<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 2 2009, 09:12 AM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>are you saying slow = erratic ? i don't understand what your saying. spies said Tc benefits erratic rider's greatly, i asked who you consider to be erratic and who you consider to be smooth ? do you think stoner is a smooth rider ??
I think again you are misinterpreting what TC is is.
TC is a device/system that stops riders being bucked off, loosing it etc. due to poor riding, thus they don't get hurt, nor wreck equipment, but they do make it too the finish..
It won't make them faster ...... but it will slow them if they are getting ragged and attempt to keep them on the bike.
I think you guys think by "benefit" Spies means ...will make them faster
That seems where the misinterpretation is coming in. Whereas the "benefit" is purely that the bike will attempt to stop them crashing. Nothing to do with speed, though the outcome is good for many as they actually finish the race instead of going to the hospital ...... saying TC makes you go faster is like saying I can drive better with my "airbag" inflated
a limit system triggers something to keep you safe .... thats all TC is ... nothing more nothing leas.
When Spies says, "TC does not benefit smooth riders" he probably means:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BarryMachine @ Mar 1 2009, 06:32 PM)
<{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>If the rider is:
twitchy, or over enthusiastic, with the throttle ...... he will be limitted by TC
twitchy, or over enthusiastic, with turning .......... " " "
twitchy, or over enthusiastic, with weight placement ....." " "
But if he accelerates well, leans well, and turns in well ....... the control system will not be seeing him as a "danger" and hence not limiting him ....... so then he will be as fast as he would if he had no TC whatsoever.
A team/rider who wants to be fast will gamble with safety, and set the limits of the algorithm as such.
A team that wants their costs to be less from equipment damage .... will set the limits low.
A rider who wants to just ride around safely would ask to have the limits to be set low ....... though I strongly doubt this has ever happened
I can't even get how that nor what Spies said can be misinterpreted ....... you guys are weird
On Stoner as you specifically asked ... yes I think he is one of the smoothest riders out there, but I think he does it by brute force hence why we see him moving about a lot and wrestling the bike into "the right place" ... "the smooth line" .......... but I do also think he rides very close to "the edge" but knows how to describe whats happening so that his lecko can adjust what parameters he can to keep him upright and fast. Hence why we see him pulling looooong smooth moderate slides .... The TC thinks its a smooth manouver so lets him do it. Nobody flows like Stoner ..... so yes he doesn't get "airbagged" by the TC.