Cal Crutchlow???? WTF

lil red rocket pilot · Apr 8, 2013

alexchristian

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I like Cal a lot but it was disheartening watching the hondas leave him on the straight. He pushes awfully hard and that leads to errors but much respect for doing that in the first place...would be interesting seeing him kitted out on a factory bike just to see what that little extra could give him

Back off the fence!

But I feel I'm been baited into this!

I agree 100%

If you don't push 100% how the fcuk are you supposed to find the limit?

Only by downing it do you know? am I correct?

Last year he hit the kitty litter more than I would have liked,

But he learned!

Lets judge him on this year!

And woe betide his ... if he don't fin 5th or above!

Each race

Giving only two below that.

I ain't Herve but that is what I expect.

Back on the fence

elitemafia · Apr 8, 2013

I think the problem with Crutchlow is that he doesn't have good race craft. He's always fast in qualifying, and was showing very good pace in the race, but it was like he barely tried to get around the 2 orange roadblocks. You could see every lap, he would lose out a lot on the straight, gain it all back halfway through the lap, then just sit on the rear wheel of the Repsol Honda's.

levigarrett · Apr 8, 2013

alexchristian

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I like Cal a lot but it was disheartening watching the hondas leave him on the straight. He pushes awfully hard and that leads to errors but much respect for doing that in the first place...would be interesting seeing him kitted out on a factory bike just to see what that little extra could give him

There are tracks where the Honda's acceleration advantage is somewhat muted. Cal will have his opportunities and if he gets some help in the way of new parts who knows? He mentioned in his post race presser (which was longer than most) that his team needed to reduce the power of the bike to finish with fuel and that doing so hurt his speed. Again, a somewhat shorter race distance without the long straights might be just what he needs provided he can race error free.

levigarrett · Apr 8, 2013

elitemafia

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I think the problem with Crutchlow is that he doesn't have good race craft. He's always fast in qualifying, and was showing very good pace in the race, but it was like he barely tried to get around the 2 orange roadblocks. You could see every lap, he would lose out a lot on the straight, gain it all back halfway through the lap, then just sit on the rear wheel of the Repsol Honda's.

Fortunately when Cal errors, he generally only hurts his own performance. He doesn't strike me as the reckless kinda guy. He may have been able to push one of the Honda's off the racing line but then what? More aggression needed? Perhaps but I don't think Cal is going to endanger anyone. His bike is inferior, there are limits and I think he finds them.

Jumkie · Apr 8, 2013

^ agree with most of this, but i think had he shown Pedros a wheel here and there maybe something gets created.

I've seen Cal make aggressive clean passes that stuck, i think maybe he held his pace looking for an opportunity, maybe trying to go for it in the last couple of laps. Then Rossi caught back up and screwed up his plan, rhythm and forced him into a mistake (or unforced mistake, makes little difference, same outcome). From the comfort of my chair i say, maybe just like Rossi forced the issue into a braking duel, maybe thats what he should have done with the Hondas ahead of him soon than later (if he intended to clear away). I think he had faster pace than Pedro. Again, maybe he was planning a last lap ditch effort, thinking if he didnt have the pace to get away from the Hondas, that at least he would only give them one chance to get past him on the straight to the line. If i was gonna argue his case, thats the line of reasoning i would take anyway.

king kong · Apr 8, 2013

Cal Crutchlow is a very interesting man.

He has the looks of a warrior, like those of He-Man,...Conan The Barbarian,..., ...with his strong muscular jawline.

However,...the sight of an old ageing Rossi showing up a wheel beside him, he trembled and panicked immediately running straight off the track.

Looks of a warrior, but heart of a little girl,...

BJ.C · Apr 8, 2013

thedeal

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Far more experienced and it showed last year if he does get some kit from the factory Cal will only get better.

Nailed it! Dovi has been on GP bikes since 2001, often times on a factory bike. Crutchlow has been on a GP bike since 2011... always on a satellite bike.

He has changed his riding style since last year - much smoother. Given a bit more power, he would have been hanging on to the podium chancers till the end. He over-rode his ride, he had no choice.

How about that Bradl? A full factory Honda and he managed... to bin it.

Dr No · Apr 8, 2013

"Cal Crutchlow is a very interesting man.

He has the looks of a warrior, like those of He-Man,...Conan The Barbarian,..., ...with his strong muscular jawline.

However,...the sight of an old ageing Rossi showing up a wheel beside him, he trembled and panicked immediately running straight off the track.

Looks of a warrior, but heart of a little girl,..."

Ah, I get it.

A Simian tryhard Cockoo, who enjoys thinking up homoerotic descriptions for motorcycle riders.

Lyria · Apr 8, 2013

lil red rocket pilot

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Back off the fence!

But I feel I'm been baited into this!

I agree 100%

If you don't push 100% how the fcuk are you supposed to find the limit?

Only by downing it do you know? am I correct?

Last year he hit the kitty litter more than I would have liked,

But he learned!

Lets judge him on this year!

And woe betide his ... if he don't fin 5th or above!

Each race

Giving only two below that.

I ain't Herve but that is what I expect.

Back on the fence

Got to agree, you have to fall over the edge to know where it is don't you?

I hope to see better things from him this year too, you can only forgive silly mistakes so often before it become a habit and not impressive.

Jumkie · Apr 8, 2013

king kong said:
Cal Crutchlow is a very interesting man.
He has the looks of a warrior, like those of He-Man,...Conan The Barbarian,..., ...with his strong muscular jawline.
However,...the sight of an old ageing Rossi showing up a wheel beside him, he trembled and panicked immediately running straight off the track.
Looks of a warrior, but heart of a little girl,...

King Dong, thank u for ur contribution to this thread. What are ur thoughts on Casey Stoner? Do u think he could win on a Tech3 Yamaha?

thedeal · Apr 9, 2013

BJ.C

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Nailed it! Dovi has been on GP bikes since 2001, often times on a factory bike. Crutchlow has been on a GP bike since 2011... always on a satellite bike.

He has changed his riding style since last year - much smoother. Given a bit more power, he would have been hanging on to the podium chancers till the end. He over-rode his ride, he had no choice.

How about that Bradl? A full factory Honda and he managed... to bin it.

100% correct

king kong · Apr 9, 2013

Jumkie

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King Dong, thank u for ur contribution to this thread. What are ur thoughts on Casey Stoner? Do u think he could win on a Tech3 Yamaha?

Honestly speaking, Stoner is expected to do better than Crutchlow. But how much better is anyone's guess.

It had been seen, when on a difficult beast like Ducati that needs a totally different riding style and confidence, Stoner does much better than anyone else.

But on Yamaha, which is friendly to anyone, I do not expect Stoner to blow Crutchlow away, but he should be consistently faster. Lets guess, maybe on average 2 seconds to 3 seconds gap in race distance? With Cal maybe able to challenge on occassions.

BJ.C · Apr 9, 2013

king kong

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But on Yamaha, which is friendly to anyone, I do not expect Stoner to blow Crutchlow away, but he should be consistently faster. Lets guess, maybe on average 2 seconds to 3 seconds gap in race distance? With Cal maybe able to challenge on occassions.

Respectfully, you're deluded. Put Cal and Stoner both on M1's and Stoner would be a corner ahead, if not more, by race end. And at no stage past lap 3 would Cal be in a position to challenge.

I like Cal, but you are comparing a rider with more than 15 years on GP-style bikes with a rider with 2 years. This year will be a defining one for Crutchlow. He has made significant changes to his smoothness over the winter, this should allow him to really get the feel for the bike and allow him to perfect his throttle hand.

Next year, given a decent ride, I expect he will be fighting it out up the front, but this year, on a 2012-spec bike, he will be in 5th all season, unless Bradl comes good.

thedeal · Apr 9, 2013

What the sceptics are forgetting is that Bradl has been in GPs since 2005 is a moto2 world champion, Bautista has been in GPs since 2004 and is a 125 world champion and has eight wins in 250,both have had and do have factory bikes and they are not as outright quick as Cal, Dovi has been in GPs since 2001 is a former 125 word champ has wins in 250 and Moto gp,he was on factory Hondas for 3 years and Cal beat him at times last year on eagual bikes, so Cal is still a learner and deserves a crack on a factory ride as the above guys did and i honestly think he would be a contender very soon, give the boy a break.

Big Jorge · Apr 9, 2013

skaface · Apr 9, 2013

levigarrett

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I've never been a Spies fan. Hardly, I'm a Haga guy. I don't really care what Spies does or doesn't, did or didn't do because I'm not a fan. Cal errors and DNF'S too much. Dovi beat Cal by 67 points last year on the SAME machine.

Is Dovi more talented than Cal?

Man, you' got me here. I am a massive Dovi fan and have been for years, just like my dear old mum. In GP race meetings that I have attended, home and abroad, Dovi is the second most winningest rider, second only to the whinger that departed last season. Lil Red, if you wondered why I picked #4 for your Simo pic, this is why. OK they didn't really get on, but I was most impressed with his tattoo after Marco left us.

Here I get back to my old argument, Superbike riders who have turned to GPs never have had the greatest race results (Hayden,Edwards,Bayliss,Hopkins,Vermuelen,Toseland, now Spies and Cal). Those I have mentioned that have won a race or three by enlarge got a fortunate break at the start of the race and were lucky enough to keep a gap. The most successful riders started in the bottom tier of GPs and have worked their way up in increasingly longer races, thus IMO greater experience and race craft.

So the answer to your question, Dovi is a better racer than Cal. I thought he deserved the Repsol seat and on the flipside was gutted for him when they gave him the flick. Regularly on the podium even though he wasn't the first in line for new parts. He finished within the top six in nearly every race last year on a satellite bike. Until recently, satellite bikes were rarely on the podium, admittedly now because of dwindling numbers of manufacturers on the grid and factory bikes.

xx CURVE xx · Apr 9, 2013

Britts can't ride.. eot :grin:

thedeal · Apr 9, 2013

xx CURVE xx

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Britts can't ride.. eot :grin:

even smith is going to beat the yanks how bad is that,,,,,,,,,,

Jumkie · Apr 9, 2013

xx CURVE xx

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Britts can't ride.. eot :grin:

I think I figured out Crutchlow's problem...

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MdubSTYLIE · Apr 9, 2013

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