Assen - 2022

Segfault said:

My point was punishing for unintentional events in racing is fundamentally wrong. This is racing, many young men racing closely together, everybody wants to go faster. Accidents do happen, people make mistakes, often the fraction of a second is not enough to make a correct decision.
Therefore I recite, this penal system is not suitable for racing. For instance, the points system is much better. Offender gets points on his license and when the limit is exceeded a penalty is handed out. Points would be awarded according to seriousness of event. But no single accident should result in a penalty as it is now.

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I agree with your first statement, especially for two wheeled racing. None of the riders wish to crash out of the race. All wish for a decent result and the only hope of doing so is through not crashing. So no crash is intentional, although I would never say never and that a rider could be deemed over the limit in how they ride, inviting incidents in the process. These riders will typically be repeat offenders. We have FQ who rarely crashes and therefore, IMO, shouldn't have been penalised. He already ended up with no points because of his mistake and that's the last thing he would have wanted.

OTOH, with 4 wheeled racing there can easily be incidents where there is contact, taking one competitor out of the race while the other continues on to win or enjoy an advantage. Irresponsible/dirty driving or overly ambitious lunges are far more common, hence the penalty system that pertains in these categories, F1 being a particular example of this.

Segfault said:

My point was punishing for unintentional events in racing is fundamentally wrong. This is racing, many young men racing closely together, everybody wants to go faster. Accidents do happen, people make mistakes, often the fraction of a second is not enough to make a correct decision.
Therefore I recite, this penal system is not suitable for racing. For instance, the points system is much better. Offender gets points on his license and when the limit is exceeded a penalty is handed out. Points would be awarded according to seriousness of event. But no single accident should result in a penalty as it is now.

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But, what of consistent unintentional?

I mean, no rider will intend to crash yet we see it. So to crash is unintentional, absolutely.

And I suspect that few riders who have ever crashed have wanted or tried or hoped to take out other riders, but we see it, all unintentional.

However, we also see many riders who continue to crash unintentionally and sometimes these same riders continue to take out others or sometimes the nature of the crash is similar.

Really to me, if a rider keeps crashing and/or taking out others (and this could include bumping others to gain advantage), that is an issue and needs to be penalised.

Yes, a points cumulative penalty is one way but that then also has the aspect that we could see riders who cause issues basically going unpunished as a point or so as we have seen in years past is not enough of a deterrent

Current system does not guarantee fair treatment of riders. The judgment of stewards is final, there is no due process, the accused cannot defend themselves. This is asking for corruption, and corrupt this Spencer is. Despite all glory as a rider he is a crook as a judge. I remember too well the Zarco vs. Morbidelli case. It was decided before hearing, influential friends took care of that. A few facts which leaked out to the public were sufficient to see the blatant miscarriage of justice. First, generally it is the rider behind who must take care of safety. But OK, lets forget that for a moment. Morbidelli stated he was already on brakes when Zarco passed. Then it is impossible for him to hit the bike in front of him which moves faster and started braking later than him! In hearing Morbidelli was not questioned at all and his telemetry was not looked at. Zarco was given no opportunity to request an investigation, including telemetry. It is quite easy to reconstruct what actually happened. Morbidelli as a rookie was inexperienced, he made a mistake on brakes. When he saw Zarco blasting by he thought he himself started braking too early and "corrected" it by easing off on brakes. With intent to keep as close to Zarco as possible and then maybe retaliate right away. This was his rookie mistake, at these speeds he should have stayed on brakes hard because when he did his "correction" then Zarco was already on brakes as hard as he could. There is no other possible explanation to this accident. Looking at telemetry would have shown it ... that's why they did not look at it.
Once crooked always crooked. As I said, the current system creates corruption.