Best season of all time .... ?

MdubSTYLIE said:

I think the word you are actually looking for is the most dominate season, not the best season. The best season would imply that the races have never been better in any other season. And was that the case? no. And your argument that it was the most dominate was disproven on page one. There is 5 more points for a win and three more races a season. Not to mention everyone of his competitors had problems except him. Nothing dominate or best about that. Quite lame actually. But I guess when you are old and senile trying to remember anything things from more than a couple hours can be difficult.

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Full points for posting proof you are as thick as two bricks



1. The word you are looking for is dominant, not dominate. Which made your post ridiculous to read.



2. All you have done is interpret the thread title and my reason for posting it .

Its a question open for discussion, in the hope of identifying those "extraneous" inputs as to whether a season has been dominant or not.

Your argument that every one of his competitiors "had problems" is idiotic as it can just as easily be applied to every competitor in every season. The fact remains that they had their problems trying to keep up with Lorenzo ( with the possible exception of Pedrosa, who had a purported equipment failure )

I have seen nothing that disproves whether or not it has been the "best/most dominant/whatever", all you have to see is a picture of Rossi's arse and you are happy, but it takes something different to prove or disprove what the season was to me.



The question still remains ....... the "other competitors" this year ......... if they are that good, then surely it makes Lorenzo's achievement even more "dominant" or "better". Perhaps given the competition, and what competing against him caused them to do, Lorenzo's season can be seen as good as Doohans?

xx CURVE xx said:

hey dumby... "fans"of motorcycle racing judge a season by the racing not the points.

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WTF does this idiotic statement have to do with it You wouldn't know what good racing was The only good race to you has Rossi at front



You are a waste of couch space mate

MdubSTYLIE said:

2007 Mr. Win it or bin it and the Duc. That was dominating. There was nothing any of his compititors could have done to stop him. There were no if, ands, buts, or what if's about that season. But it wasnt the best season.

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It was to the Stoner fans and many others, and to the pundits, and by the alltime best scores at the time as well. Just not to the Rossi Boppers like you



Another idiotic post, is Rog. tutoring you

Motoshrink said:

I smell what you folks are cookin' ... but even if 99 does bust out enough pts to best Rossi's record, might you still end up with "yeah, but only because Rossi was injured riding dirt bikes" or "yeah but only because he had Rossi's development on the bike" etc etc? #'s only seem to tell part of the story I suppose.

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wtf??

you registered only a few hours ago here and already know about us "folks" ? Then i have to tell you STFU, untill i come up with that statement.

I just wrote my view about a best season, and Horhay's season and records, then you come up with that acusation?

Tom said:

It's not really that black and white.

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yes... it is

BarryMachine said:

WTF does this idiotic statement have to do with it

You wouldn't know what good racing was

The only good race to you has Rossi at front

You are a waste of couch space mate

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it means YOU and YOUR cronies dont know ...... according to you all if a rider scores 10000 points over 2nd place thats the best season ever.. stop trying to back-in your couch Nancy

rossiofsky said:

wtf??

you registered only a few hours ago here and already know about us "folks" ? Then i have to tell you STFU, untill i come with that statement.

I just wrote my view about a best season, and Horhay's season and records, then you come up with that acusation?

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We could "see the way the cookies were baked" with you from your first post ........ why is it so amazing that this guy has idientified the same at his first exposure to you .....



Some folk wear their hearts on their sleeves, you wear a neon saying "I love Rossi" ...... surely now you aren't implying you are some unbiased fair minded debater are you ?

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yes... it is







it means YOU and YOUR cronies dont know ...... according to you all if a rider scores 10000 points over 2nd place thats the best season ever.. stop trying to back-in your couch Nancy

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Wah wah wah ..... pretty sure I can't, nor have I ever, "backed in" a couch ..... I'll admit to that

BarryMachine said:

..... pretty sure I can't, nor have never, "backed in a couch" ..... I'll admit that I dont know .... about what is a good season cause i just started following motogp in 2007 when an aussy was doing well.

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fixed it for ya



http://i544.photobucket.com/albums/hh332/Xframing_hanleyX/..........jpg

Oh yeah sure ....... I can really see Spies doing that ......... you really are a deluded ...... Kev. ....

rossiofsky said:

wtf??

you registered only a few hours ago here and already know about us "folks" ? Then i have to tell you STFU, untill i come up with that statement.

I just wrote my view about a best season, and Horhay's season and records, then you come up with that acusation?

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You are not very smart, so let me school you. People lurk here for a long time. That means they can read your posts without being members. And guess what, it doesn't take that long to know a guy named Rossiofsky is a lame one trick pony.

Tom said:

That position basically eliminates the concept of dominating a championship completely. If there is nothing dominant about winnning a season when the others struggle, and there is obviously nothing dominant about winning the title by a tiny margin when the runner up gets it almost as right as the winner, how can anyone ever have dominated any season.

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Tom said:

It's not really that black and white. Both have to be considerd, the relative value of the facts and numbers over the unquantifiable elements is up to the person forming the opinion

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Good points, unfortunately, as you can see from this thread, almost impossible to debate here without the usual noise. Again, it was a fair premise, though the usual suspects tried to immediately shoot it down. Even the numbers are difficult to compare across seasons (though you have tried assigning % to bridge this disparity). Then, to consider the value of the facts, well this is near impossible because people have differing viewpoints and worse, knowledge of the reality of the seasons themselves. Throw in the all-important bias, and we got nothing to agree on.



“Best” is really an impossible question to answer with any degree of consensus. Personally, I would give the nod to the 92 season and the 06 seasons, as the “best” in some time. Without going into detail, from event to event, it offered up more battles both on the track and in the championship points, the drama of the participants ebb and flow was fantastic, with great swings of fortunes, and the title went down to basically a season finale one race shoot out.



This thread was obviously a bit premature, since Lorenzo having a DNF at Estoril or Valencia would changed the opinion dramatically, but if he podiums at Valencia, then I think its fair to consider this season among one of the most ‘dominant’.

BarryMachine said:

The question still remains ....... the "other competitors" this year ......... if they are that good, then surely it makes Lorenzo's achievement even more "dominant" or "better". Perhaps given the competition, and what competing against him caused them to do, Lorenzo's season can be seen as good as Doohans?

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I think this is a legitimate thread as you know, but don't get your hopes up with this point. I mean everyone agrees the facts and figures aren't everything (as impressive as they are) so other things need to be considered. Now a few people are more keen to point this out than others, but because of where their loyalties lie they wont be keen to acknowledge that Lorenzo's impressive domination has happened over 3 other world champions, and as the team mate of none other than Valentino Rossi, making Jorge's accomplishments yet more impressive. All in all i think Doohans 97 season is the best of the modern era, but Lorenzo's is up there with the best of the 4 stroke era

BarryMachine said:

We could "see the way the cookies were baked" with you from your first post ........ why is it so amazing that this guy has idientified the same at his first exposure to you .....

Some folk wear their hearts on their sleeves, you wear a neon saying "I love Rossi" ...... surely now you aren't implying you are some unbiased fair minded debater are you ?

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My comments are Surely bias towards Rossi, but i,m 100% sure that i,m more fair about other rider's than you are.

As i knew your intentions of making such a thread, i began the way i did, and i still have been fair to Lorenzo. It's you that is in a hurry to name a season with a lot of boring races the Best ever. Did you do the same when Rossi scored the most points in 2008? Did you name that season the best ever?



in your opinion, Rossi fans are only happy when Rossi is leading while you admited a few times that you like it a lot to see your favorite rider run away with a race.



I think our comments in all threads talk for themselves, and show which one of us (me or you) is more biased and also Hating other's and most importantly they show who is a more die hard fan of an specifiek rider and appreciate other riders.

now tell me between you and me who is the boperest, and who goes to coma for a dnf of his favorite?

I Surely remember in this year whenever Casey had a crash/dnf, it took you more than 24 hours before you show up again.



For your and everybody elses records, I,m a fan boy and i,m proud of it.

and i dont feel any need to hide my feelings, like you or Jumkie or any other "Real fans" .



I remember you said in a few gp's ago "you only were praying for Casey to not crash and were very happy that he didn't, what about this time?? Do you pray for him in a church or...?

I know i,m the only fan boy here.

Jumkie said:

You are not very smart, so let me school you.

People lurk here for a long time. That means they can read your posts without being members. And guess what, it doesn't take that long to know a guy named Rossiofsky is a lame one trick pony.

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Please do so, as you do often, Mr Garrison!!



If those people have taken time to read my posts, then they have to add At least one of those negative posts, otherwise they better to stfu.



For your information and the new member, i always support the sports records, and INFACT it were you hater's who denied those records and said theyr just number's. (untill Horhay became a candidate for a new record)

now you tell the new guy how much you care and respect the sport's records. Oops i forgot i just spoiled it for him.



Mr Garrison come and tell us about those times that you respected and supported Rossi records, when you never denied those by a lame statement like "those are only number's" . Remembered anything yet?

rossiofsky said:

"those are only number's" .

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The only number I'm interested at the moment is your age and IQ. Both very small.

BarryMachine said:

Full points for posting proof you are as thick as two bricks

1. The word you are looking for is dominant, not dominate. Which made your post ridiculous to read.



2. All you have done is interpret the thread title and my reason for posting it

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Its a question open for discussion, in the hope of identifying those "extraneous" inputs as to whether a season has been dominant or not.

Your argument that every one of his competitiors "had problems" is idiotic as it can just as easily be applied to every competitor in every season. The fact remains that they had their problems trying to keep up with Lorenzo ( with the possible exception of Pedrosa, who had a purported equipment failure )

I have seen nothing that disproves whether or not it has been the "best/most dominant/whatever", all you have to see is a picture of Rossi's arse and you are happy, but it takes something different to prove or disprove what the season was to me.



The question still remains ....... the "other competitors" this year ......... if they are that good, then surely it makes Lorenzo's achievement even more "dominant" or "better". Perhaps given the competition, and what competing against him caused them to do, Lorenzo's season can be seen as good as Doohans?

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1. Once again pointing out grammar errors only proves you dont disagree.



2. Well if Lorenzo wins Estoril he only needs 15 points to take it out numerically. This is the your very first line in the thread old timer. I have interpretted exectly what you intend.......until that was disproven. Your just being a difficult as usual.

BarryMachine said:

It was to the Stoner fans and many others, and to the pundits, and by the alltime best scores at the time as well. Just not to the Rossi Boppers like you

Another idiotic post, is Rog. tutoring you

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My point exactly "best" is a matter of opinion.

i win!

Jumkie said:

Good points, unfortunately, as you can see from this thread, almost impossible to debate here without the usual noise. Again, it was a fair premise, though the usual suspects tried to immediately shoot it down. Even the numbers are difficult to compare across seasons (though you have tried assigning % to bridge this disparity). Then, to consider the value of the facts, well this is near impossible because people have differing viewpoints and worse, knowledge of the reality of the seasons themselves. Throw in the all-important bias, and we got nothing to agree on.



“Best” is really an impossible question to answer with any degree of consensus. Personally, I would give the nod to the 92 season and the 06 seasons, as the “best” in some time. Without going into detail, from event to event, it offered up more battles both on the track and in the championship points, the drama of the participants ebb and flow was fantastic, with great swings of fortunes, and the title went down to basically a season finale one race shoot out.



This thread was obviously a bit premature, since Lorenzo having a DNF at Estoril or Valencia would changed the opinion dramatically, but if he podiums at Valencia, then I think its fair to consider this season among one of the most ‘dominant’.

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Thats what I am talking about! I couldnt agree more, 06 is the best season I have witnessed. When they come down to the line like that, thats what makes them "best". IMO

MdubSTYLIE said:

Thats what I am talking about! I couldnt agree more, 06 is the best season I have witnessed. When they come down to the line like that, thats what makes them "best". IMO

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If you ever get a chance, rent the 92 season review. You're gonna be a fan of that season as well.