I agree and it's why I said he is out of character, I think it's his anger that had him riding the way he did and why I said his recent behaviour isn't going to get him any respect. Standing someone up during a race is one thing but practice and qualy, that isn't like him and why he needs to stop being angry. I know you see him as brave for fooling around with Rossi but if he can't control his anger he should chill out before he does hurt someone. The last thing he needs is someone to return the favor during the next practice and end up having an injury.
I agree and it's why I said he is out of character, I think it's his anger that had him riding the way he did and why I said his recent behaviour isn't going to get him any respect. Standing someone up during a race is one thing but practice and qualy, that isn't like him and why he needs to stop being angry. I know you see him as brave for fooling around with Rossi but if he can't control his anger he should chill out before he does hurt someone. The last thing he needs is someone to return the favor during the next practice and end up having an injury.
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You are out of luck, I am a photographer too. The last three images are from the WIDE ANGLE lens of an onboard camera (I think Spies') and of course they are NOT long lenses that can flatten images and distances, on the contrary they enhance depth...
Those images represent pretty well what was happening (and even TV commentators have not seen anything different since they watch TV just like us, btw). I also said, the fact that Stoner did not slow down is shown especially well in the video shot from above, that can be checked on motogp.com. You can see he exits that corner keeping the same distance from the riders in front of him.
These crashes (unfortunately) happen frequently in races and riders who are behind are usually unfazed by them, unless they are directly affected. Here we are speaking of the very top riders in the world with pretty good nerves and experience with these things.
Unless you want to revive the myth that Stoner is a ........
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There in not a 'new chassis' yet -- they'll try new parts of the current frame-less design with revised flexibility.
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Nicky himself said that the incident with Spies made him lose several positions, and denies what you insist on, that he's being discriminated.
And speaking of Spies, there I think there would be some grounds for suspicion of unequal treatment, since he was faster than JLo in pre-season tests, and much slower in the actual races. Someone did not like him being faster than 'The New King of MotoGP'? But you have uni-directional conspiracy glasses.
These crashes (unfortunately) happen frequently in races and riders who are behind are usually unfazed by them, unless they are directly affected. Here we are speaking of the very top riders in the world with pretty good nerves and experience with these things.
Unless you want to revive the myth that Stoner is a ........
Stoner was never going to win the race regardless, but may have been a little closer. I think simoncelli's eventual crash worried him not all, but may have lost him a little tim(e) in terms of backing off slightly or choosing a different line if he saw it unfolding. His near death experience, or the near death of his championship anyway, in the first corner whether due entirely to his own error on cold tyres or partly precipitated by simoncelli cutting across him may not unreasonably have induced some circumspection though. They definitely didn't touch in the first corner btw; nick harris called them as having done so in the live call of the race, but said they definitely hadn't touched in the post-race coverage in australia after several replays which demonstrated that fact.
It is good to see you, as most of the rest of us do on occasion, letting your inner fan out with simoncelli. The guy has all the talent in the world and fairly obviously has the pace to win races this year, but at the moment is at least as crash-prone as stoner in 2006, and this is not his rookie year and he is riding for a much better team on a much better bike.
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I hadn't seen the stats but yes - my immediate thoughts when Pedrosa took off were;
He's been nursing that sore arm and not eating up his tires in needless battles.
Ran a smart race. Good on him. At the post race interview Lorenzo looked really
burnt.
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These crashes (unfortunately) happen frequently in races and riders who are behind are usually unfazed by them, unless they are directly affected. Here we are speaking of the very top riders in the world with pretty good nerves and experience with these things.
Unless you want to revive the myth that Stoner is a ........
If we have aliens today - once upon a time there were gods....even gods became flustered. Read accounts from Lawson, Rainey, Doohan, and even Schwantz who used to tie that Suzuki in knots, about what it was like to be anywhere remotely near Christian Sarron. He didn't hang off in comparison to other riders which meant his angle of lean was often greater. Furthermore, his fast in slow out cornering technique combined with the classic line was the complete antitheses of the established riding technique at the time. All of the aforementioned hated riding anywhere near him. Yeah crashes do happen in races, but perhaps it is the potential for these which is more disconcerting for riders. The gods used to trust each other, and be able to predict what one another would do. All of the aliens will find Simoncelli a liability as he encroaches on their territory because of his wild unpredictable style. His understudy Iannone waits in the wings!! It'll also be interesting to watch another one of Valentino's so called 'friendships' go sour over time.
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You got nothing. You're "convinced" because you're an arrogant little boy. If you'd been around a while you'd know
there are numerous photos my racing days posted here in the site. And every club racer I know - has had to have
a job. Mine at the time was photography. And yes now I'm a businessman and successful one at that. Several
members of the forum have been by to visit my shop. So excuse me for being mature and having a breadth of
experience.
So, if having actual experience at racing doesn't give me any perspective on the sport - what does that say
about you - who probably don't even own a motorcycle? Maybe you want to post a photo or two of yourself
with your bike - just to show you even know which end is up; because so far all you've done is re-hash other people's
opinions and take credit for them in order to gnash, snarl, snicker and badmouth people here like some 14 year-old
.... banging on a keyboard in his mommy's basement.
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You are out of luck, I am a photographer too. The last three images are from the WIDE ANGLE lens of an onboard camera (I think Spies') and of course they are NOT long lenses that can flatten images and distances, on the contrary they enhance depth...
So you are a 'working photographer' who cannot tell a wide angle from a tele.
Those images represent pretty well what was happening (and even TV commentators have not seen anything different since they watch TV just like us, btw). I also said, the fact that Stoner did not slow down is shown especially well in the video shot from above, that can be checked on motogp.com. You can see he exits that corner keeping the same distance from the riders in front of him.
These crashes (unfortunately) happen frequently in races and riders who are behind are usually unfazed by them, unless they are directly affected. Here we are speaking of the very top riders in the world with pretty good nerves and experience with these things.
Unless you want to revive the myth that Stoner is a ........
Yes and those tiny wide angle lenses with their high depth of field DISTORT like crazy and do not give an accurate view.
As to what myth or distortion you wish to revive... it doesn't matter much to me. You have such a storehouse of them to select from. Revive away Paisan. It's what you do best.
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Now, Lorenzo has crashed more wildly and also more seriously than Sic before he earned his place among the 'Gods', and I didn't hear this kind of talk. Simoncelli is a great talent, he will learn soon how to avoid these mistakes with the cold tires, just as Lorenzo did. Iannone is another great talent and he will show it more and more... Mark my words, see you one year down the line.
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If you don't trust the long (pardon, wide angle
By the way I'm not your paisa' (mark the correct spelling). I was born in Imola, not in southern Italy. In Naples I need an interpreter.
Be well, 'photographer'...
Let's just get this to reflect the way it was:
"Regarding pace... he was doing identical lap times to the front runners throughout
Casey ALWAYS has someone to blame. Simonsilli had his own problem at the start and Stoner lost about 1 sec all by himself. The ~1 sec grew to 8 so he obviously wasn't lapping at the same pace for MOST of the race
8 seconds? as far as i remember Stoner was 3 or 4 seconds behind for most of the race but that lost ground with that back problem.
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Now, Lorenzo has crashed more wildly and also more seriously than Sic before he earned his place among the 'Gods', and I didn't hear this kind of talk. Simoncelli is a great talent, he will learn soon how to avoid these mistakes with the cold tires, just as Lorenzo did. Iannone is another great talent and he will show it more and more... Mark my words, see you one year down the line.
Then you never paid much attention to my posts - just as you appear to have glossed over this one, because I have always referred back to his errant days in 125 and 250 contrasting them with the smooth and measured rider that he has become today.
Lorenzo hasn't earned his place amongst the 'gods' - read my post...today we have aliens...the gods hail from a different era - the golden age 1988 - 1993, I'm not sure that even Valentino would have been worthy of following in their exhaust fumes and as he has said before...neither is he...we shall never know.
I agree...Simoncelli is a great talent, and will soon learn to avoid these mistakes with the cold tyres, just as Lorenzo did. Jorge was wild during his 125 and early 250 days. I also agree - wilder than Simoncelli, and a constant thorn in Dani's side because of it. But his major transformation in discipline and taming of his style and temperament was complete by 2007. Like Lorenzo, Simoncelli matured into a great two stroke rider, but unlike Jorge, he never lost his wild style which he has exported with him into a second successive season of GP. I understand why riders are nervous around him, that's all.
Iannone is indeed another great talent, but his current wild style will similarly not become a Moto GP bike.
If you don't trust the long (pardon, wide angle) lenses check the overhead view as I told you, it confirms it. But I think it's just useless to try to make you reason.
By the way I'm not your paisa' (mark the correct spelling). I was born in Imola, not in southern Italy. In Naples I need an interpreter.
Be well, 'photographer'...
Hi,
"But I think it's just useless to try to make you reason" - you got it
Keshav is ALWAYS right - and the proof is that he says it's so. He's a great believer in quantity of posts, noise and verbal abuse over quality of content and reason
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Sorry - I don't have time for photography 101.
No need for photography 101 classes which I had years back. However, I guess my question warrants an answer
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