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Burgess interview (on Stoner, Honda and the gearbox) / Casey Interview (on Honda, the move from Duca

There are still plenty of GP boards where its all Rossi all the time,thank god this is no longer one of them

Please direct me to them, I think my work is done here.
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Edit: wait wait, did you invoke the All Mighty?
 
Seems some owe Cang an apology...... !!!!

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Great read - regardless of your views on Stoner, Rossi, Ducati, Burgess etc.



After Ducati have put all their eggs in one basket, they may live to regret not placing a higher priority on keeping Stoner happy. Bottom line is that even until the end of the 2010 season, Stoner was still winning races and picking up podiums, on the same basic bike that everyone else is saying has real problems. Even Stoner says in the interview that there are some areas where the Duc is still better (although there are more areas where the Honda is better).



I can't help but think that really the Ducati does have the capability to be fast, even in its current state, and with Stoner on the current bike it might be a lot closer to the top, but I don't doubt Rossi's ability, and I am sure that in time he will conquer the beast and will become competative - however, both Rossi and Ducati might loose some skin between now and then, and I am sure Ducati will spend a .... load of money trying to build the bike that Rossi wants. How long will it be before Ducati agree to try to build a red M1.



Maybe Rossi is just getting a stone cold dose of Karma.

A bit of a reality check mighty actually do him good - unless he decides there is no chance to be competative, and then he might just spit the dummy and walk which would be a bad outcome for everyone.
 
Hi all,



For what its worth I just went to the local news agent while I was up the shops and there is indeed an article on Casey in the AMCN.



I really don't think someone would go to such lengths as writing a fake article to slag riders etc.



Cheers



Gecko
 
The stoner article seems to be a direct general interview with him, with the comments about nicky's and dani's riding styles part of a discussion about his own throttle control in the course of saying he doesn't rely on tc/electronics overly, an accusation which obviously still rankles. He does seem to be saying that he can ride corner speed style or slide, somewhat implying that neither dani nor nicky can do both though; I guess he is correct about dani not being in the habit of sliding the honda at least.



The two shorter articles directly quote valentino and jb, but the interviews and when they occurred and who they were conducted by are not sourced as far as I can see. Australian MCN is generally fairly reliable though, and even when they publish rumours these tend to be proven correct. The interesting thing for me in the rossi piece is that he says he is working with bridgestone to improve the ducati hard tyre; if they get something like the old ducati hard tyre back they may not need to do much else.
 
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Talpa labeled us ardent Stoner fans "boners" I think? I truly don't remember. Talps, can you provide some clarification for me?



I'd like to officially declare myself one now prior to tomorrows first practice session. I don't want to be accused of hitching a ride on the bandwagon, so to speak.



So, for posterities sake.........



I LeviGarrett due solemnly declare myself a "Boner" (sp)
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BTW,



Talpa labeled us ardent Stoner fans "boners" I think? I truly don't remember. Talps, can you provide some clarification for me?



I'd like to officially declare myself one now prior to tomorrows first practice session. I don't want to be accused of hitching a ride on the bandwagon, so to speak.



So, for posterities sake.........



I LeviGarrett due solemnly declare myself a "Boner" (sp)
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Well I'm first a Haydennette. But I'll jump on the Boner wagon if there is room.
 
The stoner article seems to be a direct general interview with him, with the comments about nicky's and dani's riding styles part of a discussion about his own throttle control in the course of saying he doesn't rely on tc/electronics overly, an accusation which obviously still rankles. He does seem to be saying that he can ride corner speed style or slide, somewhat implying that neither dani nor nicky can do both though; I guess he is correct about dani not being in the habit of sliding the honda at least.



The two shorter articles directly quote valentino and jb, but the interviews and when they occurred and who they were conducted by are not sourced as far as I can see. Australian MCN is generally fairly reliable though, and even when they publish rumours these tend to be proven correct. The interesting thing for me in the rossi piece is that he says he is working with bridgestone to improve the ducati hard tyre; if they get something like the old ducati hard tyre back they may not need to do much else.



I think he means by this comment that he is working to get the bike working with the Bridgestone hard tyre. My first read I read it as you did and took a 'take two' and re read it and changed my view on his meaning.
 
I think he means by this comment that he is working to get the bike working with the Bridgestone hard tyre. My first read I read it as you did and took a 'take two' and re read it and changed my view on his meaning.

I re-read it (bought the magazine) and I agree your interpretation is likely correct, that he is trying to adjust the bike to work better with the current tyre. As I recall casey mostly couldn't get the hard tyre to work last year despite it previously being his preference and involved in most of his wins, so if valentino manages this it may still be a big advance. He may also have been concentrating on this fairly exclusively in testing rather than going for fast times on the soft tyres.
 
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Its not Vietnam man. (Sound like you quoted Full Metal Jacket). Anyway buddy, its all good. I admire Rossi more than people think, certainly more than any Bopper will ever be able to see. Plus, its become a hobby of mine to give the boppers headaches.
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I love that smell of burning boppers in the morning. Smells like....victory.
 
Just checked mcnews.com.au and looks like I was wrong, it is not related to AMCN at all, so my mistake there guys. I read a review there a few years back that appeared to be the same as in AMCN, so I thought they were one and the same.



Pidg - no need to post the humble pie mate, in hindsight was probably a reasonable call to want to see the real articles, it's definitely quicker scanning them than typing.
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cang, if you wade thru the ........ on this forum, you'll find the hardcore fans that take their motorcycle racing seriously...welcome aboard btw!
 
agreed, but i'd like to differentiate between what is a smooth style (lorenzo) and 250 background as i think 250s background isn't automatically a smooth style. i think caseys words are a little bit misleading as pedrosa surely spins it a lot ( and except for that one year all he's ridden is 125s,250s and the 800s).



i think pedrosa is greatly underrated when it comes to sliding it out of the corner,many people think its just weight ,size and the honda engine but actually overlook how early he gets it straight to fire it out onto the straights. sure , from what i have seen he seems to not get it as sideways as other riders but i've got the impression that he's the king of keeping the slide as short as possible in favor of traction as opposed to no sliding at all





All these guys have the ability to slide the bike, I think it comes down to 'where' you slide that makes or breaks a fast lap.



Hayden would probably win it all if it was down to riding the entire race like a drifter and smoking the tire everywhere.



Remember the saying, "For a fast lap, go fast where you can and slow where you have to".



If say Pedrosa or Edwards do that kind of slide where the rear is only a few inches stepped out from the front, and it gives them better drive/traction, I'm not sure I understand how the really stepped out, speedway kind of slide fits in (assuming that's what Stoner is referring to when he talks about Nicky's style of sliding). I understand how that may have been useful in the 500cc era, but not in the 800cc era. Stoners comments on traction seem to go against this style, but he rides like this often.



If the speedway style makes it harder to get traction, how come Stoner (and Rossi to a lesser degree) were doing that alot at Phillip Island two years back? One of Stoner's slides looked nearly full lock. It looked great, but was he losing time to do this or was it actually good for the laptime? Not sure I understand this one.
 

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