Favourite MotoGP Rider

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Feb 5 2007, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>pedrosa, hayden

interesting poll. ROSSI! favourite?! i would never have guessed
shocking ain't it!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jan 30 2007, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>There are a lot more factors, too. If Edwards had beaten Hayden at Assen, Rossi would also have the 5 points he needed, or Maybe if Edwards worked harder, he could have held off Elias and KRJR. But he didn't. So is that a reason to dislike Edwards? The fact of the matter is, there's a lot of points involved in a championship fight. It could be argued that Elias's win robbed Rossi of the title, or Hayden's wins, or Rossi's DNF, or whatever, the fact is it was a culmination of these things. And while winning championships requires immense amounts of skill and dedication, you won't win if luck's not on your side. Rossi had it pretty good with luck over the last half a decade, it just failed him this year. Better luck next time.


I agree, and I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring here, I dont believe that Edwards or Elias cost Rossi the championship any more than I would have thought that Pedrosa would have caused Hayden to lose the title if Rossi had won the last race.

.... happens, when guys are pushing for the win, accidents happen, nobody was knocked off deliberately, and I dont think Edwards threw Assen deliberately!

The name of the game is racking up the points. Hayden won by being consistant, Rossi won more races, but had more DNFs.

At the end of it all, its about a season, and as richo says, Rossi's run of good fortune ran out this year. It happens.

Pete

Spot on Pete

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (basspete @ Feb 5 2007, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I agree, and I'm gonna throw my hat into the ring here, I dont believe that Edwards or Elias cost Rossi the championship any more than I would have thought that Pedrosa would have caused Hayden to lose the title if Rossi had won the last race.

.... happens, when guys are pushing for the win, accidents happen, nobody was knocked off deliberately, and I dont think Edwards threw Assen deliberately!

The name of the game is racking up the points. Hayden won by being consistant, Rossi won more races, but had more DNFs.

At the end of it all, its about a season, and as richo says, Rossi's run of good fortune ran out this year. It happens.

Pete
Well said, I couldnt agree more man!!!!

IF's really dont matter..it's all part of racing!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Jan 30 2007, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>but...
... Old man river is spot on here. So it's ok for Rossi to deliberately bash Gibernau off the track and laugh at him on the podium at the start of a horror year that, in another life, could have seen him the Champion, but for Elias to do the same thing to Rossi accidentally, only a few hundered meters away from the gravel Sete almost bit a year earlier, and then going for a win and taking the fight to Rossi (How dare he?) All of a sudden he's a bad guy?

It is all part of racing, and true that everybody sees their view... we can keep linking the chain of complains between riders, but then: for Rossi to take out Gibernau was bad? In his home track and Gibernau complaining or "crying" about his shoulder! Come on, they had a great rivalry going and were in everybody’s eyes, it was tough move, that is it.

Plus Gibernau kind of did the same move on Melandri in Estoril ’04 (Spiderman 'ring a bell') and must have hurt his shoulder a bit more but Melandri did not complain so nobody cared much, so that made Gibernau right? I do not think so either…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aixyk9NiF5o

Or when elbows touched between Girbernau and Rossi at greater speed putting them both in a bit of danger at Rossi’s home track…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8OLpneGWg

It is racing and things like that will always happen... or at least please let them happen... When they become "too carefull" to risk at all, plus become afraid of restrictions or what will people and media say... it will be called F1!

1) Valentino Rossi
2) Colin Edwards
3) Troy Bayliss

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 6 2007, 02:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
It is all part of racing, and true that everybody sees their view... we can keep linking the chain of complains between riders, but then: for Rossi to take out Gibernau was bad? In his home track and Gibernau complaining or "crying" about his shoulder! Come on, they had a great rivalry going and were in everybody’s eyes, it was tough move, that is it.

Plus Gibernau kind of did the same move on Melandri in Estoril ’04 (Spiderman 'ring a bell') and must have hurt his shoulder a bit more but Melandri did not complain so nobody cared much, so that made Gibernau right? I do not think so either…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aixyk9NiF5o

Or when elbows touched between Girbernau and Rossi at greater speed putting them both in a bit of danger at Rossi’s home track…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj8OLpneGWg

It is racing and things like that will always happen... or at least please let them happen... When they become "too carefull" to risk at all, plus become afraid of restrictions or what will people and media say... it will be called F1!


I know it's racing, and these incidents are part of it. My point was that when Gibernau was knocked off, the general mood (Outside the Jerez circuit where tens of thousands of Spainiards were telling Rossi how they felt) was "ha-ha Gibernau got knocked off, and now he's crying!"
But when the same thing happens a year later under different circumstances, it's seen as Elias is the bad guy, he stupidly ploughed into Rossi. Get what I'm saying?

I don't have favourites as such, but I really hope Loris takes the title this year.
My other vote went to Carlos Checa simply for his incredible performance during the past season, on a rubbish bike he got points in every race I think.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (richo @ Feb 6 2007, 07:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I know it's racing, and these incidents are part of it. My point was that when Gibernau was knocked off, the general mood (Outside the Jerez circuit where tens of thousands of Spainiards were telling Rossi how they felt) was "ha-ha Gibernau got knocked off, and now he's crying!"
But when the same thing happens a year later under different circumstances, it's seen as Elias is the bad guy, he stupidly ploughed into Rossi. Get what I'm saying?


Yeap richo, I get what your are saying, in fact I totally agree… Elias on Rossi was not the bad guy… Rossi on Gibernau was not the bad guy… Gibernau on Melandri was not the bad guy… Biaggi on… the list keeps on going and going. Things like that happen in racing… What I think is that Rossi lacked on consistency for different factors, many different factors, some involve Elias, but that's it. Another rider could have accidentally taken Rossi and Elias could have still got a victory, or Elias could have taken Hayden or someone else too… It is racing.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (VHMP01 @ Feb 7 2007, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>
Yeap richo, I get what your are saying, in fact I totally agree… Elias on Rossi was not the bad guy… Rossi on Gibernau was not the bad guy… Gibernau on Melandri was not the bad guy… Biaggi on… the list keeps on going and going. Things like that happen in racing… What I think is that Rossi lacked on consistency for different factors, many different factors, some involve Elias, but that's it. Another rider could have accidentally taken Rossi and Elias could have still got a victory, or Elias could have taken Hayden or someone else too… It is racing.


Yeah, that's it. It's fast racing, and it gets rough out there. Sometimes things dont go your way, sometimes they don't.

Elias, Melandri

Clearly the most hardcore team in the motogp paddock

My vote goes to Rossi of course. Been following him for years. He races hard and he plays hard and is great to watch on track. Don't know why people are up in arms for him getting the most votes.
My second vote goes to Marco...because he's a great great guy. I love his spirit and the way he fights. He makes me laugh my head off and I'm hoping he manages to get some good results out of the bridgestones this year.

As for the comments about Elias. I always considered him to be a small waste of space...until he pulled that very big rabbit out of his very small hat at Estoril. Woah!! Now I'm as big a Rossi fan as they come and in part I was a bit sore about that but hats off to him. I'm just pissed off at him because if he can race like that, why the hell doesn't he perform that way every race rather than when his next year's contract is on the line?? Bad that...

I'd like to see what Casey Stoner has to offer, as well as Chris Vermulen. I think those two have a very strong chance of kicking the crap out of Pedrosa. That short little bugger really gets under my skin with his attitude (brought on either by his manager or himself, I don't care) of its all about me even though I couldn't win the championship I'll take out my teammate, bs.

I am a fan of Rossi, but he doesn't have to win to make it interesting, I just want the dogfights on the track. Now that makes it interesting. I was watching a clip of Rainey and Schwantz (think it was those two) going at it changing leads every other corner. Holy crap that was exciting and it happened so long ago. That's the kind of racing I want to watch.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (country @ Feb 14 2007, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to see what Casey Stoner has to offer, as well as Chris Vermulen. I think those two have a very strong chance of kicking the crap out of Pedrosa. That short little bugger really gets under my skin with his attitude (brought on either by his manager or himself, I don't care) of its all about me even though I couldn't win the championship I'll take out my teammate, bs.
I'm also very curious about Stoner and Vermeulen. They both look like competitive riders to me. Hopefully they will be challenging for wins this season. I think both of em have what it takes to win races.

I actually like Pedrosa, well..I think he's really good. What happened in Estoril wasn't deliberate imo. It was really unfortunate. I don't think Dani is unfair, so I'm not blaming him for what happened during that race.
It's not hard to see he got the talent, he had a good year last season, winning in his first year in MotoGP. For sure he's not (really) charismatic, but I don't think a rider has to be, it's nice though..but in the end I appreciate what he does on track (and no, dont mean taking out his teammate )

Two favourites?! Think I've got at least 5...really difficult to choose two....Rossi, Hayden, Stoner, Mole and Edwards (Hopkins not far behind).....i put stoner and mole...who knows why.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (country @ Feb 14 2007, 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'd like to see what Casey Stoner has to offer, as well as Chris Vermulen. I think those two have a very strong chance of kicking the crap out of Pedrosa.

Ha!! i think "strong" isn't the correct word, maybe an outside chance. Stoner will be able to take it to and beyond pedrosa on a few occasions but if Vermulen out does Pedrosa at more than 5 dry races i will be very surprised indeed

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 14 2007, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I'm also very curious about Stoner and Vermeulen. They both look like competitive riders to me. Hopefully they will be challenging for wins this season. I think both of em have what it takes to win races.

I actually like Pedrosa, well..I think he's really good. What happened in Estoril wasn't deliberate imo. It was really unfortunate. I don't think Dani is unfair, so I'm not blaming him for what happened during that race.
It's not hard to see he got the talent, he had a good year last season, winning in his first year in MotoGP. For sure he's not (really) charismatic, but I don't think a rider has to be, it's nice though..but in the end I appreciate what he does on track (and no, dont mean taking out his teammate )

yay! he has another fan, or is that not the right word?... supporter? lol

yeah i like stoner and vermeulen. stoner needs to calm down and he'll be great, chris has alot to offer too... i was gutted about what happened to him in laguna, he should have got 2nd by rights. but hey, thats racing i suppose.

1.Edwards
2.Vermeulen

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stop_killing_dead_things @ Feb 16 2007, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yay! he has another fan, or is that not the right word?... supporter? lol

I dunno if I'm a Dani fan..maybe I am. I do like him and I hope he will win the title (when Vale left of course ).
Actually I'm pretty sure he will be champ one day. Maybe even this season??? I personally think the title fight will be between Rossi n Pedrosa.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Franco Fangio @ Feb 17 2007, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I dunno if I'm a Dani fan..maybe I am. I do like him and I hope he will win the title (when Vale left of course ).
Actually I'm pretty sure he will be champ one day. Maybe even this season??? I personally think the title fight will be between Rossi n Pedrosa.

yup cant argue there. i think people are underestimating capirossi though, noone has really mentioned him and he was so strong last year - even after catalunya