A theoretical question on the Yamaha seat

michaelm said:

Does "nor would anyone" mean anyone who has ever been the team-mate of a champion? There have been rather a lot of such team-mates without celebration of a championship being cancelled for fear they might be disgruntled.

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Daniboy said:

Anyone being an all inclusive group.

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michaelm said:

In which case no championship could ever be celebrated because there is always only one winner. As I recall there were no calls for Valentino's 2009 championship not to be celebrated for fear of offending Jorge who ran a reasonably close second.

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Daniboy said:

I think my post has been completely misunderstood, just for clarity I was asked what would Vale think if last years celebration cancellation had happened to him, to which I replied that he wouldn't like it 'nor would anyone' which is obvious to me.

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Padron said:

Wow, I think you are spitting in the mouth that feeds you a little here. For if it wasn't for Rossi's presence, Motogp would arguably have less money around it, less need for write ups and fewer people reading those write ups, and the ones who would suffer would be the independents like you. Like it or not, Its substantially due to the yellow army, shelling out for event tickets, and keeping the TV numbers and website clicks reasonable enough to keep Phillip Morris, VAG, Movistar, Repsol, Monster, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda and so on interested at the level they are, I know there still would be a lot of interest without him, but substantially less.

I'm sure Lin will let you talk with Jorge Lorenzo, you seem to like him more from what I can gather on who you let say what on your site.

And your presence here on this forum, the place where there is a small cancerous obsession with spewing copious amounts of absurd, mostly insane rantings about Rossi, if this indeed is in fact David Emmett, is a little disturbing. I'm sure if Lin knew you hung around here you wouldn't get within 50 metres of the Yamaha Garage, and maybe a few more garages at that.

You could always turn your hand at romance novels if the yellow army annoy you so? For in essence you are saying you don't really write what you want to, whether it be subjective or factual, for fear of retribution, so fiction could be an option- seems to be the story of Journalism these days.

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#22 said:

What's the bet this is the same VR|46 Vanguard INA from Twitter that was spouting .... to Krop?

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Kropotkin said:

My money is on a chap called Wosi.

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michaelm said:

Not quite that particular hound-dog's prose style.

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Padron said:

Wow, I think you are spitting in the mouth that feeds you a little here. For if it wasn't for Rossi's presence, Motogp would arguably have less money around it, less need for write ups and fewer people reading those write ups, and the ones who would suffer would be the independents like you. Like it or not, Its substantially due to the yellow army, shelling out for event tickets, and keeping the TV numbers and website clicks reasonable enough to keep Phillip Morris, VAG, Movistar, Repsol, Monster, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda and so on interested at the level they are, I know there still would be a lot of interest without him, but substantially less.

While all of that may be true, you seem to think that this gives Ross carte blanche to do as he pleases without consequence, and his fans to spew their ........ .... without some kind of blowback. A true journalist will report the truth no matter the consequence, a true hack will massage the truth or flat out lie depending on his personal belief or money, or both. The hacks far outweigh the true journalist in all phases of journalism.

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Daniboy said:

I told it like I see it, that's all, no need for the yellow smoke reference or resorting to trying to make me look deluded. That seems to be the way of quite a few people on this board, if they can't win an argument the done thing is to say the other person is dumb, call their cognitive skills into question, accuse them of blindness, dismiss their opinions as 'funny' etc . Pretty poor way to conduct a discussion if you ask me.

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Cool Blue said:

I'm not trying to make you look deluded, I'm just pointing out your deluded thinking. It's not name calling, it's just an objective observation. And don't feel singled out, it's more common than you might think. [emoji6]


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MiddayGun said:

My thoughts (and I'm new here so quite feasibly no one will give damn) on Lorenzo leaving are that he may have felt the pressure inside the garage a little bit.
But I doubt that's the big motivator, Jorge has always done well under pressure, when he has had to fight back, it just motivates him more.

I think he's realised that to really cement himself as a great he needs to win a championship with a second manufacturer. That puts him straight into Rossi and Stoner territory a massive bonus being that if he succeeds where Rossi failed than so much the better.
As it stands, despite winning more championships than Stoner, he's generally rated lower because he's been with Yamaha the whole time, whereas Stoner tamed the Duc.

Lets face it he's been there and done it with Yamaha, if he can get a championship on the Ducati then so much the better.

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michaelm said:

Sure, if he wins a championship for Ducati it will make him an absolute legend.

I don't think that is why he is going though.

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aaronl said:

Hi, first post. Have looked on and off here for about 5 years.

I wanted to post that it seems like in the not to distant future, there will be a new measurement of ones success in modern motogp,

"but what did he do on the ducati?"

What Stoner did and what Rossi and everyone else failed to do since the return of Ducati.

Now we get to see what Lorenzo can accomplish.

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Kropotkin said:

As I know there are a fair few of you who are bulk consumers of tinfoil, I would like to float this past you.

Who do you think Dorna wants to see on the Yamaha seat alongside Rossi?

Do you think Dorna would interfere to put their preferred candidate on the bike?

Oh look, I've made a poll.

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clarkjw said:

Dorna cares about revenue. If Movistar were to threaten a departure w/o a spanish #2 rider, Carmelo would pressure Yamaha as best he could. But Yamaha are self interested, and wouldn't need any push.

As for tin foil...Rossi runs Dorna. When he leaves, MotoGP will adopt WSBK specs and consolidate the series one campaign over 20 races.

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