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Johnny, I ain't gonna let you off the hook that easy.
Why do you want to bust my ..., you still sore about me schooling you on "alien" debate?
Anyway, thanks for your vote on this one, it helps your credibility.
Regardless, I hope you visit the Laguna thread, in the social board, to see what you missed out on. Yeah, yeah, I know you would have been a wreck had you partied with us, but its not like forcing you to take off your shirt and party with other girls would have made your race round up any less interesting.
Bostrom Laguna Wager
The following is the text exchange I had with JohnnyK regarding a little wager concerning Ben Bostrom. When I first learned he would wildcard, I immediately texted Johnny as I knew he would be thrilled with the announcement. He didn’t believe it until I sent him the link. At which point he said he would be “last”. Here is the exchange. Hahahaha!
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So, I figure I put it up to the forum. As you can see, the bet is whether or not Bostrom would be LAST or NOT. Regardless of what you think of Bostrom’s performance, the question I have for the forum is, ‘who won the bet?’
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Regarding picking Bostrom for a wildcard, first of all, peeps get on giving riders .... for not accepting a GP offer (I have), and now we are shitting on guys for taking a GP offer?!? Jesus, nobody can win! The argument could end there, but I’ll add…second, my two-cents piggybacking on Austin’s comments regarding why LCR would enlist Bostrom as a wildcard rider as follows. Austin made the case that he was enlisted for sponsorship reasons, but Austin didn’t make the case that Bostrom is no slouch. I’d rather make the case that it made not only ‘cents’, but ‘sense’ to give Bostrom the ride. For those hating on his performance (Tom, Pov, and JK, etc.), you need to understand that a GP is infinitely different than a Superbike. This was a one off ride, with him having zero previous experience on said bike, team, set-up, tires, etc. In his interview he mentions that his first practice the bike was crap, and had to learn how to make it turn, and by warm up he had it much better. Think about that for a moment, we have guys years on GP bikes, who don’t get the set-up right and suffer in the race for it. The only thing he knew was the track. That is tantamount to you being able to drive your family wagon, then somebody saying, ‘here, drive this F1 car around your neighborhood and so it fast enough to keep up with said competitors.’ Knowing the track means .... given the proposition. Now people have been shitting on Toni Elias, a proper GP rider and Moto2 World Champ in his own right, so I don’t think that LCR Honda was going to be competing for wins regardless if God himself was riding it.
So why pick Bostrom to have a go on a GP wildcard? Well its not like the teams can go out and get just anybody you peeps think is deserving. They can’t approach some Wsbk, BSB, AMA front-runner and say, hey, would you like a go? That takes a lot of riders out of the picture immediately. So they go with somebody available and somebody that can ride. Bostrom can ride. He has demonstrated in his career that he can ride and is willing to move domestic and international to take a seat. Something that not everybody is willing to do, just look up Mladin (if I had to make a case for ‘waste’, he would be at the top of my list, who actually dropped out of a Wsbk wildcard ‘before’ the race).
Bostrom is older, and that may be something that was a plus for LCR (besides the recognizable name). I’m sure LCR didn’t want some young lad wadding his leathers because he’s on a GP bike crashing in FP1 ending the entire event (remember, each only had one bike at Laguna). Bostrom has had success at Laguna, he’s won on domestic 1000cc and 600cc, and Wsbk. He won as recently as last year on a privateer Yamaha in the superbike class. And as much as the international community doesn’t rate the AMA, fact is the front-runners are not slow, with Bostrom in the mix regularly. I could list several Europeans who have tried their hand and struggled in the AMA, only to go back to Europe and have a bit of success. If age is the problem people have, well then, the young guns gotta beat the old men if they won their seat. Bostrom has schooled his young teammates more than a few times. Bostrom is a Superbike champ, Supersport champ, a Supermoto champ, and X-games champ, has come runner up several times in competitive series, and once third overall in Wsbk. So he has credentials to bring to the table. Not to mention that Michael Jordan wants a foot in the GP door. We should be thankful he and Suzuki submitted this wildcard.
Now regarding his performance at Laguna. First of all, according to the order of classification, he was NOT last. He is listed as 15th. And as Wilski said to me when I posed the question to him, “15 beats 16, every time!” And added, “I didn’t know there was a QNF, I’ve only heard of a DNF.” You can call him a “quitter” all you want, but you have to combine opinion with fact that he took the ride when asked (not everybody does this) and improving every practice, and even in the race. If you take a moment to listen to the interview, you will hear a guy who was nervous about the opportunity, and recognized it as one of a lifetime, but he’s human, and how many of us would have got sleep the night before your home GP debut? Most of us reading would have .... our pants with nervousness. If race lap times mean anything to you (and I’ve seen countless arguments use race lap in their debate) then you should know that Bostrom did NOT have the slowest lap time. Now he did run wide into a turn that the very best in the business have done so many times. I’d say if you were to compile a list of riders who have ran into the grave where Bostrom did, it would read as a who’s who list. It happens when you are trying to go fast! Which is ironic because this happens as a result of not being a quitter. He could have happily turned down his pace and ran comfortably at the back. And lets not forget, he actually passed his teammate for a few laps. These GP bikes, as technological as they are, seem rather fragile too. I remember Stoner running wide into that very same turn causing Hopkins to take evasive action making contact with Hayden. That little bump caused some electronic glitch on Nicky’s bike and was forced to run at the back. Bostrom went into the gravel and later reported some braking issue. The best in the business have done this, as recently as Cal Crutchlow and even Rossi himself pulled in once retiring because something seemed not right with the front end.
When interviewed, he was also forthcoming and humble. He said, “The bike was better than the rider.” He took responsibility. He also revealed a bit of his mindset, that he didn’t want to affect the real championship being contested in MotoGP. You can just imagine the fire and brimstone he would have got if he had been in the way of a front-runner. He also mentions in his radio interview that after running off, he got back in the race and ran off again experiencing braking problems (he even mentions his braking markers in the superbike race were better because his brakes were working). He mentioned he had trouble getting the bike stopped, and rather than risk crashing LCR’s valuable Honda (not to mention that crashing can end careers while we sit back and say the guy is soft for retiring in a race) or affecting the championship in some accident, he pulled in. The man took responsibility, blamed himself, felt like .... for not performing better, and mentioned that he couldn’t sleep the night before thinking about the race. My good friends, nothing about this says “quitter” to me boys.
Why do you want to bust my ..., you still sore about me schooling you on "alien" debate?
Anyway, thanks for your vote on this one, it helps your credibility.
Bostrom Laguna Wager
The following is the text exchange I had with JohnnyK regarding a little wager concerning Ben Bostrom. When I first learned he would wildcard, I immediately texted Johnny as I knew he would be thrilled with the announcement. He didn’t believe it until I sent him the link. At which point he said he would be “last”. Here is the exchange. Hahahaha!
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hoto-5.PNG]So, I figure I put it up to the forum. As you can see, the bet is whether or not Bostrom would be LAST or NOT. Regardless of what you think of Bostrom’s performance, the question I have for the forum is, ‘who won the bet?’
12481:Laguna 2011 classification race order.png]
Regarding picking Bostrom for a wildcard, first of all, peeps get on giving riders .... for not accepting a GP offer (I have), and now we are shitting on guys for taking a GP offer?!? Jesus, nobody can win! The argument could end there, but I’ll add…second, my two-cents piggybacking on Austin’s comments regarding why LCR would enlist Bostrom as a wildcard rider as follows. Austin made the case that he was enlisted for sponsorship reasons, but Austin didn’t make the case that Bostrom is no slouch. I’d rather make the case that it made not only ‘cents’, but ‘sense’ to give Bostrom the ride. For those hating on his performance (Tom, Pov, and JK, etc.), you need to understand that a GP is infinitely different than a Superbike. This was a one off ride, with him having zero previous experience on said bike, team, set-up, tires, etc. In his interview he mentions that his first practice the bike was crap, and had to learn how to make it turn, and by warm up he had it much better. Think about that for a moment, we have guys years on GP bikes, who don’t get the set-up right and suffer in the race for it. The only thing he knew was the track. That is tantamount to you being able to drive your family wagon, then somebody saying, ‘here, drive this F1 car around your neighborhood and so it fast enough to keep up with said competitors.’ Knowing the track means .... given the proposition. Now people have been shitting on Toni Elias, a proper GP rider and Moto2 World Champ in his own right, so I don’t think that LCR Honda was going to be competing for wins regardless if God himself was riding it.
So why pick Bostrom to have a go on a GP wildcard? Well its not like the teams can go out and get just anybody you peeps think is deserving. They can’t approach some Wsbk, BSB, AMA front-runner and say, hey, would you like a go? That takes a lot of riders out of the picture immediately. So they go with somebody available and somebody that can ride. Bostrom can ride. He has demonstrated in his career that he can ride and is willing to move domestic and international to take a seat. Something that not everybody is willing to do, just look up Mladin (if I had to make a case for ‘waste’, he would be at the top of my list, who actually dropped out of a Wsbk wildcard ‘before’ the race).
Bostrom is older, and that may be something that was a plus for LCR (besides the recognizable name). I’m sure LCR didn’t want some young lad wadding his leathers because he’s on a GP bike crashing in FP1 ending the entire event (remember, each only had one bike at Laguna). Bostrom has had success at Laguna, he’s won on domestic 1000cc and 600cc, and Wsbk. He won as recently as last year on a privateer Yamaha in the superbike class. And as much as the international community doesn’t rate the AMA, fact is the front-runners are not slow, with Bostrom in the mix regularly. I could list several Europeans who have tried their hand and struggled in the AMA, only to go back to Europe and have a bit of success. If age is the problem people have, well then, the young guns gotta beat the old men if they won their seat. Bostrom has schooled his young teammates more than a few times. Bostrom is a Superbike champ, Supersport champ, a Supermoto champ, and X-games champ, has come runner up several times in competitive series, and once third overall in Wsbk. So he has credentials to bring to the table. Not to mention that Michael Jordan wants a foot in the GP door. We should be thankful he and Suzuki submitted this wildcard.
Now regarding his performance at Laguna. First of all, according to the order of classification, he was NOT last. He is listed as 15th. And as Wilski said to me when I posed the question to him, “15 beats 16, every time!” And added, “I didn’t know there was a QNF, I’ve only heard of a DNF.” You can call him a “quitter” all you want, but you have to combine opinion with fact that he took the ride when asked (not everybody does this) and improving every practice, and even in the race. If you take a moment to listen to the interview, you will hear a guy who was nervous about the opportunity, and recognized it as one of a lifetime, but he’s human, and how many of us would have got sleep the night before your home GP debut? Most of us reading would have .... our pants with nervousness. If race lap times mean anything to you (and I’ve seen countless arguments use race lap in their debate) then you should know that Bostrom did NOT have the slowest lap time. Now he did run wide into a turn that the very best in the business have done so many times. I’d say if you were to compile a list of riders who have ran into the grave where Bostrom did, it would read as a who’s who list. It happens when you are trying to go fast! Which is ironic because this happens as a result of not being a quitter. He could have happily turned down his pace and ran comfortably at the back. And lets not forget, he actually passed his teammate for a few laps. These GP bikes, as technological as they are, seem rather fragile too. I remember Stoner running wide into that very same turn causing Hopkins to take evasive action making contact with Hayden. That little bump caused some electronic glitch on Nicky’s bike and was forced to run at the back. Bostrom went into the gravel and later reported some braking issue. The best in the business have done this, as recently as Cal Crutchlow and even Rossi himself pulled in once retiring because something seemed not right with the front end.
When interviewed, he was also forthcoming and humble. He said, “The bike was better than the rider.” He took responsibility. He also revealed a bit of his mindset, that he didn’t want to affect the real championship being contested in MotoGP. You can just imagine the fire and brimstone he would have got if he had been in the way of a front-runner. He also mentions in his radio interview that after running off, he got back in the race and ran off again experiencing braking problems (he even mentions his braking markers in the superbike race were better because his brakes were working). He mentioned he had trouble getting the bike stopped, and rather than risk crashing LCR’s valuable Honda (not to mention that crashing can end careers while we sit back and say the guy is soft for retiring in a race) or affecting the championship in some accident, he pulled in. The man took responsibility, blamed himself, felt like .... for not performing better, and mentioned that he couldn’t sleep the night before thinking about the race. My good friends, nothing about this says “quitter” to me boys.
