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Destructive Power of the Media- the end of reason.

Chopper,pack ice melting does not effect sea levels as its weight is already accounted for (displacement) its the melting ice on land that makes the sea rise and it is melting.

Exactly mate. water expands when its turned into ice. Once it de-frosts it shrinks back to its liquid volume.
 
Anyway bring back 500 two strokes and we can have decent racing again and a warm planet sorted.
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This is how i see it.

climate change does exist in that we change the climate we live in. That can be cutting down the rain forests , polluting the water, upsetting water tables by building where we shouldn't, polluting the air we breath ect. What i dispute is that we cause the warming up or cooling down of the planet or that we are capable of killing the planet. The planet will kill us or we will kill ourselves, not the other way around.
 
This is how i see it.

climate change does exist in that we change the climate we live in. That can be cutting down the rain forests , polluting the water, upsetting water tables by building where we shouldn't, polluting the air we breath ect. What i dispute is that we cause the warming up or cooling down of the planet or that we are capable of killing the planet. The planet will kill us or we will kill ourselves, not the other way around.





Ok but what about 500 two strokes ??
 
Your asking a man that drive's a performance turbo car
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hell bring the smokers back asap. .... the whales, save the 2 stroke's and the V8.



I thought we had something in common buddy, twin turbo very sorted rs6 645bhp 590flbs of tourqe,we should get together and pollute.
 
I thought we had something in common buddy, twin turbo very sorted rs6 645bhp 590flbs of tourqe,we should get together and pollute.

cool, big power ! Im keeping my RB320 to 380/450 for a while. Quick enough for this old boy. Post some pics up in the lounge mate, i'd love to see it and spec ect.
 
funny how rising seas are blamed on the ice pack melting yet no one ever considers land reclamation.The earth's axis has changed as has our orbit since the ice packs were formed. Both of these will have a direct effect on temperature. The ice may melt and even form elsewhere in the future.



......and who is reclaiming that land?
 
funny how rising seas are blamed on the ice pack melting yet no one ever considers land reclamation.The earth's axis has changed as has our orbit since the ice packs were formed. Both of these will have a direct effect on temperature. The ice may melt and even form elsewhere in the future.

Here is a perfect example of climate science being nothing but SWAG's.



Arctic Ice is melting, Antarctic ice is growing. What does a pro global warming scientist say



Satellite data show that, over the past 30 years, Arctic sea ice has declined while Antarctic sea ice has mysteriously expanded, according to study leader Jiping Liu, a research scientist at Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

"We've seen this paradox, but we don't know why—. But he is sure, but not sure when, that the Antarctic will soon start to melt just like the Arctic. Its almost laughable to listen to the clowns sometimes.
 
Hell Yeah!!!

.... the whales n the planet too!

Lets have fun!!!!



This is how you save mgp,you build 30 ROC yzr 500's all identicle with no advanced electronics and you lease them to the top 30 riders then we would see who is the fastest rider on the planet,as most people on here think im a Rossi hater ill state now even at his age if this happened next year he would blow them away.
 

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This is how you save mgp,you build 30 ROC yzr 500's all identicle with no advanced electronics and you lease them to the top 30 riders then we would see who is the fastest rider on the planet,as most people on here think im a Rossi hater ill state now even at his age if this happened next year he would blow them away.

ooooh yeah. The days when men were men and women were glad of it !
 
Ah I can smell the lovely 2stroke fumes right now walking around the track - ooops green fresh air your meant to say but .... it bring back the ol days !
 
Sorry, but in the context of the global warming debate that's lame man ! Jeez, these scientists can't even agree whether the planet is heating up or cooling down
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One thing's fact though. The more this scam gets banded about the more we pay for less fuel.



Lame? It is a ridicilous argument in any context.



"These scientists" agree to the extent that they usually do. Given the complexity of the proces, there is actually an awful lot of consensus. I posted a Royal Society meta report, public access and readable to the public a few posts back if you are in doubt.
 
Lame? It is a ridicilous argument in any context.



"These scientists" agree to the extent that they usually do. Given the complexity of the proces, there is actually an awful lot of consensus. I posted a Royal Society meta report, public access and readable to the public a few posts back if you are in doubt.

That wasn't the post of yours i was calling lame. I was refering to this post.



stiefel, on 19 July 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

People have be en dying for millions of years. Therefore, murder does not happen.

So who are these scientists? None of us know. Just phantoms i suspect. A while ago i read an article about 80% of the scientists trying to have there names removed from this global warming scam that was perpetuated by the bigwigs who run the energy company's.. Just because someone went to the effort of producing a PDF doc doesn't make it's content fact.
 
That wasn't the post of yours i was calling lame. I was refering to this post.





So who are these scientists? None of us know. Just phantoms i suspect. A while ago i read an article about 80% of the scientists trying to have there names removed from this global warming scam that was perpetuated by the bigwigs who run the energy company's.. Just because someone went to the effort of producing a PDF doc doesn't make it's content fact.

I know you were. I fear the point may have been lost on you. To recapulate, the long time occurence of an event does not negate short term effects on the occurence of an event. Nor do multiple causes negate the existence of a subset of causes.



I have no problem finding out who these "phantoms" are. It's called a reference list.



Indeed, anyone can produce a text. Some texts are a product of sound theory, empirical data, rigorous testing and a challenging peer-review process. Others are not. Ultimately, it is up to you what to believe. It's there for the taking.
 
This is how i see it.

climate change does exist in that we change the climate we live in. That can be cutting down the rain forests , polluting the water, upsetting water tables by building where we shouldn't, polluting the air we breath ect. What i dispute is that we cause the warming up or cooling down of the planet or that we are capable of killing the planet. The planet will kill us or we will kill ourselves, not the other way around.

Actually in the timeline of the planet and the universe we humans are an insignificant piece of dust that will soon enough become irrelevent when BarryM evolves past us. Ok bad joke but really we are so caught up with ourselves. The planet and universe cares nothing about what we do or dont do. The planet will recover from anything we can do to it and the next race will look back on us as the dinosours. The only arguement that works on me is save the planet for the children.
 

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