<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 12 2007, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I bet you my house that Rossi would of beaten Stoner if they were both on the same bike,
not sure mum and dad would like you betting there house away unless you own your own place at 15 yrs old.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats puzzling me in this thread - is that if the win was down to bike power more than rider ability, how come Capirossi wasnt in the top three?
Casey rode a flawless race - nice to see he didnt end up in teh kitty litter too
He didn't stay on the bike long enough! He was in P5 when he crashed out, and was making his way further up with plenty of time left to do so.
Rog - yes I own the house so what I say goes.
Casey rode a flawless race - nice to see he didnt end up in teh kitty litter too
He didn't stay on the bike long enough! He was in P5 when he crashed out, and was making his way further up with plenty of time left to do so.
Rog - yes I own the house so what I say goes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 12 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>BTW Rog, who's your avatar?
Austin are kidding me right !!!
its the lovley katja
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats puzzling me in this thread - is that if the win was down to bike power more than rider ability, how come Capirossi wasnt in the top three?
the obvious reason was because he crashed out
seriously tho,i wonder how different the 2 bikes were before the race and if they were using the same type of fuel
Austin are kidding me right !!!
its the lovley katja
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whats puzzling me in this thread - is that if the win was down to bike power more than rider ability, how come Capirossi wasnt in the top three?
the obvious reason was because he crashed out
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 12 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Rog - yes I own the house so what I say goes.
every parents nightmare, the kid pulling all the strings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 12 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As soon as I posted it I realized, sorry mate.
probably the corona leathers that threw you.
every parents nightmare, the kid pulling all the strings.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Austin @ Mar 12 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As soon as I posted it I realized, sorry mate.
probably the corona leathers that threw you.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 12 2007, 04:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>He didn't stay on the bike long enough! He was in P5 when he crashed out, and was making his way further up with plenty of time left to do so.
Rog - yes I own the house so what I say goes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 12 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin are kidding me right !!!
its the lovley katja
the obvious reason was because he crashed out
seriously tho,i wonder how different the 2 bikes were before the race and if they were using the same type of fuel
yes I realise he crashed out
But he want going to be challenging for the top two spots was he?!!
Loris aint no slouch, its gonna be intersting comparing Stoners & Loris' results this year.
So Rog, does this mean Edwards & Loris got the esso unleaded............and Rossi and Stoner got aviation fuel
Have I missed something on the fuel here? Or is it from Max Biaggi's 101 excuses?
Rog - yes I own the house so what I say goes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (roger-m @ Mar 12 2007, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Austin are kidding me right !!!
its the lovley katja
the obvious reason was because he crashed out
yes I realise he crashed out
Loris aint no slouch, its gonna be intersting comparing Stoners & Loris' results this year.
So Rog, does this mean Edwards & Loris got the esso unleaded............and Rossi and Stoner got aviation fuel
Have I missed something on the fuel here? Or is it from Max Biaggi's 101 excuses?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>yes I realise he crashed out
But he want going to be challenging for the top two spots was he?!!
Whyever not? If he'd stayed on. He'd just put in best lap when he crashed. Then again. He could've been third. Then again...IF IF IF...BUT BUT BUT....This is all your fault Ben. Your forum is causing us to fritter and waste our lives away!
Whyever not? If he'd stayed on. He'd just put in best lap when he crashed. Then again. He could've been third. Then again...IF IF IF...BUT BUT BUT....This is all your fault Ben. Your forum is causing us to fritter and waste our lives away!
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Mar 12 2007, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Whyever not? If he'd stayed on. He'd just put in best lap when he crashed. Then again. He could've been third. Then again...IF IF IF...BUT BUT BUT....This is all your fault Ben. Your forum is causing us to fritter and waste our lives away!
Coz I went and had my tea leave read on Friday, they told me too pick Carlos Checca for my fantasy team
I just dont believe Loris had the pace to do it I'm afraid
Coz I went and had my tea leave read on Friday, they told me too pick Carlos Checca for my fantasy team
I just dont believe Loris had the pace to do it I'm afraid
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Have I missed something on the fuel here? Or is it from Max Biaggi's 101 excuses?
yup max was full of them.
i think the fuel idea came from toby or juels mentioning that shell had bought a "special
" fuel for the ducatis . im not sure what the rules are for fuel blends in motogp or are there any ???
i think the fuel idea came from toby or juels mentioning that shell had bought a "special
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Did they, missed that.
Its prob redex or something
BG - I havnt written him off (sounds like the Italian media have??) - I really like Loris - he's a class act, botth on and off the track. I'll never forget the battle he had with Vale at Sepang - it was awesome being there
But it's still gonna be interesting to see how the results compare bewteen Loris & Stoner though
Its prob redex or something
BG - I havnt written him off (sounds like the Italian media have??) - I really like Loris - he's a class act, botth on and off the track. I'll never forget the battle he had with Vale at Sepang - it was awesome being there
But it's still gonna be interesting to see how the results compare bewteen Loris & Stoner though
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just dont believe Loris had the pace to do it I'm afraid
Me neither.
Me neither.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BEN @ Mar 12 2007, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I just dont believe Loris had the pace to do it I'm afraid
Well was Stoner pushing the bike all the way do you think? There was talk of him using maximum revs...was this why do you think?
Well was Stoner pushing the bike all the way do you think? There was talk of him using maximum revs...was this why do you think?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Mar 12 2007, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Tom...you turned this thread into this sorry mess. Check out what you yourself said. Burky started the threat to discuss Casey...and you put Vale being 'outridden' into all of it. Until you did that, all of Vale's mindless cheerleading gang fans were happily in agreement that hell yes, Casey ran a great race.
But the definition of being outridden is not one rider crossing the finish line a couple of seconds behind another when both of them have run a flawless race to the best of their machinery's capabilities. Outriding someone implies leaving them in miles of your dirt and making them look like a beginner compared to a pro. That's not what happened.
And certainly don't go around blaming Vale's fans for standing up for him with a comment like that. Like I said..YOU started this. Take responsability. People will answer back when provoked.
You may not choose to believe this, but i was not intentionaly provoking at all. I was agreeing with Burky about Stoners excellent acheivement, and just mentioned Rossi to put perspective on the win. I was especially impressed that his first win came in a straight fight with the doctor. I didn't think for a minute people would be this angry about it.
Honestly, how many of you would say that Hayden outrode Rossi on capirossi at mugello last year when he was 14th fastest on the straights and helf on to the Local boys for the entire race?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 12 2007, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well was Stoner pushing the bike all the way do you think? There was talk of him using maximum revs...was this why do you think?
Loris struggled in practice, had a few big moments with the ducati trying to trow him off. He got his grid position by asking stoner for help and following him on his hot lap, and was obviously pushing too hard early in the race.
But the definition of being outridden is not one rider crossing the finish line a couple of seconds behind another when both of them have run a flawless race to the best of their machinery's capabilities. Outriding someone implies leaving them in miles of your dirt and making them look like a beginner compared to a pro. That's not what happened.
And certainly don't go around blaming Vale's fans for standing up for him with a comment like that. Like I said..YOU started this. Take responsability. People will answer back when provoked.
You may not choose to believe this, but i was not intentionaly provoking at all. I was agreeing with Burky about Stoners excellent acheivement, and just mentioned Rossi to put perspective on the win. I was especially impressed that his first win came in a straight fight with the doctor. I didn't think for a minute people would be this angry about it.
Honestly, how many of you would say that Hayden outrode Rossi on capirossi at mugello last year when he was 14th fastest on the straights and helf on to the Local boys for the entire race?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Alex @ Mar 12 2007, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well was Stoner pushing the bike all the way do you think? There was talk of him using maximum revs...was this why do you think?
Loris struggled in practice, had a few big moments with the ducati trying to trow him off. He got his grid position by asking stoner for help and following him on his hot lap, and was obviously pushing too hard early in the race.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 12 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>You may not choose to believe this, but i was not intentionaly provoking at all. I was agreeing with Burky about Stoners excellent acheivement, and just mentioned Rossi to put perspective on the win. I was especially impressed that his first win came in a straight fight with the doctor. I didn't think for a minute people would be this angry about it.
Fact remains that Rossi should have stayed out of it and it was you who put him into the picture. Rossi's fans weren't upset that Rossi came second...only about your derogatory comment.
Fact remains that Rossi should have stayed out of it and it was you who put him into the picture. Rossi's fans weren't upset that Rossi came second...only about your derogatory comment.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Mar 12 2007, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fact remains that Rossi should have stayed out of it and it was you who put him into the picture. Rossi's fans weren't upset that Rossi came second...only about your derogatory comment.
Well i am sorry that everyone gets so upset about it but i don't come on here to put rossi down. Like i have said before, i like rossi. I brought rossi into the picture because rossi was the competition in Casey's maiden win, something that i think is significant as a poitive for Stoner. Maybe you should put a notice out to only mention Rossis name if hes winning. That would prevent a lot of argument on here.
Well i am sorry that everyone gets so upset about it but i don't come on here to put rossi down. Like i have said before, i like rossi. I brought rossi into the picture because rossi was the competition in Casey's maiden win, something that i think is significant as a poitive for Stoner. Maybe you should put a notice out to only mention Rossis name if hes winning. That would prevent a lot of argument on here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Tom @ Mar 12 2007, 05:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Well i am sorry that everyone gets so upset about it but i don't come on here to put rossi down. Like i have said before, i like rossi. I brought rossi into the picture because rossi was the competition in Casey's maiden win, something that i think is significant as a poitive for Stoner.
well to be honest i did take your comment as needless rossi bashing and reacted to it like any fan would. secondy i think bikergirl hit the nail square on the head here, rossi fans like myself were not atall pissed to see stoner win and rossi come a well earned second it was a fantastic race althow im sure hayden fans are dissapointed,but it was your remark that got my fingers banging the keyboard.
well to be honest i did take your comment as needless rossi bashing and reacted to it like any fan would. secondy i think bikergirl hit the nail square on the head here, rossi fans like myself were not atall pissed to see stoner win and rossi come a well earned second it was a fantastic race althow im sure hayden fans are dissapointed,but it was your remark that got my fingers banging the keyboard.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bikergirl @ Mar 13 2007, 02:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>Fact remains that Rossi should have stayed out of it and it was you who put him into the picture. Rossi's fans weren't upset that Rossi came second...only about your derogatory comment.
After your first post to Tom [fair comment, too, calling him out for complaining about the direction of the thread], I went back and read the first page of this thread. Rossi had already been injected into the thread by Burky:
"it's a rare thing to see Valentino settling for second"
The very next comment was from Tom:
"Yeah, Vale got out ridden didn't he."
In that context it seems fairly innocuous. But from there Bablefish, then Burky and then Tom started a fire.
Outridden is a very emotive word to use, especially when #46 is the object not the subject of a sentence. In any case I don't really think it's applicable in this situation. Neither outrode the other; to claim Rossi outrode Stoner shouldn't he have won the race?
Stoner rode a faultless race. And in his own words, rode to the strengths of his bike. Rossi was carrying some serious corner speed through the slower turns; looks like it could be Yamaha's big advantage this year (he should be untouchable at Sachenring!). It enabled him to hang with Stoner, even though he was getting killed on acceleration, and put up similar lap times. Well done to both.
Changing gears slightly, does anyone think this year might see a more regimented return to tracks favouring one bike make over another (like the old Honda lanes at Hockenheim, etc)?
After your first post to Tom [fair comment, too, calling him out for complaining about the direction of the thread], I went back and read the first page of this thread. Rossi had already been injected into the thread by Burky:
"it's a rare thing to see Valentino settling for second"
The very next comment was from Tom:
"Yeah, Vale got out ridden didn't he."
In that context it seems fairly innocuous. But from there Bablefish, then Burky and then Tom started a fire.
Outridden is a very emotive word to use, especially when #46 is the object not the subject of a sentence. In any case I don't really think it's applicable in this situation. Neither outrode the other; to claim Rossi outrode Stoner shouldn't he have won the race?
Stoner rode a faultless race. And in his own words, rode to the strengths of his bike. Rossi was carrying some serious corner speed through the slower turns; looks like it could be Yamaha's big advantage this year (he should be untouchable at Sachenring!). It enabled him to hang with Stoner, even though he was getting killed on acceleration, and put up similar lap times. Well done to both.
Changing gears slightly, does anyone think this year might see a more regimented return to tracks favouring one bike make over another (like the old Honda lanes at Hockenheim, etc)?
