A theoretical question on the Yamaha seat
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You won't get massive odds on him retiring then, his contract is up.
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Okay I'm going to go further back in the season and say it was Lorenzo who first came out with disrespect for VR last season thus starting the bad feelings.
Rossi hits back at Lorenzo; It's war
Not defending Rossi here, just pointing out that Lorenzo had also been sticking the verbal boot in too. I'm hoping you also see that for what it is, same stuff that Rossi gets rapped for all the time.
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There was nothing disrespectful towards Rossi in Lorenzo's comments Dani, he said two things.
1 being the data sharing was in his mind one sided. True.
2 being bad luck cost him the Japanese gp. True. He mastered the wet and put about a second a lap into everyone and built a big lead, only for the weather to dry up and shred his tyre.
There was no smartness from Vale or Dani that day, simply luck as their tyres hadn't been pushed as much as neither were willing to push in the wet like Lorenzo did that day.
You are defending Rossi but in this case you're wrong.
1 being the data sharing was in his mind one sided. True.
2 being bad luck cost him the Japanese gp. True. He mastered the wet and put about a second a lap into everyone and built a big lead, only for the weather to dry up and shred his tyre.
There was no smartness from Vale or Dani that day, simply luck as their tyres hadn't been pushed as much as neither were willing to push in the wet like Lorenzo did that day.
You are defending Rossi but in this case you're wrong.
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Wrong, read my post, it does say I'm NOT defending Rossi, I'm pointing out the double standards employed by some, it's ok for one but not the other.
Also it was said back in the day that Hayden's championship was luck, which is wrong, so was Jorge's statement.
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Here's Lorenzo's quote...
Disrespectful?
You should read more carefully.
It was the media and Rossi trying to create a story out of a non-story.
He was the fastest rider in 2015, his 7 race wins were flag to flag. There's no doubt his bike was good as the M1 last year was a better bike than the RCV overall.
There's no double standard, there's only those who want to believe it.
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Well, being the fastest means winning: if it means something more abstract based on datas, fine, but then it's worthless. Lorenzo's pace has gained meaning last year after he was crowned champion, not before. If Rossi had won it, something which afterall has come very close to being reality, his consistency/adaptability would have been much more meaningful than Lorenzo's pace. Now, leaving all controversy aside (hopefully forever, both from Rossi lovers and haters), since Lorenzo won in 2015, we can say his pace was the defining factor of the championship.
Moral of the story is: data-based overall superior speed doesn't always mean you're the better rider. And Lorenzo has this thing where often when he loses he has to remark it to downgrade other riders (often Rossi's) performance. As much as I think reasonable Rossi fans should understand why a lot of people here have a lot of things against 46, reasonable Rossi "haters" here should understand why such repeated post-race remarks from Lorenzo are perceived as dull. They are dull, just like Rossi's "golden prince" attitude sometimes is kinda dull.
Moral of the story is: data-based overall superior speed doesn't always mean you're the better rider. And Lorenzo has this thing where often when he loses he has to remark it to downgrade other riders (often Rossi's) performance. As much as I think reasonable Rossi fans should understand why a lot of people here have a lot of things against 46, reasonable Rossi "haters" here should understand why such repeated post-race remarks from Lorenzo are perceived as dull. They are dull, just like Rossi's "golden prince" attitude sometimes is kinda dull.
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So everything about Rossi is a story and everything about Lorenzo is a non story ?
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I think the trouble is Daniboy, is that Rossi's Modus operandi for a long time has been to subliminally give out messages and take digs at his rivals, so when you have form it is common for people to think that way.
Lorenzo has by no means never courted contreversy with his comments, but things Rossi says like "It takes balls to ride for Ducati, so I think Lorenzo will stay with Yamaha" are a direct insult towards Lorenzo.
Lorenzo has by no means never courted contreversy with his comments, but things Rossi says like "It takes balls to ride for Ducati, so I think Lorenzo will stay with Yamaha" are a direct insult towards Lorenzo.
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Who the hell even said that?
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Why is it that since Rossi came to Motogp, he has made "enemies " out of all fast riders/championship contenders while others have not? Other riders might have little spats here and there due to on track incidents but all were forgotten and good after, mostly. No continued bad bloods between each others like Rossi with biaggi, stoner, Marquez and Lorenzo. Is that because others are .... and Rossi is mother Teresa? Or other riders are just jealous of Rossi success?
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What I want to know is why do members of superior intelligence, with realistic takes on racing, waste their time trying to talk logic and facts to Boppers who are cloaked in denial and cognitive dissonance and general knuckle-dragging stupidity? It's like trying to get Trump supporters to see the benefit of voting for Bernie Sanders. It's an exercise in futility. Y'know, just sayin'.
"What I want to know is why do members of superior intelligence, with realistic takes on racing, waste their time trying to talk logic and facts to Boppers who are cloaked in denial and cognitive dissonance and general knuckle-dragging stupidity?"
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Rossi accuses Marquez of cheating: true.
Rossi accuses Lorenzo of disrespect: true.
No need to check for reality, if Rossi said it, well it's true.
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Why quote me and then quote Kesh, he was quoting some other post that didn't refer to me! Unless you're trying to join the ranks of the super intelligent?
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Because you're making stupid ....... unintelligent posts, that's why.
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Haha I actually work for Freedom (infrastructure services) therefore I am a slave! Woop woop !!!! Not only have I read it, it was said by Lorenzo in one of his post race interviews that I HEARD .
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And all yours are brilliant? Too one sided for starters.
