All they need to do is BAN HANDMADE TIRES, it'd slow corner speed and make sure nobody get's special treatment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Craig3089 @ Sep 27 2008, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I read this, this morning and i'm really shocked. i thought it was ducati that had helped bridgestone to get to where they were. seems like they're throwing all that development away.
That's the key. It doesn't make any sense at all if you assume their development work HASN'T already been impaired.
The author makes an interesting point by suggesting that they want to be on something different than Rossi, but even that is a bit of a stretch. With the exception of Indy, Stoner has made Rossi look average on the time sheets since Donnington.
The article only makes sense if Ducati have already lost all of their development work. The 2007 Bridgestones that captured a title for Ducati are long gone, except for Kawasaki who can't get their bike sorted enough to try the new tires.
I'm still having problems believing their won't be a control tire. IRTA want it and DORNA has indicated on numerous occasions that the tire competition is going to end up killing someone b/c cornerspeeds are growing so quickly.
If DORNA want it and IRTA want it, a vote should end 2/4 and DORNA can cast the tie breaker. Now that Vale is champ, maybe Ezy doesn't want to force the control tire issue?
That's the key. It doesn't make any sense at all if you assume their development work HASN'T already been impaired.
The author makes an interesting point by suggesting that they want to be on something different than Rossi, but even that is a bit of a stretch. With the exception of Indy, Stoner has made Rossi look average on the time sheets since Donnington.
The article only makes sense if Ducati have already lost all of their development work. The 2007 Bridgestones that captured a title for Ducati are long gone, except for Kawasaki who can't get their bike sorted enough to try the new tires.
I'm still having problems believing their won't be a control tire. IRTA want it and DORNA has indicated on numerous occasions that the tire competition is going to end up killing someone b/c cornerspeeds are growing so quickly.
If DORNA want it and IRTA want it, a vote should end 2/4 and DORNA can cast the tie breaker. Now that Vale is champ, maybe Ezy doesn't want to force the control tire issue?
The way I see it there are three apposing sides. Dorna/Yamaha/Rossi fans who want Rossi to win at all costs but continually call for fairer and closer racing (code phrase for Rossi winning) to stop the "boring parade" (of anyone other than Rossi winning). Second are the teams that have to beat Rossi at all costs and this group is the one with the money that fuels the series and is also the largest group. And third the tire companies who want to beat each other at all costs but aren't in the series to just sell tires cripes they can do that to the general public and make way more money. Close racing does give Rossi the advantage. The opposing teams want, no need, a technical advantage to beat him or at the very least equal technology. The tire companies want a development war and they want to win it. Dorna/Rossi Fans are going to lose out on this one. The manufacturers always get their way and if this is true they have already decided no spec tire. You can't force a company to be a spec tire supplier if no one wants to Dorna/Ezy can say what they want. It is obvious the Dorna/Rossi Fan base are the only ones who want this deal and they are the minority. They may have fan money to bounce around between them but they don't pay the development costs and there is zero dollars to be made for the manufacturers. They want to race and they want to win. To win they have to beat Rossi. Tire development is a major way to take advantage. Brilliant move if you ask me.
I for one think that it would be a really big risk to jump back to Michelin.
Ducati has years of data on the Bridgestone. The bike works brillantly on the new tyres vs the old tyres. The front end feel, tyre durability, edge grip etc all are big advantages to the Bstones.
Year after year the number of wet races/intermediate races play major factors in the title chase and Michelin has not developed a great wet tyre.
It appears there are more problems on the Michelin side than there are for the Stones. Bridgestone needs a good/Great qualifier.
The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
Noone has said anything believeable on this. Bridgestone abandons the Princess that kissed you and made the frong into a Prince. That doesn't make sene.
Ducati has years of data on the Bridgestone. The bike works brillantly on the new tyres vs the old tyres. The front end feel, tyre durability, edge grip etc all are big advantages to the Bstones.
Year after year the number of wet races/intermediate races play major factors in the title chase and Michelin has not developed a great wet tyre.
It appears there are more problems on the Michelin side than there are for the Stones. Bridgestone needs a good/Great qualifier.
The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
Noone has said anything believeable on this. Bridgestone abandons the Princess that kissed you and made the frong into a Prince. That doesn't make sene.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Year after year the number of wet races/intermediate races play major factors in the title chase and Michelin has not developed a great wet tyre.
I think Michelin has done very well with their wet tires this season. As has been pointed out before, Pedrosa and Lorenzo are notoriously poor wet weather riders yet Pedrosa was blindingly quick (before he threw it away) at Sachsenring and Lorenzo had a fabulous race at Indy. Hayden was also on the pace at Indy. I think they're better in the wet than you may think.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
I don't know for sure about Yamaha but I would assume that it would be the same, but the unofficial word from Honda since Bridgestone started making headway in GP about five years ago is they would love to win a WC on Japanese rubber. I would assume Yamaha feel the same way and I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination for Bridgestone to prefer to win with a Japanese manufacturer.
Bridgestone used Ducati to showcase their tires and it worked, they got Rossi and Pedrosa and likely the Fiat and Repsol teams as well. The top factory teams from Japan. Ducati got to show that they are smarter than HRC and Yamaha by making a fundamental change and exploiting its advantages. Now those advantages are all but dried up. Working relationship over. Bridgestone got what they wanted in supplying the best factories from Japan, Ducati got a WC and the opportunity to do it all over again with Michelin.
Given Michelin's track record, I don't think Ducati will be too worried.
I think Michelin has done very well with their wet tires this season. As has been pointed out before, Pedrosa and Lorenzo are notoriously poor wet weather riders yet Pedrosa was blindingly quick (before he threw it away) at Sachsenring and Lorenzo had a fabulous race at Indy. Hayden was also on the pace at Indy. I think they're better in the wet than you may think.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
I don't know for sure about Yamaha but I would assume that it would be the same, but the unofficial word from Honda since Bridgestone started making headway in GP about five years ago is they would love to win a WC on Japanese rubber. I would assume Yamaha feel the same way and I don't think it would be a stretch of the imagination for Bridgestone to prefer to win with a Japanese manufacturer.
Bridgestone used Ducati to showcase their tires and it worked, they got Rossi and Pedrosa and likely the Fiat and Repsol teams as well. The top factory teams from Japan. Ducati got to show that they are smarter than HRC and Yamaha by making a fundamental change and exploiting its advantages. Now those advantages are all but dried up. Working relationship over. Bridgestone got what they wanted in supplying the best factories from Japan, Ducati got a WC and the opportunity to do it all over again with Michelin.
Given Michelin's track record, I don't think Ducati will be too worried.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Duc999 @ Sep 27 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I for one think that it would be a really big risk to jump back to Michelin.
Ducati has years of data on the Bridgestone. The bike works brillantly on the new tyres vs the old tyres. The front end feel, tyre durability, edge grip etc all are big advantages to the Bstones.
Year after year the number of wet races/intermediate races play major factors in the title chase and Michelin has not developed a great wet tyre.
It appears there are more problems on the Michelin side than there are for the Stones. Bridgestone needs a good/Great qualifier.
The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
Noone has said anything believeable on this. Bridgestone abandons the Princess that kissed you and made the frong into a Prince. That doesn't make sene.
It makes sense if Ducati see that they are now second rate to Rossi/Pedrosa/Yamaha/Honda. Now they will not be the main development team they will get seconds. So, why not go to Michelin, who have been doing well lately, and drive things their way.
Ducati has years of data on the Bridgestone. The bike works brillantly on the new tyres vs the old tyres. The front end feel, tyre durability, edge grip etc all are big advantages to the Bstones.
Year after year the number of wet races/intermediate races play major factors in the title chase and Michelin has not developed a great wet tyre.
It appears there are more problems on the Michelin side than there are for the Stones. Bridgestone needs a good/Great qualifier.
The only thing that makes any sense to me is the pecking order thingy that was mentioned- if it were true. But the question remains - WHY WOULD BRIDGESTONE FAVOR RepsolHRC, Fiat Yamaha over Ducati.
Noone has said anything believeable on this. Bridgestone abandons the Princess that kissed you and made the frong into a Prince. That doesn't make sene.
It makes sense if Ducati see that they are now second rate to Rossi/Pedrosa/Yamaha/Honda. Now they will not be the main development team they will get seconds. So, why not go to Michelin, who have been doing well lately, and drive things their way.
im actually quite shocked to read ducati are changing back to michilin. when it became common knowledge that hayden was going to ducati a few members including myself asked if ducati would run stones for stoner and michilin for hayden. most thought hayden would be on stones in ducati. i wonder if hayden new about this plan prior to signing to ducati and i wonder how stoner feels about this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 27 2008, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im actually quite shocked to read ducati are changing back to michilin. when it became common knowledge that hayden was going to ducati a few members including myself asked if ducati would run stones for stoner and michilin for hayden. most thought hayden would be on stones in ducati. i wonder if hayden new about this plan prior to signing to ducati and i wonder how stoner feels about this.
I was under the impression that Hayden wanted to move to the Stones. I don't think that he will be very happy about this news. You never know though it could work out.
I was under the impression that Hayden wanted to move to the Stones. I don't think that he will be very happy about this news. You never know though it could work out.
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Well if this doesn't show you how bad they want to manufacture a title and a champion. All of them are ...... ....... except for Ducati. Fine we won the WC and now you want to turn your back and just so you can have a magazine add with Rossi or pedrosa. I hope they all fail miserably. Good then if they can do that Michelin is able to fly is .... overnight again. Then once Ducati starts beating them again you'll hear the wussie squad cry they don't want Bridgestones they all want Michelins. This has to be the biggest ........ to come across the pipeline in a long time. It's bad enough Rossi put the pressure on to get the bridgestones then assdrosa does the same .... and he gets them MID SEASON. OHHHHH KKKKK !!!!!! Why even race the ...... .... just hand them titles and take all the pictures you want and we can just pretend they really won it on merit. ....... ........!!!
Well this is a bit of a shock if it happens. It could also be a masterstroke or a disaster. The michelins seem to have come good again of late so it may well be a very good idea.
It would be great for Hayden, but probably less so for Stoner. Stoner never liked the front end feel of the michelins when he was on the honda, but who knows, they may come up trumps on a ducati.
It's so bizarre, but it makes sense. I wonder if kawasaki or suzuki will go the same way?
It would be great for Hayden, but probably less so for Stoner. Stoner never liked the front end feel of the michelins when he was on the honda, but who knows, they may come up trumps on a ducati.
It's so bizarre, but it makes sense. I wonder if kawasaki or suzuki will go the same way?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Sep 27 2008, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well this is a bit of a shock if it happens. It could also be a masterstroke or a disaster. The michelins seem to have come good again of late so it may well be a very good idea.
It would be great for Hayden, but probably less so for Stoner. Stoner never liked the front end feel of the michelins when he was on the honda, but who knows, they may come up trumps on a ducati.
It's so bizarre, but it makes sense. I wonder if kawasaki or suzuki will go the same way?
true but hasn't he complained about the front bridgestone lately also ?
It would be great for Hayden, but probably less so for Stoner. Stoner never liked the front end feel of the michelins when he was on the honda, but who knows, they may come up trumps on a ducati.
It's so bizarre, but it makes sense. I wonder if kawasaki or suzuki will go the same way?
true but hasn't he complained about the front bridgestone lately also ?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 27 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well if this doesn't show you how bad they want to manufacture a title and a champion. All of them are ...... ....... except for Ducati. Fine we won the WC and now you want to turn your back and just so you can have a magazine add with Rossi or pedrosa. I hope they all fail miserably. Good then if they can do that Michelin is able to fly is .... overnight again. Then once Ducati starts beating them again you'll hear the wussie squad cry they don't want Bridgestones they all want Michelins. This has to be the biggest ........ to come across the pipeline in a long time. It's bad enough Rossi put the pressure on to get the bridgestones then assdrosa does the same .... and he gets them MID SEASON. OHHHHH KKKKK !!!!!! Why even race the ...... .... just hand them titles and take all the pictures you want and we can just pretend they really won it on merit. ....... ........!!!
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Its strange that livio suppo is saying that different tyres is the only way to have the upper hand over Rossi Does not see anyone else as a title threat ?
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Sep 28 2008, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its strange that livio suppo is saying that different tyres is the only way to have the upper hand over Rossi Does not see anyone else as a title threat ?
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?
Is it just possible that every team is out there looking for an advantage over their opposition?
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?
Is it just possible that every team is out there looking for an advantage over their opposition?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Sep 27 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>4919:sourgrapes.jpg]
yeah whatever. Sour grapes my .... It's called oh .... ducati ...... kicked our ..... lets go get the same tires they have so we can do what they did. Good .... em I hope ducati does switch to Michelins and gets the .... together with them so they all want to jump ship.
yeah whatever. Sour grapes my .... It's called oh .... ducati ...... kicked our ..... lets go get the same tires they have so we can do what they did. Good .... em I hope ducati does switch to Michelins and gets the .... together with them so they all want to jump ship.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ROCKGOD01 @ Sep 28 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yeah whatever. Sour grapes my .... It's called oh .... ducati ...... kicked our ..... lets go get the same tires they have so we can do what they did. Good .... em I hope ducati does switch to Michelins and gets the .... together with them so they all want to jump ship.
you forget that ducati switch from michilin to bridgstone to try and get the edge in the past. whats your problem ? no ones forcing them to change, wtf does it matter to then if peeps like rossio and pedro changed ?
you forget that ducati switch from michilin to bridgstone to try and get the edge in the past. whats your problem ? no ones forcing them to change, wtf does it matter to then if peeps like rossio and pedro changed ?
Hi Guys
One thing that makes me laugh is Michelin have been winning Tittles for years and years and
None of the teams would even consider giving the Stones a chance, now that they are the tyres
to be on, (Thanks to Ducati) Bridgestone to me dont seem to give a .... ABOUT DUCATI.
Certain CRY BABIES have now got there way and are on the Stones as well, and it looks like the JAP Teams are getting the good stuff, where as Ducati arnt getting the good stuff anyone can see that.
It makes sence for the Jap Teams and Bridgestone to want Jap Tyres, on a Jap bike, winning the tittle. I think its Bridgestone who are forgetting how they got there... Loyolty means alot to me and Bridgestone aint got any at all..
Anyway on the plus side, i think Livio Suppo is a GENIUS what a move this would be, wait for the CRY BABIES to commit to the Stones then swap over the Michelin..
It makes alot of sence to me, think of how Ducati know all about Bridgestones Compounds the 07 tyres, think how Michelin would love a little pay back for the way they have been treated as well.
To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06? but when i think of this in 06 Casey was on a 4th string Satelite Honda team, and if i remember in 06 at the start he was getting tyres, till he started on Pole at Qatar and nearly won in Turkey, 06 went down hill reall quick after that. I think also if it does happen Ducati will be there number 1 focus and Michelin arnt far off the mark at the moment, so i think they will work closely with Casey to make him happy.
Remeber when Casey getting good Michelin tyres in 06 he did well..
I hope this happens and Michelin/Ducati kick some serious ... with Stoner/Hayden that would be sweet, then you watch all the CRY BABIES Riders Teams want Michelin again.
Just off track here a bit, another thing that gets to me is Honda/Yamaha cant Beat Ducati in a straight Fight so they take there tyres cos they cant BUILD A DECENT Engine as well. The Japs really piss me off hey, heres a small Italian Team with less then Half The Budget and they cant beat them, so they go about it in other ways i hope the new Frame in the GP09 with Michelin are unbeatable next year, then this time next year we will be talking a bout a NEW Michelin Control Tyre, then when that happens mabe Bridgestone will regret the day they ...... OVER THAT SAMLL ITALIAN TEAM.
One thing that makes me laugh is Michelin have been winning Tittles for years and years and
None of the teams would even consider giving the Stones a chance, now that they are the tyres
to be on, (Thanks to Ducati) Bridgestone to me dont seem to give a .... ABOUT DUCATI.
Certain CRY BABIES have now got there way and are on the Stones as well, and it looks like the JAP Teams are getting the good stuff, where as Ducati arnt getting the good stuff anyone can see that.
It makes sence for the Jap Teams and Bridgestone to want Jap Tyres, on a Jap bike, winning the tittle. I think its Bridgestone who are forgetting how they got there... Loyolty means alot to me and Bridgestone aint got any at all..
Anyway on the plus side, i think Livio Suppo is a GENIUS what a move this would be, wait for the CRY BABIES to commit to the Stones then swap over the Michelin..
It makes alot of sence to me, think of how Ducati know all about Bridgestones Compounds the 07 tyres, think how Michelin would love a little pay back for the way they have been treated as well.
To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06? but when i think of this in 06 Casey was on a 4th string Satelite Honda team, and if i remember in 06 at the start he was getting tyres, till he started on Pole at Qatar and nearly won in Turkey, 06 went down hill reall quick after that. I think also if it does happen Ducati will be there number 1 focus and Michelin arnt far off the mark at the moment, so i think they will work closely with Casey to make him happy.
Remeber when Casey getting good Michelin tyres in 06 he did well..
I hope this happens and Michelin/Ducati kick some serious ... with Stoner/Hayden that would be sweet, then you watch all the CRY BABIES Riders Teams want Michelin again.
Just off track here a bit, another thing that gets to me is Honda/Yamaha cant Beat Ducati in a straight Fight so they take there tyres cos they cant BUILD A DECENT Engine as well. The Japs really piss me off hey, heres a small Italian Team with less then Half The Budget and they cant beat them, so they go about it in other ways i hope the new Frame in the GP09 with Michelin are unbeatable next year, then this time next year we will be talking a bout a NEW Michelin Control Tyre, then when that happens mabe Bridgestone will regret the day they ...... OVER THAT SAMLL ITALIAN TEAM.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dion @ Sep 27 2008, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Its strange that livio suppo is saying that different tyres is the only way to have the upper hand over Rossi Does not see anyone else as a title threat ?
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?That was said when they first switched to Bridgestones several years ago, from what I recall. It wasn't just about Rossi being dominant (which he clearly was at that point in time) but about him dominating tire development, getting the fly-in specials, etc. As a small fish in a big pond ruled by Rossi, Ducati wasn't in a position to put together a championship winning package.
His comments makes me laugh, theres me thinking stoners form was that of his good riding a and good bike ! Nothing to do with the black things.
Is Suppo saying that on equal machinery rossi is unbeatable ?That was said when they first switched to Bridgestones several years ago, from what I recall. It wasn't just about Rossi being dominant (which he clearly was at that point in time) but about him dominating tire development, getting the fly-in specials, etc. As a small fish in a big pond ruled by Rossi, Ducati wasn't in a position to put together a championship winning package.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stoner27 @ Sep 28 2008, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Hi Guys
One thing that makes me laugh is Michelin have been winning Tittles for years and years and
None of the teams would even consider giving the Stones a chance, now that they are the tyres
to be on, (Thanks to Ducati) Bridgestone to me dont seem to give a .... ABOUT DUCATI.
Certain CRY BABIES have now got there way and are on the Stones as well, and it looks like the JAP Teams are getting the good stuff, where as Ducati arnt getting the good stuff anyone can see that.
It makes sence for the Jap Teams and Bridgestone to want Jap Tyres, on a Jap bike, winning the tittle. I think its Bridgestone who are forgetting how they got there... Loyolty means alot to me and Bridgestone aint got any at all..
Anyway on the plus side, i think Livio Suppo is a GENIUS what a move this would be, wait for the CRY BABIES to commit to the Stones then swap over the Michelin..
It makes alot of sence to me, think of how Ducati know all about Bridgestones Compounds the 07 tyres, think how Michelin would love a little pay back for the way they have been treated as well.
To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06? but when i think of this in 06 Casey was on a 4th string Satelite Honda team, and if i remember in 06 at the start he was getting tyres, till he started on Pole at Qatar and nearly won in Turkey, 06 went down hill reall quick after that. I think also if it does happen Ducati will be there number 1 focus and Michelin arnt far off the mark at the moment, so i think they will work closely with Casey to make him happy.
Remeber when Casey getting good Michelin tyres in 06 he did well..
I hope this happens and Michelin/Ducati kick some serious ... with Stoner/Hayden that would be sweet, then you watch all the CRY BABIES Riders Teams want Michelin again.
Just off track here a bit, another thing that gets to me is Honda/Yamaha cant Beat Ducati in a straight Fight so they take there tyres cos they cant BUILD A DECENT Engine as well. The Japs really piss me off hey, heres a small Italian Team with less then Half The Budget and they cant beat them, so they go about it in other ways i hope the new Frame in the GP09 with Michelin are unbeatable next year, then this time next year we will be talking a bout a NEW Michelin Control Tyre, then when that happens mabe Bridgestone will regret the day they ...... OVER THAT SAMLL ITALIAN TEAM.
this is nothing but speculation on your part. how and why did b/stone .... over ducati ?
we can all speculate mate. mabe ducati changed because they didnt want an even playing field with a control tyre. speculation is not fact. with respect i think your above post is total bollocks.
i think this statement of yours showed your hand "To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06"
One thing that makes me laugh is Michelin have been winning Tittles for years and years and
None of the teams would even consider giving the Stones a chance, now that they are the tyres
to be on, (Thanks to Ducati) Bridgestone to me dont seem to give a .... ABOUT DUCATI.
Certain CRY BABIES have now got there way and are on the Stones as well, and it looks like the JAP Teams are getting the good stuff, where as Ducati arnt getting the good stuff anyone can see that.
It makes sence for the Jap Teams and Bridgestone to want Jap Tyres, on a Jap bike, winning the tittle. I think its Bridgestone who are forgetting how they got there... Loyolty means alot to me and Bridgestone aint got any at all..
Anyway on the plus side, i think Livio Suppo is a GENIUS what a move this would be, wait for the CRY BABIES to commit to the Stones then swap over the Michelin..
It makes alot of sence to me, think of how Ducati know all about Bridgestones Compounds the 07 tyres, think how Michelin would love a little pay back for the way they have been treated as well.
To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06? but when i think of this in 06 Casey was on a 4th string Satelite Honda team, and if i remember in 06 at the start he was getting tyres, till he started on Pole at Qatar and nearly won in Turkey, 06 went down hill reall quick after that. I think also if it does happen Ducati will be there number 1 focus and Michelin arnt far off the mark at the moment, so i think they will work closely with Casey to make him happy.
Remeber when Casey getting good Michelin tyres in 06 he did well..
I hope this happens and Michelin/Ducati kick some serious ... with Stoner/Hayden that would be sweet, then you watch all the CRY BABIES Riders Teams want Michelin again.
Just off track here a bit, another thing that gets to me is Honda/Yamaha cant Beat Ducati in a straight Fight so they take there tyres cos they cant BUILD A DECENT Engine as well. The Japs really piss me off hey, heres a small Italian Team with less then Half The Budget and they cant beat them, so they go about it in other ways i hope the new Frame in the GP09 with Michelin are unbeatable next year, then this time next year we will be talking a bout a NEW Michelin Control Tyre, then when that happens mabe Bridgestone will regret the day they ...... OVER THAT SAMLL ITALIAN TEAM.
this is nothing but speculation on your part. how and why did b/stone .... over ducati ?
we can all speculate mate. mabe ducati changed because they didnt want an even playing field with a control tyre. speculation is not fact. with respect i think your above post is total bollocks.
i think this statement of yours showed your hand "To me the worry is that Casey may have trouble on Michelin tyres think 06"
