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Bautista To Take Pedrosa's Seat In 2010?

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From MotoGPMatters.com: http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/2009/02/...at_in_2010.html

For three years now, Dani Pedrosa has been Spain's Great White Hope, and the man that they have placed their hopes on to take only the second MotoGP championship for the country which is obsessed with the sport. And for the past three years, the hope that springs in Iberian hearts has been cruelly dashed, as Pedrosa has confirmed his status as a brilliantly talented rider who finds it immensely difficult to consistently win races.

There have been very good reasons that Pedrosa's ambitions have been thwarted: 2006 was his rookie season, and expecting a title that early is too much to ask; in 2007, the Spaniard faced an incredible Casey Stoner with a severely underdeveloped Honda RC212V; then last year, Pedrosa had to face one of the greatest riders of all time as he rode one of his finest seasons of all time. All entirely understandable, and no one can underestimate the size of the task he has ahead if he is to take the title in 2009.

But it appears that it is not just the Spanish MotoGP fans who are growing tired of waiting. More worryingly, Pedrosa's employer is starting to lose patience with the Spaniard as well. There had been paddock rumors that Pedrosa's position was no longer set in granite as early as the middle of last year. And these rumors started to gain ground after HRC signed the talented Italian Andrea Dovizioso as Pedrosa's team mate, against the express wishes of Alberto Puig.

And Pedrosa's problems seem to be growing. The incredibly well-informed Italian site GPOne.com is reporting that 2009 will be a make-or-break year for Pedrosa, and his final chance to win the championship. Both HRC and their Spanish sponsor Repsol are losing patience with Pedrosa's lack of results, wanting to see a better return on their investment in the talented Spaniard. In addition, HRC is keen to ditch Pedrosa's manager Alberto Puig, whose Machiavellian tactics are felt to be undermining Honda's authority. Repsol, meanwhile, is growing disenchanted with Pedrosa's unsmiling demeanor, which is less than helpful for sponsorship purposes.

So HRC and Repsol are looking to another Spanish prodigy to take Pedrosa's place, should he fail to take the title this season, in the shape of Alvaro Bautista. The Man From La Mancha is a lively and lovable character, with a proven record of winning. Bautista would be a huge boon to Repsol, and comes free of the baggage associated with a Svengali-like manager.

So far, this is all just rumor and speculation. But with GPOne.com citing "sources in Spain" for their story, and a general background rumbling of discontent with Pedrosa, there could be quite a lot of substance to this story. As incredible as it may seem for HRC to drop the man likely to be top Honda rider this year and certain to take 3rd in the championship at the very least, it is still very firmly within the realms of the possible.
 
Bautista, if he can keep things going smooth all year, I believe has an excellent chance of taking the 250cc championship in '09. Even if he is runner up he will be a hot commodity. Repsol seem quite keen on keeping a Spanish rider and Bautista is a much more affable fellow then Pedro. Couple with this the obvious souring tactics of Puig and I can see Pedrosa being booted from the factory squad. Not to mention the great potential that Dovi has to upstage his new teammate, hence why Puig was so adamant against them signing him. I openly admit I dislike Pedrosa and would be happy to see his prima donna attitude squashed by being let go.
 
I very much believe that Repsol and Honda are losing patience with Pedrosa but I am less inclined to believe that Bautista is the man to replace him. Like I've said before, I'm not the most avid follower of 125/250 so maybe I'm off base. But wasn't Bautista quite slow in coming into form before he won his title? And hasn't he struggled some in coming to grips with the 250? I like him as much as anyone can like a rider in a series you don't follow terribly closely, I just wonder if he has the pedigree for the Repsol ride. Especially if he doesn't win the title.

I would think Simoncelli, although not Spanish, would be high on their wish list as well as Lorenzo as I believe his contract runs out after this season, no? Or does it run through 2010?
 
Get rid of the only rider capable of winning on the joke they call the RC212V? and replace him with the biggest psychological train wreck in motorcycle racing today?

I'm not a fan of Pedrosa, but he's given Honda ALL of their wins in the 800cc era. Replacing Pedrosa with a joker like Bautista is a bad idea.

Bautista is like Sete Gibernau and Max Biaggi combined.
 
I have full confidence Puig will be an ... clown again for another season and Pedrosa will not take the championship. That's four years without success and putting up with a sour face rider and an pushy manager. All someone has to do is watch a race with Pedrosa and realize he doesn't have any fight in him to win a race that he hasn't already checked out on. What would you do as HRC, give him a 5th chance to win the title? I wouldn't say Bautista is ideal, but he certainly has talent and speed and shows he can bash fairings and fight for a win. True he had a rough start to the season last year, but finished strongly and he will have this year to prove his ability. Potential is always there, who would have picked Stoner to be world champ after his mixed bag 2006 season. If there is any truth to Repsol having some requirement of having a Spanish rider for PR reasons, Pedrosa is let go, and Lorenzo isn't available, then Bautista (especially if he has a good 250 season) I would think would be a serious consideration.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Feb 11 2009, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I openly admit I dislike Pedrosa and would be happy to see his prima donna attitude squashed by being let go.
i am starting to feel sorry for pedrosa....
ik know he isnt that cool and stuff, but he hasnt been that much of an ... that i can remember.
its more puig and his ...... up mouth that spoils everything for the kid...

i think its unfair to point a finger at someone that hasnt said .... himself. but others (puig) started saying stuff 'in his name'...

p.s.: puig, i know you read this forum, be a man and submit that you are alberto puig aka pinky
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bootsakah @ Feb 11 2009, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>As incredible as it may seem for HRC to drop the man likely to be top Honda rider this year and certain to take 3rd in the championship at the very least, it is still very firmly within the realms of the possible.That's a strange way of stating things. Certain seems way too strong of a word, but if I was going to use it at all I'd swap it with likely. There are certainly more than 2 other riders in the series with a very realistic chance to finish in the top 3 if things go well for them. At the very least every rider that finished in the top four last season can certainly compete. It's not like I'm going out on a limb and projecting Hayden to contend on the Duc or Dovi to immediately start beating his teammate - I'm taking the defending champ with a legit claim to GOAT status, the 2007 champ who's shown the greatest pure pace on the grid for 2 seasons now, and the rider who started his first 3 races from pole and ended up with a victory and two additional podiums in them. The top of the field is a tad too strong to gift Pedrosa a "certain" 3rd.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 12 2009, 08:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>i am starting to feel sorry for pedrosa....
ik know he isnt that cool and stuff, but he hasnt been that much of an ... that i can remember.
its more puig and his ...... up mouth that spoils everything for the kid...

i think its unfair to point a finger at someone that hasnt said .... himself. but others (puig) started saying stuff 'in his name'...

p.s.: puig, i know you read this forum, be a man and submit that you are alberto puig aka pinky
I used to feel this way about Pedrosa, but he's got to grow up and be a man. If he's going to go anywhere he's got to get away from Puig - something he doesn't seem capable of. If he doesn't win this season, and I'm pretty sure he won't, then HRC should start looking elsewhere. If that's Bautista, then so be it.
I know why Repsol want a Spanish rider, but there are plenty of other talented riders they should be looking at. It's not like they absolutely must have a Spanish rider.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Son of Doohan @ Feb 12 2009, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>I used to feel this way about Pedrosa, but he's got to grow up and be a man. If he's going to go anywhere he's got to get away from Puig - something he doesn't seem capable of. If he doesn't win this season, and I'm pretty sure he won't, then HRC should start looking elsewhere. If that's Bautista, then so be it.
I know why Repsol want a Spanish rider, but there are plenty of other talented riders they should be looking at. It's not like they absolutely must have a Spanish rider.
then pedrosa will be the first repsol rider since rossi who hasnt won the championship in the repsol honda
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btw, the only two really fast spanish rider out there are pedrosa and lorenzo... unless bautista is dominating this coming season, he wont be chosen...

EDIT: repsol honda's a ..... btw >.<
 
Did this story make everybody smile as it did me?

Hahahahaha.

Ah, a bit of vindication I think for Hayden. He kept his mouth shut and behaved like a professional. His fans sounded the alarm that all was not well on that team, but the Nicky haters thought it was just excuse making.

Well I for one would like to see than midget go. Let me say that none of use doubt the half-man's talent, I get that he is fast; but, you have to deliver or shut up. The clown and his pedafile associate could shut up and that's what they have become known for now. I found the line that Puig was not happy with the signing of Dovi to be hilarious. I said it before I had even read this that I'm sure Puig wouldn't be happy with HRC singing a great talent rider with some actual European clout, and it seems I was right. There is no way the Italian fans and braintrust, with their king knowledge and enthusiasm of the sport were gonna allow for some little Spaniard to undermine Dovi. And it seems, based on the test so far that it will prove a very difficult task for Peders to beat his teammate who will demand fair treatment (something that Hayden lacked IMHO).

Even the ....... at HRC have realized they have bent over backwards for this half-pint by pressuring a rules change to a pocket bike, building a bike around him (even after they won the title with another man) including getting the help by Dorna to make a mid season tire change, and all the rest of it.

Stupid HRC may now realize (though I doubt it) that they wasted away two valuable years trying to accommodate Peder/Puig to no avail. The #2 plate isn't the goal, nor is the #3 plate genius. Puig showed his ... when he came out with that public soap opera school-yard tirade calling out Hayden, and it seems it was a bit like spitting in the wind. Hahaha.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 11 2009, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>p.s.: puig, i know you read this forum, be a man and submit that you are alberto puig aka pinky
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 11 2009, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>then pedrosa will be the first repsol rider since rossi who hasnt won the championship in the repsol hondaWhat about the last number 3 repsol? Barros rode Repsol after Rossi left as well.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mattsteg @ Feb 12 2009, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>What about the last number 3 repsol? Barros rode Repsol after Rossi left as well.
Didn't Bautista break his collar bone just recently?
Plus, he's riding Aprillias now. He'd probably move to Aspar-Ilmor!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (xx CURVE xx @ Feb 12 2009, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>.... Pedro.....Feed'm to the wolves.....send him to us in WSBK
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you get alberto puig for free with the package
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Slide @ Feb 11 2009, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><div class='quotemain'>im talking about repsols wonderboys ^^
K. That makes more sense but I was a bit confused. I couldn't help but leap at the chance to link Pedrosa with Biaggi, either.
 
As others have said in this thread, I am not convinced bautista is up to it. He is certainly not as good as pedrosa. Lorenzo may be the man, unless rossi retires.

I presume this at least means honda are staying in motogp.
 
I Love this, it just shows how self destructing some one can be. Pedrosa has had everything handed to him and has always come up a day late and a dollar short, and has lost the respect of most of the fans due to his ...... attitude and the stupidity of his manager. He made his bed now he must lay in it ( most likely nude with Puig). I doubt Lorenzo would want to move to repsol even though he would be a perfect fit for them, a lot of the spanish fans choose Pedrosa over Him anyway. He has a good thing going over at Yamaha and i think he has a legimit chance to be the world champ next year if he keeps it on 2 wheels. Then he would be the great heroe of Spain im sure pedrosa and Puig would love that. I do believe Puig is "Pinky" because the name is very sutting because Pink means ..... and Puig is the biggest one out there.
 
Pedrosa could have a good year. Last year the bike didn't even have a modern valve train so there was no way he could compete evenly. He has been on a pretty .... machine for 2 years.