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A theoretical question on the Yamaha seat
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Kettle pot black .
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Nah bro, not that long. Just about 6.You said it. Extending over nine seasons.
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Not at all.
I already proved you were wrong, and then on top of that showed who landed the first blow in the VR/JL saga.
Not my fault you don't get it.
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Rider x pushed too hard at the beginning of the race and wore his tyres out. Then bemoaned his bad luck after the race.
Rider y rode a normal race and towards the end his rear tyre delaminated, forcing a retirement. Then bemoaned his bad luck after the race.
True statements that look much different to your slant on it.
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You proved you were right to yourself, you have a right to do that, I have a right to believe what I do. That's the nature of discussion, there's no need to resort to name calling is there?
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You have no idea how the logic thing works.
Being unable to understand logic is not a valid defense of what was originally a completely, moronic, position.
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You have no clue do you? Your only recourse is to try and discredit whoever you are having difficulty indoctrinating, I've seen it time and time again and it gets very old very quickly.
See that's your problem right there: you "believe".
It's a substitute for understanding that requires much less effort.
Belief is about faith. No learning required.
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Oh right, I see now, thanks for your valuable input.
No luck involved if Rossi had won the 2015 title by superior performances in an unusual number of wet or damp races, the prevailing conditions are the prevailing conditions.
However Jorge did prove to be the faster rider in the prevailing conditions over the whole 2015 season, and if Rossi is offended by that, tough.
You also imo have a point about the attribution of Rossi's tremendous success to "advantages".
However I see no middle ground in regard to Rossi fomenting feuds/falling out with every significant rival he has ever had with the exception of Loris capirossi, or his unprecented accusations of conspiracy at the end of 3015 which will quite likely blight the careers of 3 fellow multiple title winners going forward.
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Feuds are prevalent throughout GP history, I think Rossi's longevity has produced a list that is longer than other riders have.
He hasn't fallen out with Pedrosa as far as I know , and I did think he would have been a good teammate because Dani has a humble personality and is more inclined to let his riding do the talking.
Your welcome!
(I assume you are not resorting to sarcasm as there is of course "no need" for that[emoji1303])
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Actually, I'm just discrediting your ridiculous position.
A shame you have a lot of difficulty seeing how stupid your original post was about Lorenzo being "disrespectful" to Rossi, and thinking because Rossi said, IT MUST BE TRUE!
Sucks to be wrong, I know.
But there's no shame in being a man and admitting you were wrong.
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Ok you start, I'll check back tomorrow .
Nice straw man. I said every significant rival. The length of his career rather than excusing him proves my point.
Past rivalries such as that between Schwantz and Rainey didn't include either rider sponsoring media campaigns of denigration, the laying of curses and certainly not allegations of conspiracy when the other rider proved faster.
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Just one thing confuses me about Daniboy. He came onto the forum just as tps had been unveiled as the gift card bandit (quite handy as it suited tps to fade away from the embarrassment and taunts) and proceeded to spout the same stuff, is he one and the same, talps too? Since he's arrived tps posts less and less despite being prolific in his first week or so.
On his arrival he announced himself as a MotoGP fan first but that Pedrosa is his fave rider, although he doesn't like the grief Rossi gets compared to other riders.
For a Pedrosa fan, he barely mentions the little guy, instead he devotes almost all his posts to defending the indefensible that is Rossi and his hateful behaviour.
Come on Dani, I've no problem with you having your opinions, but it's not right to claim you're not what you are, an out and out Rossi boy. It's time you came out of that closet buddy...
On his arrival he announced himself as a MotoGP fan first but that Pedrosa is his fave rider, although he doesn't like the grief Rossi gets compared to other riders.
For a Pedrosa fan, he barely mentions the little guy, instead he devotes almost all his posts to defending the indefensible that is Rossi and his hateful behaviour.
Come on Dani, I've no problem with you having your opinions, but it's not right to claim you're not what you are, an out and out Rossi boy. It's time you came out of that closet buddy...
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Good catch.
BTW Papa bozo is talpa most likely. The horror of Valencia was too much for Talpa's mind to handle since he was boasting on here about a Rossi title before everything went down at Sepang. Complete worthless .....
Being a Rossi fan is now the love which dare not speak its name on this forum, perhaps.
I give him credit in general for arguing his position calmly, although I disagree with him significantly. I particularly don't agree with his attempts at arguing moral equivalence between Rossi and other riders, imo none have done anything like what Rossi has in fostering vilification by his fan base, to some extent including elements in the media, of fellow riders. I also disagree that he has the high moral ground as he implies in calling for the forum to move on from late season 2015; if Rossi himself had moved on as JL and MM seem to have done DB's case might be stronger, but Rossi hasn't retracted his narrative in the slightest, and the consequences linger including continued booing of riders on the podium, cheering of crashes, and Lorenzo being displaced from Yamaha.
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I found this quote much more interesting than the so called disrespect.
“The next two tracks, Phillip Island and Sepang, are among my favourites. It would be nice to stay ahead of him. In Valencia, however, anything could happen, in the past it been one of the worst tracks for me, even though last year I started on pole and finished second.”
Confirms what I suspected. Rossi was counting heavily on beating Lorenzo at two of his favoured tracks. When he couldn't he went into meltdown. I think at PI they even had to use the non heat treated tires, the ones Lorenzo hates. It must have really irked Rossi to be beaten by Lorenzo. But he didn't even blame it on "bad luck". Didn't simply say Lorenzo was the faster rider.
Blamed it on conspiracy. Interesting to see that Lorenzo doco and the mindset of Iannone going into and during the PI race. As Jumkie spotted first, Iannone was by far the more aggressive rider in a number of passes on Rossi compared to Marquez. Lorenzo even said thanks to Iannone after the race! Iannone says "see told you I would repay you!" Holy ...., glad that got captured, very interesting.
