you can .... them both but thats where the similarities end.
 
I think weve had this discussion some time ago .... Stoner could well be usong his old short circuit skills ..... and may well not be using the rear brake ..... I know some dont get it .... like Arab .... but thats cos hes a ...... ;)

Even your flat trackers would do simillar .... chop the throttle just before the corner to get it loose then bring it out and control the turn and slide.

Its how its done on speedway bikes and no brake is used ..... cos they dont have one!


https://motomatters.com/interview/2012/04/12/casey_stoner_explains_how_to_slide_a_mot.html

Dont make the mistake of thinking he is a poor speller when he says "break the rear" by letting off the throttle. He means do it to break traction ... correctly spelled.

Mate - It's not a flat tracker or a speedway bike. MotoGp bikes are much heavier and they are not run on a course covered with loose soil. Flat trackers don't transition from left to right and they don't reach the kind of speeds that MGP bikes do. The comparison does not hold up. If Stoner says he did not use the brakes, I'll believe it.
 
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