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I thought it was interesting that they mentioned MM likes the lowest amount of engine braking out of any of the Ducati riders opting to use the rear brake.

Kind of terrifying since that's Stoner or Doohan level stuff.

Good race overall. Glad they showed more of the midfield compared to yesterday's sprint.

Too bad Zarco couldn't hold position on the final lap since he really rode a hell of a race on the Honda. Hopefully the Honda continues to improve.

Bezzecchi with another torpedo effort on the first corner. Will be curious to see what he says about that one.

Ogura is definitely looking like the best rookie once again at a track he wasn't familiar with.

I think MM while having a couple of moments is pretty much f*cking with the field entirely. Pecco finished 6 seconds down on him. That's an eternity. Yeah eventually there will be closer racing between the two I would think, but Pecco's body language looks like .... IMO. Don't think this is going to be helping him mentally at all to know he can't get close over distance. I mean at least he is just riding his race instead of crashing out trying to play catch-up.
 
JPSLotus said:
I thought it was interesting that they mentioned MM likes the lowest amount of engine braking out of any of the Ducati riders opting to use the rear brake.

Kind of terrifying since that's Stoner or Doohan level stuff.

Good race overall. Glad they showed more of the midfield compared to yesterday's sprint.

Too bad Zarco couldn't hold position on the final lap since he really rode a hell of a race on the Honda. Hopefully the Honda continues to improve.

Bezzecchi with another torpedo effort on the first corner. Will be curious to see what he says about that one.

Ogura is definitely looking like the best rookie once again at a track he wasn't familiar with.

I think MM while having a couple of moments is pretty much f*cking with the field entirely. Pecco finished 6 seconds down on him. That's an eternity. Yeah eventually there will be closer racing between the two I would think, but Pecco's body language looks like .... IMO. Don't think this is going to be helping him mentally at all to know he can't get close over distance. I mean at least he is just riding his race instead of crashing out trying to play catch-up.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Alex joins him in the factory next season.
 
MichaelBolton said:
Pecco once again taking a disapproving look at his rear tire in the box. Looks like he always has problems with defective tires that end up going to him :rolleyes:
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He'll blame anything under the sun for his bad performances.

While the most successful rider to date on the Ducati, he has the worst possible teammate in the modern era. I can't imagine knowing you have to try and beat MM every weekend on this bike. Well and now his little brother.
 
MichaelBolton said:
Pecco once again taking a disapproving look at his rear tire in the box. Looks like he always has problems with defective tires that end up going to him :rolleyes:
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There is always something outside of his technical ability that gets in Pecco's way. What a coincidence.

It's a faulty tire, it's the setup that isn't perfect (and he has to get some parts from the old model to get the feeling back), it's the track that isn't the best for his riding style... Meanwhile, other Ducatis with less experience than him in the machinery are coming out ahead.

He needs to wake up. And fast.
 
MotoMundo said:
Pecco is the weakest two-time champion in MotoGP history.
He was fully empowered by riding the best bike on the grid, and not by technical ability. Sure, he's a good guy, a good rider. But he's not an extraordinary talent.
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JPSLotus said:
While the most successful rider to date on the Ducati, he has the worst possible teammate in the modern era. I can't imagine knowing you have to try and beat MM every weekend on this bike. Well and now his little brother.
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Another important point that could complement my initial comment and that goes hand in hand with your comment:

The current generation (especially Pecco and Martin) has not been tested against the great talents of the "past era".
We saw Lorenzo once comment to Martin: "With this bike I would be much faster than you" (or something like that).

Pedrosa recently made a wild card and got a podium on a KTM. In a full season and without injuries, he would be in good competition with this Ducati. Not to mention Valentino Rossi and Casey Stoner.

We are seeing Marc monopolizing pole, sprint, race, fastest lap and other records. VERY easily.
More performances like this will end up lowering even more the feeling that Pecco and Martin would be close to these extra-classes.

Maybe history will only summarize them as good riders on excellent equipment.
We will see.
 
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MM was playing that whole race...pass, instant .5 seconds

Trying to be a showman isnt really him imo.
 
Sennas_Caress said:
Can we already declare the winner of this year's championship?
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Nah. The championship is long. Pecco is a lazy-loader, he always began the year in lazy mode and grows up during the season. Add to this we started the year with the first 3 races being in circuits MM loves and always dominates or goes well. But it won't be like that the whole year. Pecco usually does a great secong part of the season. He isn't the most talented guy in the paddock but he's the highest IQ among riders and although it can take some time, he'll definitely close the gap and fight till the end. I nailed the last 3 world champions and I can assure you, nothing is done yet.

Save this post and hit me up by the end of the year.
 
mylexicon said:
His titles started as soon as ride height became the law of the land. He was the first to adapt to Ducati's strategies. He also managed to defend in 2023, despite the introduction of sprint races, which didn't suit his style. Martin eventually capitalized on his superior sprint performances in 2024.

Ride height and sprints are old hat now. The teams know how to adjust the bikes to situations and riding styles. Ducati dismantled their rider empire to get Marc, and they have obviously taken a step in his direction, and Alex is the indirect beneficiary.

Pecco is like Prost, only he is less outspoken to the press. We'll have to see where he stands at the end.
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That is possible, but Alex wouldn't have it on the '24.
I am seeing an underlining of just how good MM is rather than how weak Pecco is.
 
Marc had me on the edge of the seat with how hard he was pushing. Quite a bit of movement. Nobody can push and have both ends of the bike like he can though.
Somebody said it wouldn't be much help for Pecco looking at Marc's data.
True you'd think. It could be soul destroying as a team mate.
Maybe look at Alex's.
 
MichaelBolton said:
Bagnaia hinting that he may be back to a base GP24 spec for COTA (what Alex has now basically) because he's not finding the feeling he needs with the current iteration
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Interesting. When would we know if that's the case? And yes, he'd be in equal machinery as Alex, so he'd have to start beating Alex first. But after seeing Alex's brilliant performance today, Pecco might have a hard time even catching the little Marquez for 2nd, let alone Marc. Today he went backwards (4th), so probably dealing with his toughest mental challenge yet. He needs to get out of that hole very soon, or his chances to win the championship will be over. And if Marc wins, he'll clearly be seen as the #2 next season, which wouldn't help him. Interesting times. Ha ha.

Hey guys, who posted the video behind-the-scenes after the win in Thailand? Could you post the one for this race? :p It'd be awesome. Couldn't find it over MotoGP.com. Thank you.
 
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Interesting to hear on a pod that the last two seasons were ones where Pecco more or less copied Martin's set up for the Saturday, fine tuned it for the Sunday, while Marc is more or less not worth looking too much at since he is.... different gravy
 
Sennas_Caress said:
Interesting to hear on a pod that the last two seasons were ones where Pecco more or less copied Martin's set up for the Saturday, fine tuned it for the Sunday, while Marc is more or less not worth looking too much at since he is.... different gravy
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Yep, was common knowledge that Pecco improved in Sunday with his engineering team going through data and obtaining the best set up for Sunday. Good luck now Pecco, set up like Marc and you can't ride it.
 

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